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Ramesh Ponnuru on Palin
Posted by: Feddie
Thursday, October 2, 2008 at 09:21PM
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As many of y'all know, National Review Online is down right now. Well, my good friend Ramesh Ponnuru and I have been emailing one another throughout the debate, and I asked him if I could post his thoughts on Governor Palin's performance during the vice-presidential debate tonight. He graciously agreed, so here they are:

Any conservative who was white-knuckled going into this is relaxing by now. There were some points where she was a bit more platitudinous than one would ideally want, but overall--she's cleaning up. Biden is sighing more as the night goes on, and I can see why.
I could not agree more. Well done, Governor Palin! You did us proud.

Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link

god it's an orgy up there

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link

"thank you for that!"

i think she was shitting bricks the whole time

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Ugh. All commentators feign neutrality immediately afterwards.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Biden's talking her ear off!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link

chuck todd trashing biden

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link

she didn't have a clue up there imo and i think biden did well but i don't think it will make a lick of difference

omar little, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link

The "we need to embiggen my role" thing should get some play tomorrow

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link

ooh... CNN online video is covering the milling about the stage.

And after the show there's the after party/ And after the party there's the hotel lobby.

Herb Hitts, Bad Vibe magazine (kenan), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link

There's the baby! LIFT SIMBA ALOFT!

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link

ugh, i just blew an hour of study time for this

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Charlie Gibson: "I dont' think you can come away from this without respecting both these candidates."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Sully:

10.30 pm. Biden's sobriety and authority and call for fundamental change is both reasonable and solid. It will resonate, I think. As you can read, I began this debate feeling that she was steam-rolling him. She was. But it was a steam-roller coming at you on fumes, not real fuel. She doesn't have it. Maybe one day she might. But not now. Biden's peroration was very, very strong. There is no contest here. There was only one loser: Gewn Ifill. She was intimidated, peripheral, neutered. The rules didn't help. But Ifill put in a dreadful performance.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Palin's had a big day, I think she deserves ice cream.

Herb Hitts, Bad Vibe magazine (kenan), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Ugh. All commentators feign neutrality immediately afterwards.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, October 2, 2008 4:35 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol switch to MSNBC

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link

quick question: palin quotes "city on a hill" as reagan--is this who the line is commonly associated with? i mean, duz it automatically mean 'reagan' and not 'puritans'? (John Winthrop?)

thomp, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link

lol the Palin's left early/ Biden's still kicking it

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah it's reagan now xpost

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link

ifill was atrocious

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Palins/Bidens

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Iffil didnt give a fuck

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link

339am going to bed

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Ifill got out of the way, like the government oughta.

Herb Hitts, Bad Vibe magazine (kenan), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Gerry Ferraro's on NBC proving while she was the dullest veep candidate ever.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link

omg MSNBC <3 <3 <3 Rachael Maddow <3 <3 <3 "palin was borderline CARTOON-EY with her gimmicky folksiness" ... "like she was portraying a character instead of being herself"

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Begala's point is good, that Palin's job tonight was to rehabilitate Sarah Palin, and she did okay.

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Pat Buchanan: "of the four debaters we've seen, she was the most engaging and attractive we've seen" loooool

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link

hang on who pays pat buchanan mind

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Rachel Maddow: "next person who winks at me, I don't know if I can take it" LOL

Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:44 (fifteen years ago) link

McLaughlin and his group

burt_stanton, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Ooo. SNL Live Election Updates every Thursday. Exciting!

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Pat Buchanan: "of the four debaters we've seen, she was the most engaging and attractive we've seen"

no homo

I think this debate will not change the minds of anyone who has already decided. They both did what they set out to do.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link

CBS and NBC have both said the Iraq questions generated the most interest.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought palin did well on this. didnt seem nervous or unprepared to me, and now I'm wondering if talking to a big group, several feet away from the nearest other person is more her style than one-on-one interviews. also, my gut feeling is she helped her ticket more than Biden helped his -- not that Biden hurt his ticket, but he did seem more like a "democratic politician" where palin seemed like a "passionate conservative". small difference, but one that imo gave her a slight edge tonight overall.

and before I am skewed and/or shunned, I will note I thought close to the opposite about the obama/mccain debate!

Dominique, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link

she delivered the whole fucking thing like a goddamn sportscenter anchor

al gore rhythm nation (m bison), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link

palin seemed HELL OF nervous

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Matthew Dowd: Joe Biden won this debate.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:47 (fifteen years ago) link

http://mediacurves.com/

sensual harrassment (naus), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:47 (fifteen years ago) link

cnn voter panel overwhelmingly say biden won

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I cannot endure another 4 years of a regime that cannot properly pronounce "NUCLEAR". ARRRGGGGGHHHHHhhhh!

Wiggy Woo, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Link, YGS?

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link

"palin was borderline CARTOON-EY with her gimmicky folksiness" ... "like she was portraying a character instead of being herself"

^^^ a meme that will have traction. Seen it elsewhere too.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link

ana marie cox the maria d of cnn

danbunny, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:51 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost to gr80, did pick up on the voice trembling, which would have been humanizing if she was in a public speech class.

al gore rhythm nation (m bison), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:51 (fifteen years ago) link

OMG there's a weird cross-eyed hipster republican in the cnn panel!!!!

this is on tv mordy

WHO THINKS OBAMA WILL WIN THE ELECTION: almost everyone raises their hand

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:51 (fifteen years ago) link

any pundits talking about the biden choking up?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link

that nuclear answer was crrrrazy

Maverick (Mr. Que), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link

in addition to her voice trembling she was TALKING SO FAST

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link

she was all set to go to weather or sports

Maverick (Mr. Que), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link


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