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The Southall baiting continues unabated!

― jim, Thursday, 10 May 2007 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

shut your blab and dance, you faggots

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 10 May 2007 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link

qed

― Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

you guys just don't like them cause theyre white!

― somuchsomuch24, Thursday, 10 May 2007 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh boy.

― jim, Thursday, 10 May 2007 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

It's not a house record, or even really a dance record. I mean, this stuff is explicitly designed for people who like the idea of dance music (cool bleepy noises, beats, erm that's it) without the reality (ie repetition, long build-ups, no song stuctures, tracks that last more than five minutes).

Taking it as a dance record is missing the point, this stuff has virtually no function outside being 'cool noise', which is all well and good as long as you think the noise in question is cool. I think I do, for now.

It's The Beat is rubbish though, worst thing on the album.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2007 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

i think the bad rap that "people who like everything" get is totally unfair.

― aaron d.g., Thursday, 10 May 2007 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, this stuff is explicitly designed for people who like the idea of dance music (cool bleepy noises, beats, erm that's it) without the reality (ie repetition, long build-ups, no song stuctures, tracks that last more than five minutes)

these people are fucking lame then!

i think the bad rap that "people who like everything" get is totally unfair.

i like everything, i mean i probably have the most varied taste of anyone on this thread, i just like everything to be what it is rather then a horrid indecisive messy hodgepodge.

― lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 22:55 (sixteen years ago) link

i probably have the most varied taste of anyone on this thread

Lex, meet 'self-awareness'.

Also, this ISN'T an indecisive hodgepodge. It knows EXACTLY what it wants to be. Just like electroclash did five years ago! And the people who are comparing it unfavourably to 2002-electro would have done exactly that if they'd been a) older and b) listening to dance music for years, in 2002.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

matt who else do you know who follows house/techno, r&b and teenpop as much as i try to??? and i pretty much like most other genres except the tiny irrelevant one of indie rock.

it's a mess, is what it is, and it sounds shit. shit music for shit people.

― lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Argh, that's terribly phrased. What I'm saying is that everyone I knew who was into house music from 1998-2001 absolutely slated electroclash and even early electrohouse for exactly the same reason this album is being slated.

Which is fine if you think it's shit, but comparing SMD unfavourably to electroclash is a bit silly.

(Alex there are more than four genres in the world)

― Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:04 (sixteen years ago) link

yes i know. i don't have time to actually pay attention to the others but i am open to every one of them. except ONE.

― lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Country?

― Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Folk?

― Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link

You're into metal, Lex?

― jim, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link

lol, xposts.

― jim, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Thrash metal?

― Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link

i like some folk!

metal = boys with guitars

― lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link

What jazz albums have you enjoyed this year Lex?

― everything, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link

What's your favourite Beethoven string quartet?

― jim, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link

i said i don't have time to follow every genre. i don't know much about jazz but i like the little i do know.

― lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link

can you all fuck off, actually?

― lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I should probably go to bed anyway. Goodnight, cowboy.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

you are so fucking delusional lex

― cutty, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:14 (sixteen years ago) link

well, you're a dumb cunt

― lex pretend, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't quite get why "Hustler" isn't considered proper dance music with perhaps some rough edges - but not really that rough. Would it sound so out of place mixed into your average house track???

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:15 (sixteen years ago) link

depends on your definition...

I'd be ambivalent about this stuff if I didn't live in a world where it is inescapable.

― Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:23 (sixteen years ago) link

though I'd still think it was crappy. I preferred when Kitsuné made stuff that sounded like Braxe/Falke.

― Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:23 (sixteen years ago) link

The thing is, that kind of stuff *is* still being made too (by the hipster house contingent), it's hardly either/or.

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Lex you're banned from my Wendy House. for three months.

Matt you knew me in 2001 (just about) and i liked house AND electroclash just fine. although you may not have realised because we were probably dancing to 'Stock Car Racing Is Magic' with you at the time.

it's far too much effort for me to actively dislike SMD (Justice too) but i'll still lament the judgement on distinctive bass as non vogue across the board (i moaned about this on the Rufige Kru/Goldie essential mix thread too). i'm sure SMD still sounds good on a big club system, probably more than The Field. it's still got punch. i do like how pronounced the 'BEAT' is in 'it's the beat' even if it's such played out 'ohhh weren't Technotronic fab' tomfoolery. it's poppy but maybe just too knowing/self-aware.

― blueski, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link

x-post I dunno, I really dislike "D.A.N.C.E." too, if that's what you mean? It is just so eager to please and has the much discussed "let's all jump up and down" feeling!

Mostly when I hear this stuff I get a gut reaction to turn off the stereo, the same way I would if Maximo Park or something comes on, just, the noise and structure of it.

There's no depth to it, and I don't mean that minimal house is the only music that gives this either. I am not in a very good place for happy music these days unfortunately.

― Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost to my "people who like everything get an unfair bad rap" post (yeah that was a long time ago, I got interrupted by dinner)

I'm referring more to people who don't necessarily "know" a lot about the music they listen to; the type of person who doesn't really read music criticism and such, but loves a relatively wide range of music. There's a view that's prevalent in music communities such as this that people should know all about the genres they listen to in order to properly love the music, which suggests that only a small portion of the population really loves music, and that's ridiculous to me. (Of course, for the people who are interested in the details and background of what they're listening to, that can certainly be a part of their enjoyment!)

― aaron d.g., Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link

also Matt's post above isn't quite fully accurate, a lot of the people in and around the electroclash scene in 2001 were techno or house producers.

x-post I'm sure they love music, I just think the dance albums that are marketed to this audience are often crap.

― Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd be ambivalent about this stuff if I didn't live in a world where it is inescapable.

is it so hard to escape? i manage to never, ever hear any of this stuff.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm just being defensive 'cause I'm a total dilettante. :P

― aaron d.g., Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link

what about their remix of peaches "downtown"??

that one sounds a lot like a braxe/falke track.

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Might be an age group thing, I know lot's of folk my age (early 20s) who are into this indie-dance thing and so it does make it quite inescapable for me. Not that I'm calling you a dinosaur!

xposts.

― jim, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost to Ronan: good points but "It is just so eager to please and has the much discussed "let's all jump up and down" feeling!" sounds like a good time, no?

xxpost to Steve: ideally this stuff gets mixed in with other styles that do have heavy and distinctive bass.

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Something like "Hustler" is much more of a proper dance record than something like LCD Soundsystem, where I think much of this criticism is valid.

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link

i am a dinosaur but i spend a high % of my life i discos frequented by people in their early 20s, and younger.

x post

― stirmonster, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link

is it so hard to escape? i manage to never, ever hear any of this stuff.

well, I avoid hearing it as much as possible but it's discussed practically daily on our club messageboard.

"It is just so eager to please and has the much discussed "let's all jump up and down" feeling!" sounds like a good time, no?

yeah but what's the fucking point!

― Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, I never hear it in the dancing. Just in other social situations it's thrust upon me.
xpost.

― jim, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:46 (sixteen years ago) link

ideally this stuff gets mixed in with other styles that do have heavy and distinctive bass.

let me know about some that stuff dude, sounds good. :)

i love 'D.A.N.C.E.' - more than anything else they've done maybe. i just hear it/see the vid and think 'this is cool fun electro-influenced pop music', different enough from . it needn't get more complicated than that...but sound wise the guitar lick reminds me of DP, the string stabs are neat, the vocals cute/annoying/cute. good if you liked Jackson in theory but wanted something more accessible. i'll probably not get to dance to it out somewhere even if i did want to tho.

― blueski, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:49 (sixteen years ago) link

ok. i tend to avoid social situations :-)

i think this music gets played in clubs lots (though not the ones i seem to frequent) partly because a lot of djs assume this is what everyone under 25 wants to hear when that is patently not the case.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:50 (sixteen years ago) link

"It is just so eager to please and has the much discussed "let's all jump up and down" feeling!" sounds like a good time, no?

yeah but what's the fucking point!

man you would've hated Happy Hardcore

― blueski, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:51 (sixteen years ago) link

is it not the case?

when people ask me to play css/hot chip/justice/simian/boys noize, a small part of me dies inside.

there isn't much left by now!

― Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link

x-post to stir

― Ronan, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link

i've never been asked to play css/justice/simian/boys noize ever. i do like and play the odd hot chip song though. if i'm asked for something i don't like i just pretend i've never heard of it which seems to confuse people enough to make them go away.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I like Hot Chip well enough, I just don't really play any of their stuff. People seem to absolutely LOVE them.

Normally I just say "I don't have it" if someone asks for something like that.

― Ronan, Friday, 11 May 2007 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

i like everything, i mean i probably have the most varied taste of anyone on this thread

Lex this really is the most ludicrous statement you've ever come out with.

― braveclub, Friday, 11 May 2007 00:13 (sixteen years ago) link

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