Whatever happened to Whit Stillman?

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I like him, though I suppose his pictures are too trendy for me.

What does this mean? You are put off them because you perceive them as "trendy"? You feel as though they are not meant for you because you are not trendy enough? What are you on about, man?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Both those things? Are they not compatible? Man.

the bellefox, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

It's not that they are incompatible. It is that they are both bizarre notions.

The first is snobbish and the second is insecure.

What it is about them that you think is trendy? The fact that they are spoken highly of by some on people on ILE?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, Whit Stillman's films were not really allied to any trend in filmmaking of the time - they were talky films about a social set that American cinema was largely embarrassed to depict. So they certainly weren't trendy in that sense.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Alba, I think the point of this is that he is too trendy for teh pinefox, who lives in the organic past of Raymond Williams and Raymond Douglas Davies.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

In fact, I found his original post so funny I almost excelsiored it.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, but it is just a persona. In fact, I think he knows who Reese Witherspoon is.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

stillman strikes me as deeply untrendy.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 February 2006 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Hi hon! Stillman strikes me as deeply PREPPY.

At some work thing he told me he used to come to London in the mid-70s just as punk was spunking, due to family friends, but he misspent his time with sockless jet trash at Tramp and Annabel's instead (as you do). I thought he was great.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 23 February 2006 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Stillman strikes me as deeply PREPPY.

was gonna say it's deep cuz it's in his blood since his grandfather invented the term "WASP." but turns out with quick search it was just his godfather. but still...

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Thursday, 23 February 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I dunno, scott, it doesn't seem so strange to me.

The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Sunday, 12 March 2006 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, Whit Stillman's films were not really allied to any trend in filmmaking of the time - they were talky films about a social set that American cinema was largely embarrassed to depict. So they certainly weren't trendy in that sense.
-- Alba (albab...), February 22nd, 2006 11:16 AM.

Totally OTM. He made a movie about society preps, about as far from "Sex, Lies, and Videotape" as imaginable. Adapting Jane Austen for NYC debs in the 70s, casting a redhead lead(!), a film about the "UHB" made on a shoestring budget.

The commentary (Stillman, Nichols, Eigeman, plus the editor) is highly recommended. Stillman mentions that his impetus was wanting to make a film set in the present where everyone were dressed formally like in the golden age of cinema (38-45) and the story extended from that thought.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, check out the IMDB for Carolyn Farina and Edward Clements (the two leads)... pretty amazing nothing really came out of this.

Stillman mentions Carolyn (and others) being typecast in her attempts to continue her career... She was a gal from Queens working a makeup counter from pretty modest background before Stillman's wife found her and brought her to Whit's attention. She "wore" a Manhattan accent for the film. Same with Clements (who had to hide his Canadian accent).

Even Taylor Nichols still gets typecast as a New York preppy, in the commentary he mentions he was born in Kentucky and raised in Michigan until he moved to New York in his mid-twenties.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link

none of the characters struck me as real New Yorkers

yes, Stillman's uncoolness was why people paid so much attention to Metropolitan (though, by Disco, he had become, or at least adopted/been adopted by, cool), but I have a feeling that teh pinefox meant that it has become trendy to like him.

At the time they came out, I was pleased by Metropolitan and then very disappointed by Barcelona, but the latter seems maybe the best in retrospect.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 13 March 2006 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link

friend of mine met him at a party in New York last week. He lives in Paris now, is uncomfortable with gushing, etc. *very* conservative in a bitching about Dan Rather sort of way.

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Monday, 13 March 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

last days of disco was rubbish.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 13 March 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

LDoD is highly underrated. Also, the revisionists have won.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 13 March 2006 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link

it is very, very underrated by me.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 13 March 2006 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link

last days was no good, i agree.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 13 March 2006 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link

{I have only seen it once, in the theater which was how many years ago? At any rate, you guys are wrong.}

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 13 March 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link

all or Rory and Logan's awful yale friends (and logan himself) on the Gilmore Girls strike me as Stillman homages/pisstakes.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 13 March 2006 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
with the criterion release, i took the opportunity to check out metropolitan again, as i do every like seven years or so... it really is a pretty awful movie, isn't it? one of those movies i always give another chance and yet always lets me down.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 5 May 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

How dare you not be elegant and rich.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 May 2006 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

WHO SAID I'M NOT

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 5 May 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i dig the first 20 minutes but i found myself compulsively losing interest afterwards. there's some good punchlines but the writing is generally not very good and some of the acting is TERRIBLE.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 5 May 2006 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

It's just a Wes Anderson film without the painfully hip soundtrack, you cruel man.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 May 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

it really is a pretty awful movie, isn't it?

no.

last days was no good, i agree.
-- s1ocki (slytus...), March 13th, 2006.

and no!

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

slocki, why you break heart?

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

it's my heart that = broken! i am not immune to WS's charms, i just wish his movies didn't suck so bad!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

the revisionists have won.
-- Steve Shasta (steveshast...), March 13th, 2006 3:35 PM. (Steve Shasta)

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

what did we win

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll tell you what i LOST, 99 minutes of my valuable time

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i wonder why anyone would wonder what happened to him? ridiculous chartacters, stilted acting, terrible dialogue (yes). The Last Days of Disco has some charming moments though ( the last scene).

reading (upthread) of him selling their new york appartment for $50,000 raised a laugh.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Confessions of a serial drifter .

He writes for the Guardian today, explaining what he's been up to.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 12 May 2006 09:03 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

"A screenplay I am working on," said Stillman, "is a college-girl comedy inspired by the Kate Beckinsale character in 'Last Days of Disco.' That character is the leader of a pack in a fictional college in Pennsylvania, a Susquehanna kind of area, not exactly Philadelphia. It will be squeaky- clean. PG-13. She is a gossip fanatic who reads the columns.

"She has a crisis and becomes very depressed, maybe one of her coterie becomes pregnant. Keep the baby is my motto. She is obsessed with the Tattle column, she is a regular reader of the Daily News

From the Philadelphia Daily News

Alba, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry - cut off the end of that quote:

and she ends up feeding important items to the Tattle column about the university president."

Alba, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Imagine him and Wes Anderson doing their version of Grindhouse.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Funnily enough, I think he and Tarantino have a fair bit in common, both having made flights of conversational fancy a hallmark of their work at a time when talkiness was unfashionable.

Alba, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Imagine him and Wes Anderson doing their version of Grindhouse

Awesome - someone get them a meeting.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 1 November 2007 10:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Imagine him and Wes Anderson doing their version of Grindhouse.

-- Ned Raggett, Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

lol!

s1ocki, Thursday, 1 November 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

[Spanish Woman: You can't say Americans are not more violent than other people.
Fred: No.
Spanish Woman: All those people killed in shootings in America?
Fred: Oh, shootings, yes. But that doesn't mean Americans are more violent than other people. We're just better shots.]

Am I ever going to get a chance to see this film?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 12:29 (sixteen years ago) link

See, I've already waited too long

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 12:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I was wrong to say, years ago, that Stillman was too trendy for me. Maybe it was just the fact that N. liked him so much that made me think that. Or maybe LDD had changed my perception of who liked him. In fact, I saw and loved Metropolitan way back when I was 16, so I shouldn't have had any qualms about continuing to love it - as I do.

N. was quite right to say that Stillman and Tarantino have things in common: the Lady & The Tramp discussion in LDD is probably the clearest example (I have seen) of this.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 12:33 (sixteen years ago) link

http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2267966,00.html

Jesus - this clown has got a whole book out of a 15-second throwaway speech in The Last Days of Disco! Even in the film it feels a bit tired.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link

In fact - book this clown.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 13:12 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Long interview. He's neither a Fourierist nor a Buckleyite.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Criterion Last Days of Disco

If you have a copy of the first-run DVD, ebay that shit NOW.

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Thursday, 21 May 2009 13:57 (fourteen years ago) link

NOW NOW MOVE SOLDIER!!!

s1ocki, Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link

u can watch this on hulu u know

just sayin, Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link

If you have a copy of the first-run DVD, ebay that shit NOW.

Woot!

Brandy Frotte and Reel De La St-Jean (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link


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