laurel drank a pomegranate martini last week! i saw it!
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Dan, you just don't get it: the tin sounds WARMER, more REAL.
xp: yes, and it was half-price!!
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, alright. Greyhounds, margaritas, screwdrivers and gin&juice don't implicate the trendy frufru drink label.
Neither should rye.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link
thank you barkeep!
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Gin and juice, you say? Like, say, LIMEADE?
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
bearded hipsters running vodka lemonade stands while playing acoustic guitars
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
sounds like a bad sitcom on the cw.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
I have a beard, I pickle beets (they're delicioso!), have never heard Fleet Foxes (sound like something I would hate, from what I've read), and I prefer wild turkey to rye (cue ZZ Top's Driving While Blind). I also drive a prius.
I do all of these things because they are new and hip and trendy and not because they're like fun or anything duh
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Bearded hipsters drinking gin and limeade while singing Pavement songs on a Brooklyn rooftop.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
beard also recent edition because before now I couldn't really grow one and I was home with my baby daughter for 7 weeks and thought "hey you know what fuck shaving". now I look like Captain Nemo.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
that sounds pathetically similar to my early 20s.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
That sounds pathetically similar to my er........July 6th.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
i think people just like the way it tastes.
Undoubtedly, but how do you explain its recent resurgence among the young urban demographic? A lot of people suddenly decided they liked the way it tastes?
Old-timey things like chamber music?
No, more like whatever Grandpa was into: thrift-store pants from Sears and Roebuck, smoking out of pipes, Tony Bennett LPs, etc. Unless you know hipsters that are into Hadyn and Mozart.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Undoubtedly, but how do you explain its recent resurgence among the young urban demographic?
it's recent? like i said, i've always known rye drinkers.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I went on a date once with a young Brooklyn type who dressed like an Amish man and was an up-and-coming shaped-note composer. That guy is seriously so far ahead of the curve he might be a genius.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, you just mentioned your dad. I don't go to places like the Violet Hour or anything, but I've gotten the sense that rye is becoming trendy, and I'm assuming that's why Paul mentioned it. For instance.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link
i still don't even know where the violet hour is but i'm imagining i must walk past it every day coming back from the train.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Seriously though in some ways we're making a mountain out of a molehill here (on ILX? surely you jest). Everything -- EVERYTHING -- gains and loses popularity as markets change and people's tastes cycle around until most people have forgotten about something and it seems fresh to them. I don't know if it's exciting, really, I think it's just...life.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link
oh fuck, i know where it is!
xpost.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
and now that i know it seems all the douchier to me.
It's where Mod used to be. There's no sign anymore, though: I think they want to make it like a speakeasy or something.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
The people making pickles and raising goats etc are actually more "normal" in terms of the history of the world than we are, getting our lowest-common-denominator processed foods off of store shelves. Depending on how big a lens you use, moving OFF the land is probably the more shocking trend.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
invididuals drinks it because it tastes good. groups drink it because its trendy. /sociology 101
― Granny Dainger, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
There's no sign anymore, though: I think they want to make it like a speakeasy or something.
yeah, thats where i was thinking it was. that boarded up door/speakeasy concept is fucking ridiculous. it's not like they're hiding anything considering there's always a cluster of people smoking on the sidewalk right in front of the place.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
I find the implication that people rejecting urban consumerism in various ways is in itself some kind of uber-trendy-urban-consumer-choice oddly paradoxical
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
all this thread has done is make me want to go out for a cocktail after work.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm going grocery shopping after work and making dinner in the house of a crazy hippie person who gets her all her food upstate and agitates for food policy reform.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Then we will go out for cocktails.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link
i want to go somewhere i've never been and order something complicated that i probably won't like anyway.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link
i want to make up some bullshit beardo trend and write a book about it and get paid
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link
oh goddamnit that's fucking brilliant.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link
get in line man
― dan m, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh sure, write a couple of half-decent message board posts and you think you're Bill Buford.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link
jesus has a new ride: beardos driving benzes 2002-2008
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link
i think i'll follow one around and write a field guide to beardos.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link
fffft. "half-decent," yeah right. also i think you mean david brooks?
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link
chicago kevin i am suing you for beardo infringement
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
how soon we forget "bedpunk", ILX
― Will M., Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
what they eat, their mating rituals, how they interact with each other, what their natural environment is, etc.
xpost go ahead and sue, nothing from nothing is easy.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Considering that I just finished Heat, no, I think I meant Bill Buford. I could have said "Malcolm Gladwell" but I actually kind of like him.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link
but Heat is about kitchen workers, and cooking and shit, not bullshit trends is what i meant
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link
xp But neither Buford nor Gladwell do the kind of broad trend-theorizing that Brooks does.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Buford is just good reportage on subcultures (food industry, soccer players, etc.); Gladwell is basically doing pop social psychology.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes, and books about kitchens were already a bullshit trend when it came out.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
look, I don't know if Bill Buford is in Fleet Foxes or has a beard or is an Uncle Tom or what, but I hope we can all get behind beets, pickled or otherwise, because they are awesome.
― Euler, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh well, never mind, next time I'll try to make my throw-away references more on point. I've actually never heard of David Brooks, probably because his kind of thing irritates me and I forgot it immediately.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm with jaymc here. but i haven't read gladwell or brooks because they seem ultra douchey.
xpost--we agree on david brooks! he is a total booger eater
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link
And obv. I meant to say "soccer fans," not "players."
― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I think Buford is kind of a booger eater, too, which is probably why he came to mind.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah he was really into Mario in that book, wasn't he?
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link