Duran Duran: Classic or Dud?

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Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:49 (twenty years ago) link

Dan, how in the world did you miss hearing about the cover of "911 Is a Joke"? It was one of the most mindboggling things I ever encountered when I first heard of that coming down the pike.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link

Are Duran Duran supposed to be the British Al-Queda in the "New Moon on Monday" video?

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link

I like this summation of the video I just stumbled across here:

Premise: The boys are apparently leading a revolution in a small European town. Their cause is aided by handing out flyers, an old woman using an Apple IIe computer, and Andy & Roger flying a kite. For no obvious reason a guy in face paint starts acting out something on a stage, and that shows up a couple times. By the end people have lit their torches and fireworks while police on horseback do just about nothing. The whole band coems together and begins jumping at the end.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

That could be like any of their videos, face it.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:59 (twenty years ago) link

Very much "out there", try to follow along. A woman in a bustier and not much else is being driven around London by a male chauffeur. She starts feeling herself up (not X-rated, though), while we cut to scenes of another woman in a big bedroom wearing what looks like an ultra-modern swimsuit. Both women pick up shards of mirrored glass simultaneously. The other woman changes into even more revealing clothing (if that's possible), then puts on an overcoat and leaves. The chauffeur gets to a parking garage, where the car woman and the coat woman meet up. The car woman takes the coat off the coat woman, and they start dancing together. But wait, it gets stranger still. Another chauffeur walks up, this time a young woman, and she takes off her hat and jacket - nothing on underneath, and proceeds to do a strange interpretive dance. Meanwhile our original male chauffeur apparently drives away.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

This page may yet be a certain kind of po-faced brilliance, actually.

Based out of the movie "Arena". The video begins showing a post-apocalyptic setting of school desks, with the few students breathing fire. For awhile we see a video screen (like the one in "The Reflex") showing Simon, Andy & John performing in individual shots, with a robotic sculpted head nearby observing the action. When the second verse arrives, the video changes to color, creature-humans appear, and Simon is now strapped to a windmill that churns through a pool. the creatures move around the video set, flying, dancing, crawling, tossing firey ropes and riding elevators. A white funnel moves through the set, while Simon falls off the windmill and is nearly killed by a pirhana-like creature. A photographer walks through a nearly-empty set, then we see Nick in a cage with lots of computers. Andy, strapped up in the air, fights off other creatures with his guitar, and Simon pulls some into the pirhana lake. John is strapped to the top of an upright car, forced to watch images of himself on the video screen. Roger is in an airborne chair, fighting off still more creatures. Simon, now on dry land, nearly takes a mysterious hand before the video ends with the creatures dancing, video clips of old Duran videos, the "Wild Boys" video and other tv clips, and ends with Dr. Duran Duran himself (from the movie "Barbarella") laughing (there are clips from "Barbarella" interspersed throughout the video).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, that description was fucking awesome.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, this MIGHT be the best:

The video takes place at the Eiffel Tower, and integrates footage from a chase scene in the James Bond film of the same name. It starts with Roger being transported from the front of a truck to the rear cabin, where he enters a chair and launches a spy camera (an image of a minicam that flies across the screen). Simon is on one level of the tower with a Walkman, John is looking through a telescope, Andy is a blindman with an accordian, and Nick is conducting a fashion shoot. Simon's Walkman allows him to blow up a helicopter and blimp (scenes taken from the film). Nick uses his camera for spying, and John uses a gun disguised as a gun to shoot down one of the flying cameras. Andy uses the accordian to kill off Nick (something goes off in Nick's ear, then his camera explodes). At the end, a woman comes up to Simon, asks who he is, and he replies "Bon, Simon Le Bon". Her tug on his arm causes him to enter a code in the Walkman to blow up the Eiffel Tower -- which leads to a shot of a postcard of the tower blowing up.

The phrase 'a gun disguised as a gun' is such beauty.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:27 (twenty years ago) link

MY GOD I MUST HEAR THIS COVER

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 20 June 2003 17:59 (twenty years ago) link

I am so surprised you have never heard this! I remember that MTV was even playing their video for this.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 20 June 2003 18:08 (twenty years ago) link

"911 is a Joke"
PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A COVER

It is...unfortunately. Its probably the worst cover ever made.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 20 June 2003 18:14 (twenty years ago) link

Custos, haven't you heard the rest of the Thank You album? It definitely proves that that is not the worst cover ever made.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 June 2003 18:26 (twenty years ago) link

Nope. Only heard an mp3 of "911"...it convinced me to NOT BOTHER looking for the album.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 20 June 2003 18:30 (twenty years ago) link

they're very cute boys and lovely in interviews, but I hate the overwhelming majority of songs I've heard of theirs. A classic band that makes dud albums. Songs I know I like by them: "Planet Earth," "Rio," "Hungry Like The Wolf," "Come Undone," "White Lines"

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:21 (twenty years ago) link

Nope. Only heard an mp3 of "911"...it convinced me to NOT BOTHER looking for the album.

Its the only album where I felt hurt and violated from having to heard.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:24 (twenty years ago) link

I never heard anything off it but the version of "White Lines," and that was BOSS.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:27 (twenty years ago) link

I was once mocked for following the Night Version of Planet Earth with Big Black's Racer-X on a mix tape.

Favorite DD album tracks: I know I've said elsewhere that Rio is great for it's non-singles, so search all of those.

Has anyone picked up the Singles 81-85 box, with replica sleeves of all the original artwork? It's a thing of immense beauty.

Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:50 (twenty years ago) link

I think I will, even though I just bought the remastered GH last month. Fucking bastards. I want to be Duran Duran even more than I want to be Takeshi Kaneshiro.

Millar (Millar), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:53 (twenty years ago) link

Whoa. That's actually incredible.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:02 (twenty years ago) link

I want the box set, but it's so expensive! I wish they'd release a b-sides CD, one single one with all the b-sides they've performed. That would make me very happy, but seeing as though the fan base has clamored for this for over ten years I'm not going to hold my breath.

It's a shame that people are completely ignoring Thank You. For one, yes, the cover of "White Lines" is lovely. It's a great crowd-pleaser at concerts! Secondly, I think the cover of "Watching the Detectives" is at least as good as the original (i.e. the Elvis Costello version). Third, I love what the band did with "The Chauffeur" with their original, "Drive By". Fourth, I do quite like the cover of "Thank You" and "Crystal Ship", because with those songs you can tell how into classic rock Simon really was and still is, going at least as far back as his first interviews (where he mentions how much he loves Led Zeppelin). Finally, I do like the cover of "Lay Lady Lay". Sure, the rest may be a bit confounding, but it's certainly unexpected and that is, from my perspective, quite good.

Kate, you mentioned the Lovely Blue Planet of There before -- I'm addicted to that site! I love reading horribly bad fan fiction, and you can't get much cringingly worse than the slashfic. Sometimes, though, some of the regular fanfic is quite nice. You know the Nikkolys series? I like that. Have you written fanfic before? If so, what are some of the ones I might know?

Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

I bought the Singles box yesterday used for $35. It's on Amazon.com for US customers for $37, no tax and free shipping...

It's fantastic! I might have to eat it!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 20 June 2003 21:52 (twenty years ago) link

It's fantastic! I might have to eat it!

That is the greatest album review in the history of mankind, what the fuck? I have literally sat here for 10 minutes laughing at this, and not just because I'm drunk, honestly.

Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 21 June 2003 05:23 (twenty years ago) link

This is the thread where I proclaim by undying love for "Hold Back The Rain" - not just my fave Duran song, but one of my fave songs ever.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 21 June 2003 05:37 (twenty years ago) link

(the one on the original US vinyl release, please)

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 21 June 2003 05:38 (twenty years ago) link

Again, I second Innocent Dreamer regarding Thank You - Watching The Detectives is great (I'm missing the credit part of the booklet so thanks for clearing up who did the original!), as is The Crystal Ship and Drive By is wonderful. I do not really like White Lines however, and I Wanna Take You Higher is awful.

On B-sides: the one B-side of theirs everyone should hear is Secret Oktober, found on Union Of The Snake and much better than anything on Seven And The Ragged Tiger.

Tijn, Saturday, 21 June 2003 07:43 (twenty years ago) link

"Thank you", Tijn! ;) Now all you need to do is get into Medazzaland! *giggle*

*spins around, falls to floor*

Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 22 June 2003 01:31 (twenty years ago) link

Dee - I haven't actually written anything for There, but several of my friends have - I think they write as Alizarine and the Paperbag Princess? (But their pennames may change from site to site.) I used to host a fan fict site that specialised in *good* slash and stuff called Entertain Me! but it got shut down cause I couldn't pay the bills. :-(

kate (kate), Monday, 23 June 2003 07:16 (twenty years ago) link

So classic it hurts.

Zora (Zora), Monday, 23 June 2003 20:05 (twenty years ago) link

Duran Duran reaffirms women might have better taste then men in general. If you're gonna be into mindless prog frippery, the makers might as well be cute.

God, if you're listening, I want to look like Simon LeBon for just one day, please, please, please...

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 20:12 (twenty years ago) link

scratch that. John Taylor. And scratch that John Taylor while you're at it.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 20:14 (twenty years ago) link

ow!

John Taylor (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 23 June 2003 20:48 (twenty years ago) link

Simon le Bon as he looks NOW?! No thanks!

Only real spunk in Duranduran lookslwise was Roger Taylor.

John Taylor was the first male heartthrob of every lesbian I know. Work that out for yourself.

russ t, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:03 (twenty years ago) link

omigodomigodomigodomigodomigodomigod... people here like Duran Duran! All the years I spent being ridiculed and abused because people just didn't GET IT. God. I was at the music exchange in notting hell on Saturday and could not believe how much the Duran stuff was going for... although it's cheaper than Record Runner, that's for sure. And then I got home with my long-lost love, "To the Shore," since the first album has been standardised to the American version, and I play it for Mr Snide Indie Guy and he just doesn't GET IT.

In defense of Thank You, however, it should be noted that Elvis Costell and Lou Reed both love Duran's cover versions. I think it the artist likes your cover, then everyone else can fuck off.

Oh, and between Arcadia and Power Station, I vote Arcadia. It was Nick Rhodes in the "Election Day" video that propelled my 12-year-old-self to the chemist's for black hair dye for the very first time. But, erm, in terms of musical purity, Power Station wins. Bernard Edwards making JT play until his fingers bleed beats backing vocals from Sting and Grace Jones any day.

Catty (Catty), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:15 (twenty years ago) link

Cat, do you HAVE the proper version of the first album?

GIMME GIMME GIMMEEEEE!!!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:19 (twenty years ago) link

I had it on cassette, but when I switched formats the first album has British artwork with the U.S. tracklisting. ARGH!
*But* I just got the U.S. single where they released "To the Shore" as a B-side, so I can copy the whole album and plunk TTS in where Yo Bad Azizi is, and that will make it propa.

Catty (Catty), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:28 (twenty years ago) link

What I really want is the *original* mix of Planet Earth that was on the *original* (import?) version of the first album. Cause not only was the sequence difference (Girls On Film first? WTF? just destroy the flow of that album why dontcha?) and Yo Bad Azizi not belonging in there AT ALL stylisticly or otherwise, but they butchered the beginning of Planet Earth and cut the long space-noises beginning off of it! It's all about Nick Rhodes' spacenoises!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

Catty...

NOTHING beats Grace Jones adding vocals to anything, surely?

russ t, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:34 (twenty years ago) link

Kate, have you heard Strange Behaviour? MMM, Nick Rhodes Spacy Noises deluxe....

Russ T... sorry. I think Bernard Edwards and his funkaliciousness throughout the Power Station LP (and his profound influence on JT) must top Grace Jones on "Election Day."

Catty (Catty), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:43 (twenty years ago) link

Yet another thing to be fuxored off about cockfarmers wot don't return my emails any more. Oh well, they probably made the whole Nick Rhodes story up anyway. :-(

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:47 (twenty years ago) link

I have ordered that there box set. I could not resist.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

That box set is lovely. I have enjoyed it v. much since I got it. Particularly Late Bar. La la la late baaaaar, la la la la la la....

The reproductions look a little dodgy, but maybe that's just me since I work with graphic design all day? Besides, it's not like Assorted iMaGeS could have sent over their .pdfs, now, is it?

Assorted iMaGeS. The true believers know.

Catty (Catty), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

Malcolm Garrett vs. Peter Saville FITE (me, I couldn't choose).

The two of them vs. the Designers Republic = utterly impossible to determine. Argh...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 14:24 (twenty years ago) link

in theory i hated them: hated new romantics, hated the videos, hated all that 80's glamourpuss aspiration and thatcherish air - so i never heard much apart from the singles

in practice i taped careless memories, save a prayer, the chauffeur, & a track called 'whispers' (which i cannot recall the sound of at the moment)

i also like ordinary world, view to a kill & skin trade and wish i had them too

dis-association of the sound from everything else about them is key - a purer/simpler/better way of listening, or a thinner/ fragmented/simpleton way.....
ilm may help me decide one day

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

Kate, I've got the original version of the first album with the "space noise enhanced" version of "Planet Earth". It's in the pile of stuff to be digitized.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 17:41 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
...and my copy of that singles box set finally arrived today. Oh dear heavens does this look brilliant.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 July 2003 02:59 (twenty years ago) link

SEARCH: "Faith in the Colour", the B-Side to "Is There Something I Should Know?"

That singles box is awesome.

Evan (Evan), Saturday, 12 July 2003 13:43 (twenty years ago) link

Evan, "Faith in this Colour" is like one of my top five favorite songs of all time. I adore adore adore ADORE it to bloody pieces. If I could find the MP3 of the slow version of said song, the one that chugs along at half the pace of the original, I would die and go to MP3 heaven.

Also on the b-side search: The full, five-minute version of Arcadia's "Rose Arcana". I sigh a million happy sighs when I listen to that lush arrangement. Yum.

Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 13 July 2003 01:43 (twenty years ago) link

AND NOW I'M LISTENING TO SIMON LEBON'S "GREY LADY OF THE SEA"!!!!!! MP3, BABY!!!!!!!

This is a very happy day in Deannaville.

Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 13 July 2003 02:05 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
Taking a quick peek in and reviving this thread only to post something I'd previously stated back in March of 2000, after being inspired by a thread off ILE to reread old e-mail messages. This would be in regards to the album I harp on about so frequently, Medazzaland.

*quietly hopes no one recognizes this bit*

"Medazzaland" is my very favorite album. The title track thrills me to the bone as I'm madly obsessed with Nick Rhodes. "Big Bang Generation" is a rollicking good-time track. "Electric Barbarella" is a great song with a horrible video (IMO). "Out of My Mind"...well, it's a beautiful track to say the least...the righteous heir to the "Save a Prayer" throne if the universe was fair. "WDYTYA?"...well, I only *quote* from it in my sig! "Silva Halo"...I must be one of a few people who love this track. "Be My Icon" is a thrillingly cheeky track. "So Long Suicide" is the ultimate highlight for me...I think it's incredibly awesome. "Buried in the Sand" is sweetly tragic in its plaintiveness. "Undergoing Treatment" is simply brilliant, another exceptionally cheeky track. I *think* I named every track on the album but if not...well, I love them all!

(Oh yeah, and "WDYTYA?" = "Who Do You Think You Are?" Just FYI.)

Just wanted to post that up so that you can see, through something I wrote over three years ago, why Medazzaland remains my favorite album of theirs.

p.s.: Kate, if you're reading this, I know who you're talking about re: Alizarine!! Isn't she the woman who theorized that Nick came from the same lovely little planet David Bowie comes from? If that's the case, OMG, her website is totally hilarious! And I do remember Entertain Me! You guys had the BEST slashfic around. I miss that place, in fact.

*drops off to sleepland*

Legendary Nothingness (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 06:03 (twenty years ago) link


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