Magic: The Gathering C/D

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One card-printing error of note appeared on the card Serendib Efreet. This blue creature card was misprinted with a green border and a picture of another card, Ifh-Bíff Efreet. The name, mana cost and rules text were of Serendib Efreet, however. The Revised version is now the most common due to the limited print run of the original, intended versions.

Love this card, pack four of 'em in the blue/black deck.

ian, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think shroud means it cant be the target of spells or effects

also, that is just some online series or something, not a real card. my bad

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

too many new terms & mechanics with each expansion = one of the reasons i stopped playing. the other main reason was... high school.

ian, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

i kind of want 2 get into this but it seems deeply complicated in an unfun way?

THE BATHYPELAGIC ZONE (Lamp), Thursday, 11 June 2009 01:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah it seems it but if you have any affinity/familiarity with games in general i could teach you to play in about an hour.

DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Thursday, 11 June 2009 03:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's not a hard game to grasp, especially if yer just fuckin with the basic sets and not making any attempt to "stay current" or anything. i haven't bought magic cards in... a long time. not long enough that i'd be comfortable saying exactly, but a long time. years.

ian, Thursday, 11 June 2009 03:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

yah i mean ill fuck w/ catan and zombies and bang and fukken dragonball rpg so i figure i can "get it" but everytime my friends start to explain it the whole thing seems really overly rule-y and limited. sad realness: i kind of just want 2 play because i like the pictures on the cards

THE BATHYPELAGIC ZONE (Lamp), Thursday, 11 June 2009 04:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

been readin abt new sets and tournament decks this morning. don't even know where there's a decent game store anymore.

DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Thursday, 11 June 2009 15:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Funny that this got revived because they just announced a set of new rules two days ago to simplify and streamline the game, and make it easier to learn. (Naturally, the hardcore players are up in arms.) Or did you revive because you heard about the new rules, destroyer?

It is a pretty complicated game, but a lot of rules just cover unusual circumstances that rarely come up. The nice thing is most new cards are self-explanatory or intuitive after you've got the basic rules down.

Vinnie, Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

i revived cause i had gotten together with some friends to play, a couple of us had mostly old cards and a couple had mostly new cards (so every game involved a shitload of reading). i read about the rule changes after that. not sure i'm down w/the new combat rules.

picked up 15 alara block boosters on saturday and am opening them now. this set is hilarious, it basically is forcing the issue and making ppl play 3-5 color decks. prob will be fun to put a deck together.

DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Monday, 15 June 2009 01:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

^^^ pull that card out of your hat next time cad

stone phillips i love u because u r my dad (Lamp), Monday, 15 June 2009 02:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

As an old school dungeon master, it's impossible for me to see Magic as anything but the game that destroyed the attention span of millions of potential RPGers.

And then they WOTC bought TSR, just to add insult to injury.

Total DUD I say!

Nate Carson, Monday, 15 June 2009 11:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

xp i would definitely throw down w/a hatbunny card.

DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Monday, 15 June 2009 13:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

this fan-created variant brought me back to the game after 13(!) years.

it's really fun and totally casual. you have a general that must be a legendary creature. all your cards must be one of your generals colors. you start with 40 life. you can use cards from every format. there is a ban list but it's just for the most broken unfun unfair cards.

the format is now officially supported with pre-constructed decks.

Thee Macallan 18 Year, Friday, 11 November 2011 22:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

the one we used to do was called 250, basically you built a 250 card deck w/ at least 20 of each color, plus you played for ante (had to be a rare though), and could play Contract from Below which made it really fun - was such a great casual format and bascially all that was played at the store I went to for years - then the rules "committee" massively fucked it up, restricting Contract, then banning it, then not restricting or banning cards that were killing the format (mostly b/c most of them didn't even play anymore), then completely changing the rules, and now nobody plays it - meanwhile Commander got a ton of support officially, kinda makes me wonder how big 250 could have been at it been managed even remotely properly

frogbs, Saturday, 12 November 2011 14:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Andy/ProjectEBAY/MagicCards.html these prices are so retarded omg

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people should all be blown up

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should see how high they are now! (would guess all of them have doubled in price since)

frogbs, Saturday, 12 November 2011 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol you play magic as well as poker - ?

are people who pay that sort of money for magic cards people who are playing at a high enough level to be making bank off of it, or at least people who are close enough to delude themselves of same? or are they like IT professionals who don't know how to spend money

thomp, Saturday, 12 November 2011 15:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

its some from both columns, I guess the one defensible thing about it is that they are almost like stock, and I don't think the prices have ever dropped - as time goes on they only get more rare, the only way they'll take a big fall is if the game dies out, which IMO is really not happening anytime soon. my one big purchase was about 6 years ago, I bought a dude's collection for $1400 with the intention of selling most of it over time, and honestly wish I hadn't dealt any of it, as the entire thing would be worth $6000+ today. here's a card that was worth about $15 at the time, check this out now:

http://sales.starcitygames.com//search.php?substring=underground+sea&Go.x=15&Go.y=9

btw I don't think many people are making much money off of playing the game (maybe like 1% of the players), but if you can predict the market for buying/selling certain cards you can definitely do well

frogbs, Saturday, 12 November 2011 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

should i play the dark ascension prerelease tournament it means getting up at 8am on a saturday

roborally.rar (Lamp), Friday, 20 January 2012 01:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

sealed? does the set look cool?

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

lamp, do it for those of us who want to live vicariously through you and provide a full report

call all destroyer, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah its a sealed, $25 bucks gets you um some # of boosters (i think 9?) and a promo card.

i totaled up what it would cost me to complete my innistrad set on starcitygames and its like $90 + shipping/taxes. i hate myself sometimes

roborally.rar (Lamp), Friday, 20 January 2012 01:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha don't do #2 you will find a complete set to be a white elephant. #1 sounds like a decent use of $25.

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

only pay for cards that you will almost definitely play with + directly enjoy

Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

well i dont have $90 to my name atm so theres no risk i was just curious. amusingly enough ive pulled two of the really expensive innistrad cards (snapcaster and one of the planeswalkers) from boosters so its mostly just cheap cards left

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

although i know for a fact you two are both way underestimating the pleasure i would get from having a complete card set

its mostly lol cuz you can buy a complete set of innistrad on ebay for like $110 bux atm

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah I think I have a hard time seeing things from a collector's pov but I'm like aspie on the other side of the spectrum. 'what is this object's functional value for me'

anyway I will play anyone itt cockatrice tonight

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

man i just started buying cards again. haven't played since ice age. shit is great.

i haven't played a physical match against a real opponent yet, just trying stuff out on cockatrice. i've won a couple games using decks assembled from cards i actually own. thinking about going out to the burbs for friday night magic tomorrow but worry about embarrassing myself horribly.

adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

cockatrice is super fun but dudes keep busting out these like $$$ standard decks and annihilating me, would like to play against decks comparable to those found at a south louisiana gaming store.

adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah when i played iatee last he used a constructed deck that just destroyed me like i could not win

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

look i like the forbidden alchemy into unburial rites into sun titan into grave titan via 8 million rare dual lands as much as the next guy but at some point it turns into an unwinnable arms race

adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

aw man I like the beauty of the unwinnable arms races, it becomes all about statistics and tailoring the perfect deck

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean I like the idea of it, I was very much against it when I was a kid and could afford exactly 3 of the cards needed to make said perfect deck

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

totally. coming back to magic after 15 years, with the internet-enabled secondary market and a grownup's disposable income--these serious decks are somewhat attainable at this point but my mindset is still firmly in buying boosters, opening them up and making do with what i get.

of course i am learning, to which my recent ebay sprees can attest.

adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha I still don't have a grownup's disposable income I just play online

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

nb by serious i mean stromkirk noble rather than 4x snapcaster

adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

look i like the forbidden alchemy into unburial rites into sun titan into grave titan via 8 million rare dual lands as much as the next guy but at some point it turns into an unwinnable arms race

this is why im only playing w/friends or booster draft/sealed

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm gonna play in the dark ascension prerelease. haven't played since invasion but made a new friend with a sick collection and played a couple cube drafts with him; was ill.

is cockatrice the new good online app? what about magic workstation?

i will also play people itt online. suppose i might as well get cockatrice

chillin in the volvo, listenin' to alva-noto (fennel cartwright), Friday, 20 January 2012 03:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

cockatrice is way better than workstation!

call all destroyer, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's way better in that it doesn't crash / is super easy to set up and use

but the deck builder really sucks and there is no sealed generator

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

dark ascension seems pretty neat so far, there's a card that raises all Zombies from the dead and then literally says "Destroy all Humans"

sucks to be like the one dude playing the hypothetical "Human" deck and just get totally hosed. guess you have to accept your fate

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

was thinking about a human deck for dark ascension actually, the human token generators + champ of the parish + all the innistrad human-centric equivalent seems like a good time. until the zombie apocalypse.

adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like the 'stuff happens when you have less than 5 life' ability

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

"magic: the gaythering"
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NZA, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

2,650 results

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

37 mil is for the alternative spelling 'magic the gathering'

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah there are some pretty obnoxious ones (like the pro black and green double strikers and that stupid "geist of saint something" that's way more powerful than it should be), but that card just amuses me - IIRC the Zombies in Innistrad aren't even worth playing in draft

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

im makin a t2 deck based around this card:

obviously its expensive to cast but it's a damn 20-point life swing and there are a lot of good accel. cards, so why the hell not? it's like a $1 card too

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha that's pretty dope

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

there are some blue/black mill yrself decks that work with zombies but it requires a really specific draft setup in order to get the big black spells to pay off ime

geist of saint traft is way overpowered but its p easy to work against. i still like g/w humans deck tbh just too many combos in limited rn

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:15 (2 years ago) Permalink


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