"Liking" music is so passé anyways. It's all about the indifference now.
― libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link
People who like obscure music are dumb and that's why I only listen to Steely Dan and The Eagles.
-- ian, Friday, April 11, 2008 4:44 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Well I only listen to ABBA!
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Nothing but Beatles for me.
Of course, I never have fewer than 4 albums playing simultaneously in the same room. I'm just THAT into them.
― libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
I find that while some people who like obscure stuff or have absurd amounts of knowledge often hold it over people, sometimes they are just stating their interests plainly with no subtext and it's the insecurities of the person who doesn't know as much that caused said person to perceive some sort of arrogance. Not always, but sometimes.
-- dan selzer, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:35 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
OTM
― Mister Craig, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
yes that can definitely be true
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Someone accused me of being a snob for saying that I liked a band's first album best.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
?? that's just random. what album?
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Obscureness is no longer a property inherent to the music itself, dudes. No, it's about how you listen to it. Anything can be obscure if you listen with an appropriately obscure attitude.
― libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link
My favorite Obscure record was the first, Gavin Bryar's The Sinking of the Titanic.
― dan selzer, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link
-- libcrypt, Friday, April 11, 2008 4:58 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
QFT; http://advancedtheory.blogspot.com/
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
-- dan selzer, Friday, April 11, 2008 9:01 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
^^^ totally the best LP on Obscure by a long-shot. The other one I like is the Bryars and John White LP "Machine Music."
― ian, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link
I have this
http://www.discogs.com/release/27671
― El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I only have Obscure numbers 1,2,3 and 10, and I have 6, Michael Nyman's Decay Music on CD. Had high hopes for that one as I really like Nyman, especially his punkier early stuff, but that one was a bit too "obscure" for me.
― dan selzer, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I think I've only met one person who fits this cooler-than-thou stereotype. He was roommates with an ex-girlfriend of mine, and he worked at the Univ. of Chicago radio station. She once happened to mention that she liked minimalism, and he said, "Like what?" -- when she said Glass and Reich, he rolled his eyes. Really couldn't deal with that dude. (Weirdly, he later showed up in illustrated form in a Jessica Abel comic book.)
― jaymc, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh wait, there was also the party I was at with Hstencil and a Pearl Jam song came on and I was like, "Isn't there something so great about hearing these early '90s songs, something kind of nostalgic?" -- and he glared at me and said "No." Haha!
― jaymc, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link
hahahahahaha.
so annoying!
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link
hstencil otm
― El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link
miss that dude
Pearl Jam is terrible
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link
It's no temple of the dog ;)
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link
"Oh wait, there was also the party I was at with Hstencil and a Pearl Jam song came on and I was like, "Isn't there something so great about hearing these early '90s songs, something kind of nostalgic?" -- and he glared at me and said "No." Haha!"
I can totally imagine saying this.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
suzymc
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, I don't even like Pearl Jam, but dude was just so humorless and condescending about it!
― jaymc, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link
That's because not listening to Pearl Jam is SERIOUS business.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
what was like a big hit by Pearl Jam? i wasn't zoned into that at the time...
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Wow, did Hstencil just win the Turner Prize or something?
― jaymc, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link
I should also note that it was like the second time I'd ever met him, so it seemed a little more douchey than it would've been if we were actually friends.
― jaymc, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Tuo-mounter
― Jordan, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link
"She once happened to mention that she liked minimalism, and he said, "Like what?" -- when she said Glass and Reich, he rolled his eyes."
This on the other hand is really pretty lame.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link
I would just like to say that hstencil was very nice the one time I met him which was something like 10 years ago
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link
why is everyone talking like something very tragic happened to him??
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link
He died of condescension.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link
I worked with hstencil for a while. We was tight; haven't talked to him in months though.
― ian, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link
I heard gygax! killed him
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link
it was a murder/suicide thing IIRC.
― ian, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link
and as irritatingly snobbish as hstencil could be about music, he was still right 95% of the time.
He's a LOCAL BLOGGER now
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Either way not liking Pearl Jam /= fetishing obscure music. It just means you don't like Pearl Jam.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link
i like the weird pearl jam songs, like BUGS.
― ian, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link
does this make me an obscurantist?
maybe, maybe not
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link
He could have disagreeing with the sentimental statement and not reflecting on Pearl Jam.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Well, what it meant was that he was the kind of guy who was comfortable making absolute statements of taste with people he barely knew, which I guess rubbed me the wrong way. (I mean, what if I was a big Pearl Jam fan?) But that's probably for another thread.
yeah there's no right or wrong, sure, nabisco, whatever you say. everything's "all good in the hood," yo.
-- hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:58 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link
― jaymc, Friday, 11 April 2008 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link
It sounds like this issue is mainly a problem at parties. The solution, therefor, would either be to not go to them or get so trashed that you're already more obnoxious than the obscurist. And, you know, everyone else...
― Mr. Odd, Friday, 11 April 2008 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Good tip.
― jaymc, Friday, 11 April 2008 22:03 (sixteen years ago) link
the people who the most attitude are the ones who think that if it isn't well known or they haven't heard it before, there must be a reason for that and that reason must be is the music is lame.
-- omar little, Friday, April 11, 2008 8:34 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
i really don't know about this
-- Surmounter, Friday, April 11, 2008 1:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link this type exists
― omar little, Friday, 11 April 2008 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link
This thread makes me smile.
I know a fair amount of people who think this is how I approach music, valuing the obscurity, but the real problem isn't that I like things that are obscure, it's that I'm cheap. When you hear me talking about that awesome Horslips album that I picked up (apparently not obscure in Ireland, but whatever), it's because it's two bucks. The reason that I look blankly when you're describing the latest Wilco album? The damn thing's at least $12 new. I only pay that much when I've seen a live band.
Also, something I like when talking about music is talking about it with people who are already familiar with it. I feel like obscurity often works against that, aside from specialized forums, since I feel like there's only so much you can say to someone who hasn't heard something before their eyes glaze over.
― I eat cannibals, Friday, 11 April 2008 22:19 (sixteen years ago) link
im pretty sure i can get u that new wilco for free if yr interested
― jhøshea, Friday, 11 April 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link
This was a nice by-product of starting to listen to the radio again, five years ago, after ignoring it for so long: I could have conversations with co-workers or friends about Jay-Z or whatever.
― jaymc, Friday, 11 April 2008 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link
"(I mean, what if I was a big Pearl Jam fan?)"
Uh so what?
― Alex in SF, Friday, 11 April 2008 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link