Bands/Artists whose imitators are better than they are

i still don't mind the strokes, but is there any truth to that rumor going around that their new alb is being produced by nigel godrich? haha, the mind boggles at how inconceivably bad that's gonna turn out!

And Pere Ubu were way better Captain Beefheart.

And Public Enemy (and lots of other rap acts, politically minded and otherwise) are better than the Last Poets or Gil Scott-Heron.

Eh? The Tubes better than Zappa? (jeri don't know me very well do she?)

And Pere Ubu were way better Captain Beefheart.

A closer call, but I'd still give it to Beefheart -- mainly because I wouldn't exactly peg Pere Ubu as strictly Beefheart imitators.

Dark yes, but metal, absolutely not.

Nirvana >>>>>>>> the Pixies or the Melvins or the Vaselines or whoever else they imitated

Refer to "This Charming Man" and its Motown shuffle. Now imagine it with nothing good about that combination (like Gene's "This is Not My Crime," f'r instance).

And the Auteurs (and London Suede) are better than the Smiths.

The Auteurs, ARGH! Pain!

I have no doubt about Lifter Puller being better than Pavement, though. But what's a good place to start?

Sublime are better than the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
P.O.D. are better than Korn.
Crazytown are better than the Chili Peppers OR Korn (but not Sublime.)

Everything being relative, I agree with this completely.

that totally trounced their minimalist asses in the song department

"The Model" has a melody and a beat, what more do you want? ;-)

I might take "I Got My Mind Set On You" over having tacks driven into my butt-cheeks.

How about somebody else's butt-cheeks?

*this may be a lie.

I should hear this Lifter Puller...

yeh i agree, i cringed on several occasions. some of you people are t-r-i-p-p-i-n-g..

I've already enraged several hilarious rockists to the point of incoherent internet fury (possibly) by suggesting that Electric Wizard do this to Sabbath. Now it's your turn for a spot of mild iconoclasm!

Wooden Shjips > Les Rallizes Denudes

I have this feeling occasionally about the self - titled Paramore vs. Blondie. I'll have to hear another album or two of new stuff though before I'd go around starting arguments with people about it though.

Wow I totally read this thread wrong. I was thinking about how over time The Musical Box became better at playing Genesis songs than Genesis ever was.

Aerosmith: Royal Trux

agree w/ this but then again I've never listened to aerosmith

listen to the "Get Your Wings" LP at once, it rules

Electric Wizard are a doom metal band from Dorset, England. The band formed in 1993 and have recorded seven full length albums, two of which are now considered to be genre landmarks: Come My Fanatics... and Dopethrone.[2][3] Electric Wizard's brand of doom metal incorporates stoner and sludge traits, with lyrics focusing on the occult, witchcraft, H.P. Lovecraft, horror films and cannabis.

Justin "Jus" Oborn is the lead vocalist, lead electric guitarist and lyricist of Electric Wizard, an influential doom metal/stoner metal band from Dorset, England.[1] Prior to forming Electric Wizard, Oborn was a member of the band Lord of Putrefaction, which changed its name to Thy Grief Eternal[2] and then to Eternal.

Justin was known as "Fuzz" by his friends at his primary school in Wimborne Minster.

imo this is always more interesting when the bands who do the "bettering" actually kind of epic-ly fail in their copy: see Miles Davis thinking he was playing music like Sly Stone or Jimi Hendrix on Bitches Brew, Led Zeppelin playing old blues songs, Magma wanting to play spiritual music a la Coltrane

I've already enraged several hilarious rockists to the point of incoherent internet fury (possibly) by suggesting that Electric Wizard do this to Sabbath. Now it's your turn for a spot of mild iconoclasm!

― imago, Thursday, April 17, 2014 2:16 PM

don't flatter yourself, you're just being roundly mocked as per usual

really does feel like ILM is entirely populated by jaded rock-critic canon-fodder [sic] sometimes

^delightful morbsian oh forget it

but yeah you're right, there's absolutely no way any sane adult could possibly commit the grievous aesthetic error of deeming Electric Wizard to be subjectively more enjoyable than Black Sabbath - it's impossible; such a person could not exist, and insanity is the only logical diagnosis

not heard electric wizard but their wikipedia page makes them sound like what the 'ukip and dragons' demographic (c) clive martin move onto once they graduate from biffy clyro

anyway, back to Dominique's interesting point...I'd say that black metal is a really fecund birthing-place for all sorts of incredible music that fundamentally & often wilfully misunderstands 'black metal' but is often far more thrilling (imo)

electric wizard are basically the movie 'the wicker man' if it was a band. no bad thing, srsly. they're not fkn coheed & cambria or such

I have no idea how imago jumped from "people are probably mocking you" to that sentence he italicised as though someone had actually said it.

Electric Wizard are alright, though.

Re: Favourite UK Bands by Gav in Other Bands & Artists

In no particular order:

Carcass, My Dying Bride, Paradise Lost, Therapy?, Anathema, Hell Is For Heroes, Godflesh, Biffy Clyro, The Wildhearts, Killing Joke, Terrorvision, Sikth, yourcodenameis:milo, The Horrors, Winnebago Deal, 80’s Matchbox, Electric Wizard, Fighting With Wire, Million Dead, Fudge Tunnel, Gallows, Oceansize, Send More Paramedics, Almighty, The Cult, Alter Of Plagues.

Posted on Tue, 1 June 2010 at 14:07

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#10FavouriteBands Electric Wizard, Sleep, Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix, Black Sabbath, Steak Number Eight, Maiden, Nine Inch Nails, Biffy Clyro.

a la lamp

Carcass v good
My Dying Bride p good
Paradise Lost idk
Therapy? idk
Anathema v v v good
Hell Is For Heroes idk
Godflesh v v v good
Biffy Clyro yeah ok they're abysmal
The Wildhearts you cannot kill my love
Killing Joke v good
Terrorvision idk
Sikth idk
yourcodenameis:milo awful
The Horrors p good sometimes
Winnebago Deal idk
80’s Matchbox idk
Electric Wizard v good
Fighting With Wire idk
Million Dead frank turner
Fudge Tunnel idk
Gallows idk
Oceansize you cannot kill my love
Send More Paramedics idk
Almighty idk
The Cult idk
Alter Of Plagues idk

Gav is not doing too badly here imo

electric wizard's brit church of england horror steez is q similar to uncle acid and the deadbeats, nowhere fucking near biffy clyro's lamentable jock insouciance

i'm allowed to say that coz i was in scotland just now and i liked it so i'm kinda part scottish rn

Electric Wizard are good! They obvioulsy love Black Sabbath too, but coming at it from a sludge-metal, post-Melvins angle? I actually got into them before I delved into Sabbath, tho in all honesty, listen to Sabbath more now.

re: black metal, imago -- I can only speak for myself, but black metal has been an entryway into metal that no other genre (including Sabbath/Electric Wizard doom, or Meshuggah style prog-thrash) has sparked for me. There is something about it that lends itself to so many other kinds of music, and the range of bands who influenced, play or were inspired by BM is really big! That Darkspace you recommended is great, and tho it is clearly BM in style, it's also something I've since recommended to friends who either aren't metal fans at all (but who love, say, Swans), and to metal loving friends who normally listen to stuff like Electric Wizard ;)