nick sylvester = maker upper

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can we at least delete this comma dude's posts.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 2 March 2006 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Or start talking about Cat Power too or something.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 00:06 (eighteen years ago) link

This might be controversial, but I find Cat Power to be a very attractive woman.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 2 March 2006 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link

ethics, by mr. tom smith

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 March 2006 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link

This omission - in and of itself not a David Irving-level falsehood - was crucial for the advancement of Syl's syllogism, his poisoned well, his inherently flawed argument.

Nick, you're a sniveling little cunt.

Granted, your piece didn't inflict harm on anyone (least of all TLASILA - we received free press, etc.), and your assertions, while arguably snarky and insipid, were scarcely libelous.

I'm pissed because you appealed to our better nature, then fucked us for an idiotic punchline. You can't get much lower.

,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm annoyed, as someone familiar with cocky/funny and Neil Strauss, that New Yorkers are ruining it before I even get there.

WillS, Thursday, 2 March 2006 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link

i knew something was wrong when i read a voice article i enjoyed

noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 2 March 2006 00:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I read this on the subway last night, and kinda figured that it was just Nick being Nick, which is fine by me, but clearly is not something that translates to actual journalism.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Next you'll tell me there is no such phenomenon as ripsterism?!!

http://www.villagevoice.com/nyclife/0602,sylvester,71589,15.html

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i enjoyed half this article on the subway this morning, then promptly threw it away when I got to work. Later in the day I went to the site to find the rest and couldn't find it there..

if Sylvester goes down, then the illustrator should too:

http://images.villagevoice.com/issues/0609/sylvester2.jpg

http://www.marcoschin.com/img/lavalife/2002_dogwalk.jpg

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

there's no such thing as the South Bitch Diet?

imbidimts, Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link

those illustrations are great! esp. since they're on the subway! i mean, what better place to see idealized cartoon twenty-somethings cavorting in love on a billboard just above, say, a man who smells of his own urine? i love new york!!!!!

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:15 (eighteen years ago) link

midi, both those pieces are illustrated by the same guy.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

two-timer

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:19 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost i think he knows that, hence "illustrator" singular.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Just to clarify, I linked that "ripster" thing (which I hated as much as I like Nick's 'Fork writing, but that's irrelevant) to illustrate that Sylvester obviously is/was the Voice's go-to po-mo satirist; the only ludicrous part of the whole saga is that someone decided his was cover story material - thus subjecting it to a completely unwarranted level of expectations and scrutiny. I mean, FFS, did anybody expect Nick to double-source his facts and log his Factiva searches when his stuff ran in the Choices' "Essay" section?

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Now watch the dude become the anti-Adam Penenberg, a poster boy for why bloggerization of the press is an awful, standard-lowering thing. Sad.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

interesting how nick sylvester gets fired for making up stuff but people like kenny goldsmith ["kenny g" to the wfmu-familiar] have entire magazines devoted to his con artist antics.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:23 (eighteen years ago) link

that doesn't explain the viral marketing piece's complete misattributions, tho. those industry-specific columns usually carry the veneer of, y'know, actual research (at least when douglas wolk writes 'em they seem credible).

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:23 (eighteen years ago) link

that last post was to joseph cotten but it could stand in as a response to maria, too.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe we'll get a "Saturday Night Fever" out of this.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't read the viral marketing piece... The ripster essay was a transparent joke (fake diary entries, etc) and scanned as a parody of a New York mag-style trend piece.
x-post

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, Douglas Wolk is a journalist, whereas Nick Sylvester is a humorist who ended up working at a newspaper.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:27 (eighteen years ago) link

so I guess the only silver lining here would be some updates on his dormant Riff Central?

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link

"I didn't read the viral marketing piece"

i'm not sure anyone did

noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I heard he was suffering Post Tramatic Stress Disorder from an iPod War.

A. Poster, Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:31 (eighteen years ago) link

WINNER!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link

you are given an assignment for the cover of a major newspaper that involves reporting = you learn to be a reporter real quick or you turn it down

ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link

No argument there!

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:34 (eighteen years ago) link

HARMONY

gear (gear), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Side by side on my piano

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link

At least he didn't lie about pizza.

My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I think we're all missing the most pertinent question this story throws up: will this The Game book actually help me get laid more often?

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:40 (eighteen years ago) link

no but it might get you booted in the cack

gear (gear), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link

What are you, Cliff Clavin?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link

cack

\Cack\, v. i. [OE. cakken, fr. L. cacare; akin to Gr. ??????, and to OIr. cacc dung; cf. AS. cac.] To ease the body by stool; to go to stool. --Pope.

gear (gear), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:49 (eighteen years ago) link

the context was perhaps a bit off

gear (gear), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:50 (eighteen years ago) link

that TLASILA email exchange is ridiculous

lil' flipper (eman), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:50 (eighteen years ago) link

"perhaps the village voice will be cacked by this experience"

gear (gear), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:50 (eighteen years ago) link

http://villagevoice.com/news/0610,news,72372,2.html

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link

oooh.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Awwwkwaaaaaard

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Here we go.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link

ohboy (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Does this mean we don't have to wish him the best anymore?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link

the word "reported" makes that statement of apology particularly painful.

Autonomous University of Zacatecas (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link

aaaaand....scene

gear (gear), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:12 (eighteen years ago) link

This thread has been abandoned by everyone except vultures.

ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:12 (eighteen years ago) link

The City's New Gay Saturday Bash

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't rilly get how a writer for, despite its aimlessness and paralysis, still the premiere alt newspaper in the nation could think he could get away with this in the age of Jayson Blair and james Frey. Don't know the guy, find the few things i have written smug, don't bear him ill will…but I don't get it. Hamron called it correct.

veronica moser (veronica moser), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:15 (eighteen years ago) link


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