The Lysergic Acid Diethylamidiotic Joe Biden & Sarah Palin VP Presidential Debate thread in the 2 zero zero 8 (2008 party over oops)

lol:

K-Lo

An e-mail: "She failed to answer many of the questions. If a man gave this performance he would have been cruicified."

I think any curve grade — and I don't really think you had to grade on a curve to say she won — is granted because she is new to this, not because she's a chick.

CNN & CBS beg to differ: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/2/23101/4268/952/618411

MSM BIAS

stop lying about my record, Mr. Que

Don't know if anybody already mentioned this in the thread, but did she really equate Iran, North Korea and CUBA?

Well she equatored Akman, Kim Jong and the Castro Brothers, yes.

pronouncing Ahmed "Ackmed" is such a canonical orientalism

Pardon, the proper term is "Asian."

canonical orientalism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_the_West

Doesn't arbitrarily picking out Cuba to play pinch hitter in a manufactured axis of evil smack of Bush-style desperation and ill-considered inflammatory? It kinda stopped me dead in my tracks.

yeah that was pretty whaaaaaaaat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_the_West

― TOMBOT, Friday, October 3, 2008 3:53 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

especially since the question was about pakistan, right? she mentioned basically every country ever except pakistan in the "answer."

WE WILL NEVER NEGOTIATE WITH THE CASTRO BROTHERS!

the Castro Brothers is def the best takeaway from this

hey there you are
where you go

pronouncing Ahmed "Ackmed" is such a canonical orientalism i don't think it reads as wrong to anyone in the west.

― horseshoe, Thursday, October 2, 2008 10:29 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

People always used to pronounce the name of former NBA player Mahmoud Abdul Rauf with that "k" sound, too.

Halperin gives them both a B, with Palin graded on more of a curve, says it changes no fundamentals

Worst Hypothetical Rapper Names

> Vic, is there a way to explain to your Mom that most of what she said was incoherent babble? that she doesn't know what "attributed to" means, for instance?

Oh, my mom still assured me that "we're (dad + her) voting Democrats, i don't like what she says," but that "she looked good and spoke well." The superficial "looking good" thing kind of registers w/ her, unfortunately - though I tried to tell her how Palin was looking gross w/ all the over-winking. As my parents are Pennsylvanians I'm v concerned abt whatever they're thinking

ok now there's a guy behind chris matthews with a "SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION DESERVED AN AWARD" sign.

Sarah Palin: Clean and articulate!

ok now there's a guy behind chris matthews with a "SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION DESERVED AN AWARD" sign.

a guy rules and is otm

The Race, Status Quo Ante; For Palin, Late Night Jokes Could Cease

^^^ummm ... no @ halperin

blubbing becomes the story, no one will remember the rest of the debate. Dems win.

― caek, Friday, October 3, 2008 3:23 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

This is wrong, by the way.

It's not as if she answered any of the questions in any depth; she seemed primarily to give a one sentence answer and then launch into the pre-programmed response she's been prepping for the past two weeks.

This was most ugly and glaring when she was asked if lack of experience isn't her biggest failing, what her true Achilles heel was and she responded to the question by talking about how her Experience Matters. To be fair she produced a good strong speech there, really well written and delivered, but it didn't even come close to addressing the question! She heard "not experienced" and clicked play on the tape with a big ol' smile that read "ah, I know this one!" As an ex-theater major (god help me), that's the exact type of satisfaction I used to see on the faces of freshmen with a dash of talent who would just beam with the enjoyment of knowing all the words. Biden, on the other hand, heard the question and was really nimble about turning a positive to a negative in an eloquent turn of a phrase about how he had to learn not to accept Supreme Court Justices based solely on their competence.

The bar was so low that she cleared it easily; heaven save us from low expectations.

another dude with one that says:

"HEY PALIN:
I,L,TC TOO"

????????????

"I love tooting coke"

^new board suggestion

i heart MSNBC, god

THIS DEBATE WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT SO BORING FU

another dude with one that says "NIXON'S HEAD FOR PRESIDENT"

and this---> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7a/Futurama_nixons_head.png/180px-Futurama_nixons_head.png

"MY CHAIR IS STILL BROKEN"

is that an office space joke?

"TIRE SWINGS ARE NOT TOYS"

Results 1 - 10 of about 38 for "palin comparison to joe biden". (0.30 seconds)

my fav thing about the debate was when Joe Biden said "Bush"

You mean the repetition of "the same as Bush's"? It had a nice cadence.

ONE PRO-LIFE ACTIVIST SAYS
I’m back where I was a month ago. I wasn’t where Kathleen parker was but I was starting to waiver. My daughter made a “Sarah Rocks” sign that we have on the back of our minivan. I was starting to not feel so good about it. I’m back where I was a month ago. Sarah does, in fact, rocks.

rocks

your official media reaction: "Gov. Sarah Palin made it through the vice-presidential debate on Thursday without doing any obvious damage to the Republican presidential ticket. "

AOL polling:

Who won the debate?
Sarah Palin 47%
Joe Biden 46%
It was a draw 7%
Total Votes: 153,879

HAY GUYS DID JOE BIDEN BRING TIGHT GAME OR WUuuuutt

yeah he was awesome

sens. barack obama and joe biden make for a pretty formidable presidential ticket it's true

ban laol polls

i vote in lots of aol polls if that gives you any indication (netscape will rise again!)

lol chris matthews trying to find ONE mccain supporter outside in the crowd at 12am

this debate turned into a non-event thanks in great part to ifill, who let the participants (and particularly palin) get away with basically whatever they felt like getting away with. palin announced at the outset that she wasn't going to answer the questions, and ifill utterly capitulated. i'm just fucking aghast at the fact that this is possible. i know politicians will seek to avoid answering questions if it suits them, but for fuck's sake, i thought one of the minimal duties of a moderator is to at least put up some challenge, on behalf of the electorate, who after all, is supposed to become more informed via these debates. FFS at least have the decency to pretend like you will try to enforce the basic rules of the contest.

i'm sure it'll be mentioned that ifill was overcompensating for the "Age of Obama"-related conflict of interest charge, but sorry, that's not enough for me.

Biden was great tonight, btw.

wow, when it became clear that my drinking game rules weren't gonna fuck me up fast enough me and my buddy added "deregulation" "nukular" and "maverick" to the list of drink words. at the end there when palin and biden were both spouting off "maverick" every other sentence i was pounding away my beer so fast that i was just chugging straight foam, which of course resulted in the projectile vomiting of said foam (luckily i was quick enough to make it to the toilet).

I'm glad we have at least one person who can admit this debate gave them emesis

one of the strongest of Biden's lines which he treated like a throwaway is that mccain's position is behind the curve given recent bush-maliki talks (whether that's true or not it would stick if they say it, like, again.)
MCCAIN WANTS EVEN MORE WAR THAN BUSH hello

btw aol polls being that close just go to show that obama is gonna win big imo. this was probably mentioned upthread but cnn: 51% biden, 36% palin, the rest called it a draw. cbs: 46% biden, 21% palin, the rest called it a draw.