C/D: Prince's "Around the World in a Day"

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xpost to Matos:

Again, I was responding to Alfred Soto talking about the Beatles.

And, again, I was only making a little joke that occured to me. ("Little" = "Microscopic") I have never heard Lennon/McCartney much in Prince's psychedelia, more like Love and Sly and Beach Boys. But hey I could be wrong, what the fuck.

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

there's all of those for sure, but the Beatles are certainly in there too. anyone who's listened to classic rock radio (specifically KQRS in Mpls, which Prince listened to as a kid when it was a progressive station) knows it favors the Beatles to Love and the Beach Boys.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

well, yeah, that's true. and I'm not saying he never heard the Beatles. what I AM saying is that I never hear the specific influence of them all that much in Prince songs.

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link

oh, it's there all right

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

well okay then, you're the expert

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

dude, read the Per Nilsen book--Wendy and Lisa and Alan Leeds talk about it very specifically

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link

YEAH MATT

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I kind of can't see how there isn't a heavy Lennon influence on the song "Paisley Park"; in fact, that's one of the main things that makes it so awesome.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link

i still think this album felt pretty ubiquitous when it came out, despite lack of Purple Rain-ian megahit flurry, but maybe that's just cuz I was playing it a ton. and yeah, DB otm upthread when he talks about all the other extended family things coming out at the time. like Sheila E.'s Romance 1600 came out around the same time, and it felt like an extension of this album's aesthetic; "A Love Bizarre" would have fit right in on atwiad

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I like this album, tho yeah I usually skip Condition of the Heart and find America's lyrics to be soooo silly (but what an otherwise great song!). Unjustly maligned, this one is.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

"Condition Of The Heart" is maybe in the top 25 of Prince songs.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Purple Rain : Pet Sounds :: Around the World in a Day : Smiley Smile

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

shit, matos, if I had time to read books I wouldn't be screwing around here!

and Stormy OTM about Sheila E and that's not just a reacharound

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

(That arpeggio up through a major seventh at the beginning of each verse of "COTH" = BRILLIANCE)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not as big a fan of Jamie Starr Inc. '85 as I am of '84, by a lot, but that's really a matter of degree. So is my dislike for Around the World, which isn't a terrible album by any means, but a really uneven and notably uninspired one--he's clearly reaching for what came to fruition on Parade and isn't quite there yet, whereas Parade has it ALL there.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

The only song I don't particularly like on Around The World In A Day is the title track.. but only in today's context, because it seems like a foreshadowing of Lovesexy, or the overall feel of that album, which to me symbolizes the beginning of Prince's big dip into the era of bland NPG sherbert, creatively speaking.

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I remember liking the title track's melody okay

xpost

yeah it's a mess, totally thrown off, bits of it careless, not as masterful as Parade, we know we know

you are no fun at all matos. you sound like someone complaining about bad head.

― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link

though I think in the long run we're all basically in agreement, you're just being a hardass

this album came out nine months after Rain, it was like an extra, it happened so fast it didn't even feel like a followup, just a promise that he wasn't going to let the fame get to him. and the fact that it was so tossed off, personal and fans-only was a straight up relief. judging it so harshly seems like a real ROCK CRITIC thing to do, when I know you're a total hardcore fan

― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

yep, you nailed me there (cough) (xpost)

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

parade is awful. im sayin it. ATWIAD is very inconsistent, but has some pretty great shit on it. raspberry beret, pop life, paisley park, tambourine, the ladder, condition of the heart, title track - all really great. parade is thin, flat, and the melodies are boring. nowhere near the sonic or melodic quality of SOTT, or the earlier stuff. i mean, ok. "kiss" is a good song. but i could never get into any other songs on that whole album. so ill take half-baked over a-bad-recipe-cooked-twice.

― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:08 (nineteen years ago) link

wait a second, I'm not supposed to be judgmental about musicians I like? sorry, not swallowing that one at all.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

you are no fun at all matos. you sound like someone complaining about bad head.
.....

though I think in the long run we're all basically in agreement, you're just being a hardass

Heavens, Milton! You know A LOT more about Matos than me, I guess. ;-)

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry, not swallowing that one at all.

-- Matos-Webster Dictionary (michaelangelomato...), March 1st, 2005.

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll second that - Parade has its moments (Mountain, Kiss, Christopher Tracy's Parade) but it seems kinda limpid to me. I've never really been grabbed by it. ATWIAD, on the other hand, always keeps my interest, even when its being completely fucking ridiculous.

(no one likes my Beach Boys analogy = U ALL R GAY! *choke* sob)

x-post

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link

parade is awful.

PUT THE CRACK-PIPE DOWN

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link

oh ill put it down all right. put it down FOREVER.

― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Stop acting like a hard luscious ass, Dan. It's someone just gave you a horrible nibbly blow job..

*ahem*

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Boy, did I start a shitstorm! I'm pretty much with Matos on this one (which was I asked him to rally to my defense last night).

Just for that, Matos, I'm going to not only buy, but READ your book.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link

yay! someone has to etc. (I kid)

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sorry.
I'll be good.
This time I promise,
Love is more important than sex.
Now I understand.
I have 2 go now.
I don't know when I'll return.
Good-bye

I wish Ludacris or somebody would end an album like this (though Eminem has a similar meta-hell capper to HIS Around The World In A Day

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link

doesn't The Love Below count?

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link

tried to find & post a copy of the shower poster from controversy, just to gay up the thread a little more, then my head cleared

this thread's high school all over again but friendly

― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link

someone's got that poster taped in the window of their front outside at 24th and Mission. always makes me smile on my way home.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I gave that poster to a cousin of mine for her birthday when we were kids. she had it up in her room forever.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link

"front" = front door oops

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link

doesn't The Love Below count?

sorta (and part of the reason I love it is its like sloppy Prince demos) but Andre's just dryly telling his tale at the end, not imagining divine retribution for his sins (in fact, God grants him another shot at a girl with a nice butt earlier on the album). 50 Cent shrieking "OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE!!! *satan laughing*" at the end of an album would be more in sync.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

My upcoming Stylus article will use the dialogue from this song as the purest example of what Rockism is, so dibs on it you biting bastards

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Prince doesn't believe in God: he believes in Linn drums.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I wish!

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link

word, we might have avoided The 808 Children

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Prince's last album: "Musicology"
Prince's next album: "Rockism"

A natural progression.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I heard his next album was gonna be for Blue Note! (which I'm sort of intrigued as hell by, actually)

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

(and yes, I have heard--and dislike--The Rainbow Children, so maybe my faith is misplaced here, if indeed it's faith and not plain curiosity)

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, I bet whatever Prince does next its gonna be a pretty strange left-turn (hopefully away from the bad smooth jazz crap on Rainbow Children and, especially, N.E.W.S.)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link

brought both Around and Parade to work today... listening to Parade I realize that part of the reason this album's never left that huge an impression on me is that so many of the songs are so goddamned short! that and some of the jazzy orchestrations make things bleed together to my ears, everything up to Girls & Boys may as well be one song... also I have a hard time disassociating some of this from the truly crap movie, which my wife has made me watch numerous times...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

"Under the Cherry Moon" is way cooler than "Purple Rain." Maybe if Kristin Scott Thomas starred in the latter and made it with Morris Day I'd enjoy it more.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link

"I Wonder U" is just awesome in its microcity, as is "Life Would Be So Nice"

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

100% agreement with Dan - + any mixtape/soundtrack about/to me being love would have to include "Life Can be So Nice"

― Jedmond (Jedmond), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Can/Would = Tomayto/Tomahto (or perhaps I'm just going senile)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I forgive anybody who love "I Wonder U" - how about we ignore Prince, and comprimise on "Life Could Be So Nice"

Thomayto

― Jedmond (Jedmond), Thursday, 3 March 2005 00:30 (nineteen years ago) link

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