Jesu - Conqueror ... Miles Away from Godflesh

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woah i just spent five minutes GISing "huge guitar" "giant guitar" and "big guitar" until i found an image i liked, only to realize after posting it that it was from an ILX thread and that KATE posted it in the first place.

― jambalaya backgammon (grady), Thursday, 18 January 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahaha

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 19 January 2007 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I am all and I am everywhere.

(Heh, heh, now I'm speaking like a Vorlon.)

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

"It's just giant slabs of BIG HEAVY GUITARS LIKE A BLACK HOLE OF DENSENESS (how does he get his guitars to sound SOOOOO BIG?!?!?)"

---> I read an article where he talks about POD recording! Weird. I would never have thought that he was using some (in my mind) cheesy Line 6 piece to get that. It's a great interview though and he goes into a fair amount of detail about his sound.

― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I am deeply pleased in that I'll be reviewing this for Plan B.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Also ... any thoughts on Final? Neurot Records says there may be a full-length later this year. And it's funny, I was at Amoeba (SF) yesterday and I found an old Final 7" from 1995. Two 7-8 minute tracks. It's mostly tones and drones. NICE!

― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, Final's great, I have two albums around here somewhere.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm really enjoying it. Sits nicely next to the second disc of Dronevil, but a bit darker.

― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesu are playing with Isis at Bimbo's in San Francisco sometime early April. Yesss!

so excited

― tk (tk), Friday, 19 January 2007 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I wanted to like this more!

But I still like it.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Saturday, 20 January 2007 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Six recent 'guitar' records that are infinitely better than Conqueror in every way:

1. KTL - s/t
2. Goliath Bird Eater - s/t
3. Aethenor - (long title)
4. Robedoor - Totem Hole
5. The Goslings - Grandeur of Hair
6. Mirag - Witch Queen Ascending

Doesn't anyone care about guitar tone anymore? Or does every just really miss June of 44 for some reason?

― Alan Shorter (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 20 January 2007 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link

To say nothing of the new Skullflower, of course...

― Alan Even Shorter (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 20 January 2007 09:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Doesn't anyone care about guitar tone anymore?

I do, and I rather like this one. And I like what I've heard of the Goslings in particular, so schtum.

Arrived yesterday, already listened to it twice blasting out of my stereo system. It is that great. More later.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 21 January 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I care excessively about guitar tone - which is why I like the Jesu album so much. And that's a really interesting article, thanks for posting it, Octigan. It makes me want to ignore the people who have been slagging off PODs and get one anyway.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Monday, 22 January 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll never get people slagging off particular pieces of equipment. it usually amounts to "THE PRESETS ARE SHIT," which they always are.

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Monday, 22 January 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Alan Even Shorter ...

Skullflower? Dude, yes. And the last two Sunroof! records. Matthew Bower is a fucking genius.

Also, I think that the tone of the Jesu record is good, for what it is. It's going for a specific sound, and I think that it does a good job.

But I would have to agree that Skullflower is absolutely fucking radical. I love the blatant psych influence.

― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Monday, 22 January 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

And everyone should hear The Goslings agreed.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 22 January 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

granted i've only heard the silver ep but where was all this praise when godflesh was around? silver sounds like dumbed-down godflesh and the cloying melodies are annoying.

― am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 04:23 (seventeen years ago) link

granted i've only heard the silver ep but where was all this praise when godflesh was around?

Check my AMG reviews dood. As they say. (I do agree that the large part of the appeal of Jesu is not that they're heavy shoegaze but Godflesh refined/redefined -- the lyrical refocus is key too.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll stfu until i've heard conqueror

― am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i've always praised godflesh. since streetcleaner! they were definitely one of my fave bands of the 90's.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Streetcleaner was the first thing for me as well. "BREED...LIKE RATS!" Etc.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 04:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i know people liked them (i loved them) but they never got too far beyond the earache/"industrial" scene or whatever

heads weren't ready

― am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i like the later stuff too. i like it all. i think other people praise them. grunge gets all the ink, but to me the great stuff from the early 90's was a ton of great death metal, godflesh, swans, eyehategod, masters of reality, jesus lizard...oh i could go on and on. i don't remember the mid-90's as well.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

in the mid-90's, i dunno what happened, things started to smell like the nine inch nails more. a corner was turned...

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 04:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i missed them live twice so i'm tempted to hit the d.c. show

― am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 04:57 (seventeen years ago) link

this kills:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=76vGiZS6zFY

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 05:21 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UqWiENMkdU

― am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 06:17 (seventeen years ago) link

So - is this pronounced "hey-zoo?" of "jay-zoo?"

― Blinky (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 27 January 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeez, you.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 27 January 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

I'm crazy peeved that they won't be at the Isis show tonight.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

this is so unbelievably good. i turned it up way to loud and the girl next door came over in a towel to tell me to turn it down. that experience alone makes it amazing.

― jonathan - stl, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 1 March 2007 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

So ... will they make the shows next week with Isis??

― Brad C., Thursday, 1 March 2007 02:05 (seventeen years ago) link

According to Isis' MySpace Jesu's with them next week.

Which sucks for me.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 1 March 2007 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Update from people who don't download leaks....this is RIDICULOUS. Can't wait to see 'em with ISIS next weekend, although honestly I'm looking forward to both Jesu and Torche way more than the main attration.

― call all destroyer, Monday, 5 March 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

still slightly disappointed "stanlow" isn't an OMD cover, but hey

but hang on! listen again to the first 16 seconds. that is more than coincidence. that's a fucking sample.

not sure how i didn't spot this sooner. still.

― grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude uses an Auto-Tune on his voice, right? It seems very obvious on 'Weightless...'. I'm not saying I mind, in fact it kind of works; just saying is all.

― myopic_void, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

A new interview courtesy of Brainwashed:

http://www.archive.org/download/brainwashed_eye_jesu/jesu-eye_070318.mov

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Sound for Jesu live was very, very bad. Just sayin', maybe it was the venue but Isis didn't seem to have any trouble.

― call all destroyer, Monday, 19 March 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel like I shouldn't like this album as most of the elements seem cheesy, but I keep listening to it. I think I really like it!

― n/a, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Give in. You'll be metal yet before you know it.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

It is not metal! It is the fatty Bedhead!

― vals tips for teens, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Baby steps, sir. We'll have him whistling Napalm Death ditties soon enough.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not the metalness, it's the keyboards, I think, that are the obstacle, and the vocals to some degree. But I have given in.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i keep meaning to buy a bedhead album. i've never heard bedhead! i am intrigued by the bed and the head.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

They're essentially stoner Joy Division. Kinda. They're good!

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes. Bedhead were very good. I'm completely boggled at "stoner Joy Division" (unless we're still talking about Jesu, in which case I'll let it pass without remark).

Anyway: Bedhead. Very nice. Like early Pinback, but less precious, more psychedelic. Coedine? Warmer than that. The What Fun Life Was album is particularly nice, not just a bunch of pretty, medicated drones either -- actual songs w/ memorable hooks. Kinda sing-songy, like sailors' lullabies. Drumming is super rudimentary, but it works, somehow. Other records are fine, but they were never again as great as this.

Downside: trad-indie. Sounds good in coffee shops. Exceedingly polite.

― Pye Poudre, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Beheaded pwns What Fun Life Was IMO.

Bedhead covered JD's Disorder - very well, I seem to recall.

― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

They went a bit country-fried though! Stick with their 1st LP Whatfunlifewas which, coincidentally has several great 3/4 songs on it (for that other thread there).

(Mr Seward: I finally got the Armageddon album thanks to your constant eulogising / Caldwell worship. I'm letting it sink in right now - it's quite different to the 1st Captain Beyond.)

― myopic_void, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

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