S/D: Albums where "avant-garde" or classical artists worked with rock groups and vice versa

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Dan, Michael McClure did a concert on video, performing with Ray Manzarek. Think it was LION LOVE? Released by Mystic Fire Video, anyway. Also, Ray and Glass did a version of Carmina Brurana, which I haven't heard. (Glass also has said he got some good ideas from Ry's composing and playing for the Doors). Pete Townsend said he got the idea for "Baba O'Riley" from listening to Terry, duh. Is Terry going to do an album of those McClure settings? I guess we should include Arthur Russell applying his (and other people's) classical training to to disco. (THE WORLD OF ECHO, with lots of bonus tracks and DVD, comes out Oct. 27, according to Amazon.)Also see the Prog/Disco thread.

Don A, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:36 (nineteen years ago) link

The Flying Lizards/Michael Nyman collaborations!

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry to post twice; it said I'd failed the first time. Yeah, Toop and Beresford also played *in* Flying Lizards, and I think Dan named some others on the Prog/Disco thread. Lester Bowie's recorded with David Bowie, and there's more Don Cherry on the Lou Reed box. Bob Dylan sings and pays with Arthur Russell on the Ginsberg box. (And jazz critic Kevin Whitehead says that Dylan's said he's recorded Ornette and Don Cherry. Anybody ever heard those boots?)

Don, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Don Cherry was on the Rip, Rig + Panic records w/his daughter

JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 04:09 (nineteen years ago) link

don, you always have such informative posts, but you write like a madman

JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Ornette is on Lou Reed's The Raven, and some album by Joe Henry that I've never heard.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 10:26 (nineteen years ago) link

United States Of America to thread.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 10:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Philip Glass also contributed a string composision for the end of Paul Simon's "Hearts And Bones" album

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 10:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Kenny Wheeler playing flugelhorn on parts of Sylvian's "Gone to Earth", and also Harry Beckett on the same instrument. Rather good record, having Fripp and Bill Nelson by turns on guitar.

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Never really got Gone To Earth - a bit too close to ECM-lite for my tastes, I'm afraid, though I distinctly recall at the time angry Duran fans returning the record to shops in droves because they thought the John Taylor credited on piano was the Duran John Taylor, as opposed to the Britjazz pianist John Taylor.

Secrets Of The Beehive, however, is awesome.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Imformative posts, writes like a madman. Per the latter , you mena the Voice stuff, or the posts? The posts are hasty, in between office work. The Voice, er--anyway, had forgetten about Ornette, but is he one the single-disc RAVEN as well as the double? The confusion of John Taylor's makes me wonder if anybody's ever checked out Insect Trust because they thought it was Robert "Addicted To Love"Palmer's old band. Last night I listened to a bonus track on the reissue of Cristina's SLEEP IT OFF, where she's drawling the POV of this dangerous baby gold digger,recorded a decade before the emergence of Anna Nicole, and co-written by her and Robert Palmer, and I can't tell which one! Talk about your avant pop. Also listened to THAI BEAT A GO-GO VOlUME 1, on which Thais put their own thing on American pop. Johnny's Guitar likes to take surf/Space Age Bachelor Pad themes into something like early psych, and, on "Supannahong," they meld some of those bits into Thai classical music. Sort of like "Venus In Furs" sitting down very carefully in a hot tub (strangely mellow). (I got this from forcedexposure.com). Also, should we consider avant garde music with pop *movies*? If so, make mine Bebe and Louis Barron's way-before-Moog tracks in FORBIDDEN PLANET, and Stanley Kubrick's turning me on to Ligeti etc. in SPACE ODYSSEY and THE SHINING.

Don, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't read the voice, talkin about your hasty, in between office work posts.

also, how could i have forgotten about the Robert Fripp & Darryl Hall album?

JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, Fripp's solos on "Heroes," "Fade Away And Radiate," and his playing on and production of the better Roches albums (he's even got the Synergy guy on summat!)

Don, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Yoko Ono to thread.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, Marcello, I always loved all but two songs on Gone To Earth, which I find a little sappy. "Before the Bullfight", however, is one of Sylvian's greatest (and longest) melodies; and the "Wave"/"Riverman" medley on side two is time-stoppingly beautiful. Also, I don't think anyone could accurately call the title track "ECM-lite"

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Isn't Fripp considered more of a rock guitarist anyway?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 14 October 2004 03:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Of course... art-rock (even art-pop, 'pon occasion; the 'MOR trilogy'). I was just considering "Gone to Earth" at large, and I do feel it's a very beguiling record. Nay as great as "Brilliant Trees", admittedly; not heard "Secrets of the Beehive" yet.

Tom May (Tom May), Saturday, 16 October 2004 01:06 (nineteen years ago) link

And there's always the way Sonny Sharrock brought the (perfectly timed!)avant noise to Herbie Mann's super-cheesy "Philly Dog" on LIVE AT THE WHISKEY A-GO-GO.

don, Saturday, 16 October 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not sure if Annette Peacock with Bill Bruford (on Feels Good To Me) counts.

dlp9001, Saturday, 16 October 2004 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link

really bummed out on reading the Outside the Dream Syndicate hate.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 16 October 2004 03:44 (nineteen years ago) link


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