In Praise of.....Mind Bomb by The The

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haha "The Beat(en) Generation" is also kind of a dick.

Basically I am wondering why I listened to this album so much when I was 14.

HIS VAGINA IS MAKING HIM CRAVE SALAD. (HI DERE), Friday, 19 June 2009 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

A single 60-minute disc of The The's greatest songs would be peerless. I'm only putting the first two I mentioned from this album in it.

gosh I actually dig this shit (country matters), Friday, 19 June 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

And nothing pre-Infected because I haven't heard anything from that period that's done much for me.

gosh I actually dig this shit (country matters), Friday, 19 June 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

expect to hear the great man return later this year
- though not in the way you'd possibly expect/want.

mark e, Friday, 19 June 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

i was once in a pub beer garden taking it easy when i saw matt heading towards the bar.
my head raced with the idea i should go and say hello, but my shaking knees said not too given he doesn't come across as the most approachable person.
needless to say when my nerves were beaten into submission, the man had gone.

mark e, Friday, 19 June 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Jesus, that was hard.

1) GMB
2) ShrunkenMan
3) OOTB(ITF)
4) Dogs Of Lust
5) DecemberSunlight
6) Sweet Bird Of Truth
7) Slow Emotion Replay
8) August & September
9) VoidyNumbness
10) Lonely Planet

gosh I actually dig this shit (country matters), Friday, 19 June 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

trimming it down to 10, or making it up to 10 ?

mark e, Friday, 19 June 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link

lol the former obv

gosh I actually dig this shit (country matters), Friday, 19 June 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, there's an argument which states that BoilingPoint >> GMB, but I'm not making it here and now.

gosh I actually dig this shit (country matters), Friday, 19 June 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

(ps: I agree that Nakedself is much, much better than Mind Bomb, even if no single song is as great as "Good Morning, Beautiful".)

HIS VAGINA IS MAKING HIM CRAVE SALAD. (HI DERE), Friday, 19 June 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

guess which song is fitting my mood perfectly tonight

a used up cumrag who now plays NFL for the Bengals (acoleuthic), Monday, 16 November 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

and its brother....lust....

a used up cumrag who now plays NFL for the Bengals (acoleuthic), Monday, 16 November 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

my feelings towards matt johnson have been somewhat changed by the sequence of events described in the luke haines book.

piscesx, Monday, 16 November 2009 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Um, what sequence of events?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 02:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Haven’t read the book, but presumably the Johnson-kicking-the-Auteurs-off-a-support-slot and them calling each other grumpy pricks in the press kerfuffle that Haines milked for press back in 1993.

zing touch me I'm (sic), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 04:33 (fourteen years ago) link

i saw that tour.
the auteurs were fucking boring.
(and in recent times i have said as much to the cellist ..)

mark e, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 08:45 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

the "niggers of the world line" I'm sure is a Lennon reference, but mainly (as Alex says) an accusation that rich westerners contributing to charity for brown people far away (or rich western rockstars organising charity?) view the objects of their largesse with patronising or contemptuous eyes.
This is the _Heart Of Darkness_ argument all over again.

When you add "What makes us ashamed to be white?" to "niggers of the world", you do not get criticism of how the white people treat said brown people like niggers; you get criticism of how the white people aren't treating the niggers the way they should be treated. The patronizing contempt is inherent in the criticism and not at all addressed by the song.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, November 30, 2004 2:52 PM (7 years ago)

since our recent chat on the other thread re this point DJP it has been playing on my mind.
i too have always been uncomfortable re this lyric, and have no recollection if matt has ever been asked and responded to the use of the word.
so, via a connection, i have forwarded this point to see if he will answer, and se the record straight.

i suspect an all too typical wall of silence, but still, you never know ..

mark e, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

goddamn this album takes a dive after that first track

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link

but what a first track!

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link

My elder brother had this on tape so I used to listen to it. I cant remeber if I ever really liked it or not (I have a feeling I didnt) but 14 year old me thought that Jesus-CIA line was like so deep man.

Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Thursday, 17 October 2013 10:21 (ten years ago) link

I love his earnest philosophical wrangling.

Anyway, the music and playing is so great across the board on the The The records that I can handle the lyrical stumbles.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 October 2013 12:04 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Pretty nice write-up here: http://thequietus.com/articles/16952-the-the-mind-bomb-anniversary-review

When it came out, it certainly felt like a bit of a let-down compared to the previous two albums but it has certainly aged nicely what with the prophetic aspects and Johnny Marr's fantastic guitar.

I miss Matt.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 02:01 (nine years ago) link

I feel Matt peaked with the first version of "Uncertain Smile", so my fave album of his is Burning Blue Soul. I quite like "Gravitate To Me" though.

Paul, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 02:12 (nine years ago) link

xpost Wow, what an overheated, overwritten piece. Well-suited to the album, I suppose, which like most of his stuff is so musically sharp and on-point it offsets the OTT insanity of the vocals.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 02:42 (nine years ago) link

I've never heard this album, should I bother?

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

Opening track in search of an album. Rescreen Infected or straight to Dusk imo

imago, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

I don't get how one could dismiss the bulk of this so easily. I like Infected, and Dusk is my favorite, but most of this album is great.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link

Also, I know I've said it before, but this era of this band was so great live. Like, this is awesome, though I wish I could find the 1993 version:

htts://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6wa-qOb8eI

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6wa-qOb8eI

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

So finally got around to listening to this. My initial impression is that the first half of the album does more for me than the second half, and some of the lyrics made me wince more than a little.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 8 January 2015 01:43 (nine years ago) link

What, you don't like songs about being "all spurted out"?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 8 January 2015 03:13 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

Holy shit, I had no idea that Matt Johnson was getting back - or got? - together with Johnny Marr to make new music.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link

I am looking at the lyrics to "The Violence of Truth" again and really, it's amazing that I gave this dude any chances beyond this album because everything about that song is 100% horrorshow.

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 23 March 2017 19:48 (seven years ago) link

i never did get a response ..
sorry.

mark e, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link

ha I did wonder!

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link

imo DJP gave them more chances because he listened to Good Morning Beautiful again

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:46 (seven years ago) link

An idea which just came to mind. Somehow Johnny Marr seems to like to play guitar for singers who sing in a mannered style. And his guitar really fits well with them.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 23 March 2017 23:11 (seven years ago) link

Theer is a new film out, The Inertia Variations, and it includes a new song from him. And both film and song are good. I went to a screening where Matt Johnson did a Q&A afterwards, and there should be a bunch of stuff coming out soon. Not a lot of it is new The The songs, though.

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 March 2017 23:32 (seven years ago) link

The film is a documentary about Matt Johnson, I should mention :)

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 March 2017 23:32 (seven years ago) link

Thanks for the heads up, had no idea.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:03 (seven years ago) link

it has had five screenings in Sweden and one in Copenhagen

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Friday, 24 March 2017 02:15 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6831Y1EPoqM

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link

kept my 7" sealed .. so not heard this yet.

mark e, Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link

ok, thats very Dusk sounding.

love it.

now lets have an album.

mark e, Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

https://thevinylfactory.com/features/matt-johnson-the-the-interview/

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

The The touring the US this fall!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Is this the de facto The The thread? Because I'm seeing him live tomorrow :)

Frederik B, Thursday, 31 May 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link

There is also this cd/sd thread:
The The: C/D, S&D

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 1 June 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link


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