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Prince Paul was a member of the Gravediggaz. Prince Paul's 1st solo joint (_Psychoanalysis_) was 1st released on the Wordsound label, also home to those beloved MC Hawd Gankstuz of mine (gotta get that CD!). These MCs have also dropped lyrical trou on the Providence- based Load Records label, also home to Lightning Bolt. Lightning Bolt is part of an artistic collective called Fort Thunder - check out http://www.fortthunder.org for more info, yo. Of course, Fort Thunder rocks, much in the way that AC/DC rock - coincidentally, AC/DC wrote a song called "Thunderstruck". AC/DC was the subject of a series of tributes from various underground groups, including the super-duper Shellac, who have been known to play a show or 10 with ... FUGAZI.

As noted earlier, Fugazi arose from the fertile loam of the DC punk scene. Another notable musician that took root in that loam is Dave Grohl (who really needs to play more drums). Once upon a time, Dave Grohl had a tape released by the super-terrific Simple Machines label just before _Nevermind_ was released. The tape was called _Pocketwatch_ - it was a series of 8 tapes. Unfortunately, the success of _Nevermind_ led to many, many demands for this tape, which led Simple Machines to stop making the tapes. Which is a shame, because I doubt many people will get to hear the Mommyheads' offering to this series, which features the greatest song title EVER:

"Undress Me With Your Golf Ball".

― David Raposa, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Mommyheads also had another single on Simple Machines called "It's All at the Mall". While you probably won't find FUGAZI albums at the mall, someone once found a Dead Kennedys album at the mall, featuring a poster by H.R. Giger. While Giger was probably best known for his contributions to the Alien series of movies, he did a lot of artwork, some for album covers, like...oh, say, Danzig III. Danzig featured the skin-work of Chuck Biscuits who not only worked with DOA and the Circle Jerks, but with Black Flag too. As previously established, Flag lead singer Henry Rollins knew Ian Mackaye of FUGAZI back in DC, but they also spent a lot of time hanging out at an ice cream shop. Therefore, Jonathan Richman's "Ice Cream Man".

― Sean Carruthers, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

not to be confused with raekwon's 'ice cream', which featured johhny fuckin blaze spitting slang out like a muh-fuh. meth got that name from the secret identity of marvel comics' 'ghost rider', but then changed it to johnny storm after 'blaze' became a massive hiphop cliche, johnny storm of course being the human torch, a member of the fantastic four. super-dope dj crew the x-men weren't as lucky with their comic-derived moniker, they were forced to change to 'the nextmen' under threat of lawsuit (no word from john byrne on this, yet). the nextmen also recently did a banging remix of encore's 'love & hate', which was released on automator's 75 ark label. of course, automator wouldn't be famous if it wasn't for a fellow named kool keith, who was much better as a member of ULTRAMAGNETIC MCS.

― ethan, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"It was a series of 8 tapes"? I must be illiterate or dopey.

The MC5 (whose magnetivity is unknown) kicked out the jams once upon a time. Alice Cooper was caught on VH1 offering praise to the MC5. Alice Cooper plays golf (quite well, I heard).

"Undress Me With Your Golf Ball"!!!

― David Raposa, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Golf is a sport enjoyed by Alice Cooper. Alice Cooper appeared on the Muppet Show, the home of FLOYD PEPPER, who is not to be confused with Art Pepper. Art Garfunkel was "the other guy", just like Andrew Ridgely. Ridgeley's better half was George Michael. Another person with two first names was Hal David.

― Sean Carruthers, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

and so's keith murray, whose first album was produced by erick sermon, sort of like redman's first album, which had a song on it called 'a day of sooperman luver', which samples johnny ' guitar' watson's 'superman lover'(duh), a classic dc comics-influenced record, just like gza's 'liquid swords' (with cover art by dc's denys cowans, a member of the afro-centric 'milestone' imprint). that album was, of course, produced by the rza, whose 'bobby digital' album cover was by bill sienkiewicz, also the artist on epmd's business as usual (also produced by erick sermon, whoa). of course that album's 'rampage' featured the fresh-for-1990 stylings of a mister LL COOL J.

― ethan, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

LL Cool J might BE a real-life comic character, since he actually thought he could get away with writing the theme song to a movie about SUPER SHARKS! Of course, sharks ==> _Jaws_ ==> _Moonraker_ ==> James Bond ==> _Goldfinger_ ==> cover of "99 Luftballoons" (ugh, ugh, ugh) festooned on the PS2 game, _Gran Turismo 3_. Of course, there's also Motley Crue's "Kickstart My Heart", which r0X0rs. Heart, however, don't, though they did cover a Led Zeppelin song as the Lovemongers on the _Singles_ soundtrack. My favorite track on that album used to be Chris Cornell's "Seasons", but Chris is really pushing my once-boundless love for him & Soundgarden, given his odious studio project, and his team-up with the bland 3/4ths of Rage Against the Machine. Rage, once upon a time, covered the Boss' "The Ghost of Tom Joad". MY boss has a copy of the _Mortal Kombat II_ soundtrack, tucked in between his wife's copies of Celine Dion's odious contributions to Western culture. And, one day, while farting around his house, I discovered that Corey Hart contributed a song to one of her albums. Yes, the writer of such gems as "Never Surrender" and "Sunglasses At Night". Meanwhile, Cheap Trick (authors of such gems as "Surrender" and "Taxman. Mr. Thief") are forced to play their 3 best albums live in order to get any attention. Not that recording "The Flame" wasn't shameful enough. As far as one-hit wonders essayed by fine musical outfits, "Hell" (by Squirrel Nut Zippers) is a much better effort. They wrote it themselves, with their own hands & feet, they did.

― David Raposa, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Well Did You Evah" being a song covered by Debbie Harry and Iggy Pop for a tribute album.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

debbie harry of course was in blondie, who in 1981 did a song called 'rapture', which was wackly sampled by krs-one for his 1997 hit 'step into a world'. of course kris sounds best when he's on some dj premier, as does good-for-you mc jeru tha damaja, who's been lucky enough to have primo production for two albums. the intro to jeru's 'wrath of the math' (aptly titled 'wrath of the math') was a frustratingly obvious sample that i just couldn't place, until i listened to 'sketches of spain' the other day and heard that particular riff. another guy who likes to sample miles is dj spooky, who lifted part of 'on the corner' for his subliminal minded ep, the title of which is based on a quote from gza's 'living in the world today' ('criminal subliminal minded rappers find it...'). the chorus of that song states that 'if you living in the world today, you be hearing the slang that the wu-tang say'. one bit of slang popularized by the wu is 'cream', derived from 'cash rules everything around me', which is quoted on 'new world water' by MOS DEF.

― ethan, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Which leads us, of course, directly to "Floating Boy" by... FUGAZI (you asked for it, Ethan).

― Josh, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

it appears that this 'fugazi' band are from DC. well, i'll tell you who else is, the poem-cees, the too-funky-for-words hiphop/poetry act that ain't on that bling bling shit. hiphop poetry has historically been a patchy exercise, but i think a good example is common's 'my city' (featuring malik the wordsmith). that album has a number of great guest appearances, but the most frequently mentioned one is canibus' on 'making a name for ourselves', because of a glaring mathematical error in the chorus. despite the title, canibus didn't make any math fuck-ups on '4,3,2,1' where he tore shit up with a number of distuinguished guests of mr.cool james, including meth and redman, who have a long history of collabarations that culminated in the album 'blackout!'. really ancient painter dude michaelangelo had so many noted homosexual tendencies that you might say he was 'out', at least for his time. from this formula you get eric b. and rakim's 'no omega', on which r declares himself 'the black michaelangelo' ('black...out', get it?) that's not a very good rakim song, and neither is coldcut's remix of 'paid in full'. coldcut have done some things right though, especially signing kid koala after hearing his mixtape 'scratchcratchratch' inside his van. one of the selections from that tape was isolated as a track called 'emperor's main course', which was heavily based on samples from 'the last emperor'. last emperor was also the name of an artist who worked with rza on the last lyricist lounge album, but of course the best lyricis lounge was of course the first one, which contained one of my favorite singles of the 90s: mos def + tash + q-tip's 'body rock'. this was produced by shawn j. period, who also did some work on the bush babees album, but gave up the boards on 'the love song' to allow posdnuos to do his shit surprisingly well. and only a fool don't know that pos hails from DE LA SOUL.

― ethan, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"This is Cracker Soul" was an early Cracker fave, but not a hit like "Low." Low are a band from chilly Duluth, Minnesota who make very slow music. Some would say boring - kind of like Long Division, one of their albums. I seem to recall that being a FUGAZI song. (Cheers Ethan.)

― Josh, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

long division can be tricky to learn, i suggest kids start early with the fundamentals of division by pumping division rap in their motherfuckin headphones all day long. i suppose this sort of thing would be classified as 'edutainment', just like that bdp album. that was the third bdp album after the death of scott la rock, half of the original duo that was bdp. kris kept the name and went for delf with it, unlike ZEVLOVE X, who retired the good kmd moniker after the death of his brother subroc and is now known as mf doom. kmd's first album contains a reference to grand puba's propensity for many many skins, as does tribe's 'the chase pt. II', whose chorus is a dope vocal sample of 'nobody beats the biz' by the unimitable BIZ MARKIE.

― ethan, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Biz sang "Albee Square Mall" which has got dentists in the basement who do my roommate's dental work. I agree, it's sketchy. But she has no complaints. A friend's old band, The Benders, sang "She's My Dentist". The Benders featured Earl Bethel, an amazing guitar player who died of causes unknown in a Las Vegas hotel room while working out there, playing electric zither in Blue Man Group's Vegas show. Blue Man Group is like 4 irritating Mobys... blah blah Fugazi.

(every detail in this post unfortunately = true)

― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Fugazi" sounds like an Italian dish, maybe some type of poached fish in dill butter. It also sounds Japanese. Which makes me wonder: did Fugazi steal Cibo Matto's name?? Cibo Matto toured a couple of times with Sean Lennon and Russell Simins, who's got to be so over his name sounding exactly like Russell Simmons's, the pompous fuck hip hop exec who back in the day produced RUN D.M.C.'S "RAISING HELL".

― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Raising Hell is certainly a trickier task than raising arizona. But that indeed was the title of a film by the Cohen Brothers, whose delightful Big Lebowski featured Blue Jean by Capt'n Beefheart on the soundtrack. Beefheart worked with Zappa earlier. Zappa had a hit song called "Valley Girl" done with the aid of his daughter. Another group featuring multiple family members is OASIS.

― Sterling Clover, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

oasis? fuck, man. well, an oasis in england isn't a very good thing, but in egypt it can be lifesaving, which is where the video for michael jackson's 'remember the time' was set. besides featuring eddie murphy as an unconvincing pharoah (and the model from star trek six as his, uh, female-pharoah- counterpart-thing) also had half of the pharcyde as dancers. the pharcyde's 'pork' (backed on my 'passin me by' single) was a parody of hardcore gangsta rap, so is the first track (well, second, after the intro) on black sheep's 'wolf in sheep's clothing'. now, on de la soul is dead, one of the assholes who steals the tape from the kids in the skits was played by mister lawnge from black sheep. he declared it to be wack and threw it away, and that reminds me of the time i found a wallflowers tape in the school parking lot; my reaction was quite similar. jacob dylan is the son of a famous 60s musician, almost exactly like sean lennon, who i like a lot better(and also dates that girl from cibo matto, whoa). my first exposure to sean was when he guested on the handsome boy modelling school album, and while i enjoyed his track, i enjoyed 'magnetizing' much better for it's pairing of old favorite mc del with prince paul + automator dope production. and every deltron and gorillaz-loving hipster out there nowadays knows that del's cousin is ICE CUBE.

― ethan, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

... blah blah blah FUGAZI

― Josh, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

josh tells me there is a fugazi song called 'birthday pony'. there's not many songs about ponies, the only one that comes to mind is de la soul's 'pony ride'. 'millie pulled a pistol on santa' was beautifully covered for an x-mas comp by THE ROOTS.

― ethan, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ROOT in Australasian slang means to have sexual intercourse. Most rock bands do songs about having sexual intercourse. Except MINOR THREAT.

― duane, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Stinky Puffs was a rock group featuring a bunch of offspring from famous musical folks - MINORS, if you will. One such offspring (the lead singer, actually) was the son of a Jad Fair, one half of Half- Japanese (or, at least, one half when Jad's brother, David, is the only other member in the group). Half-Japanese "sing" about "No More Beatlemania," asking, "What about Shaggsmania?" Indeed, what about those 3 winsome gals from New Hampshire rockin' the party that rocks the body with songs like "My Pal Foot Foot"? Perhaps Austin Powers was a fan of the Shaggs, given his propensity to hop on the good foot and do the bad thing - that is, when he wasn't fronting Ming Tea, a group featuring Bangle Susannah Hoffs. Hoffs & the Bangles were fortunate enough to record a track written by The Purple One - "Manic Monday". (It's a rather duff song, though.) The Boomtown Rats didn't like Mondays, but Bob Geldof sure liked helping out the needy on Christmas time. Many of those helpful rock folks that sang on "Feed the World" (ick ick poo) also lent a hand on "We Are the World". And one of the vocalists that lent his vocal stylings to a live performance of "We Are the World" (during a Live-Aid show) was ... wait for it ...

MTV producer JOE DUVOLA.

― David Raposa, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

[Alright, kids - stop showing off. Might I suggest briefer and more light-footed connections from now on? Oh, and winning conditions are temporarily suspended until the concentration of *a certain DC-area band* in this thread has been massively diluted by other ingredients].

Duvola? Sounds a bit like Rev-Ola. Who were responsible for the re-release of:

A Certain Ratio: "Sextet"

― Michael Jones, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I don't know if Tet ever had Sex, but rumour has it that the Pistols did. If you're looking for the antidote, look no further than The Celibate Rifles.

― Sean Carruthers, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ned Rifle is Hal Hartley's nome de plume, as it were. He is the director of such movies as Amateur and Trust. Trust is an album by Elvis Costello.

― JM, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Costello worked with Paul McCartney on "My Brave Face," which was on _Flowers In the Dirt._ Many critics agreed that that album was the one that saved McCartney's tepid late-80s career from permanently entombing him six feet into the dirt, which is where Kurt Cobain says one goes when coming from "out of the ground," in "Very Ape." This sounds somewhat like "Moby Grape," whose guitarist Skip Spence was the drummer in the original incarnation of the Jefferson Airplane, next to pre-Grace Slick singer Signe Anderson, who left to have a baby. "(You're) Havin' My Baby" is a wonderfully horrible song by Paul Anka, whose last name could easily be mistaken when spoken quickly for "canker," the important half of "canker sore," which not only sounds like but could also be used to describe Mandy Moore.

― matthew m, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Demi Moore was in a movie called 'Striptease,' which is about strippers. JSBX had a song called Lapdance which was, in part,about strippers, but mostly it was about Andrei Williams being a dirty old man.

― JM, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Lapdance" is also a recent single by N.E.R.D. who, as The Neptunes, produced "Southern Hospitality" by Ludacris. It is, in Momus's opinion, ludicrous that educated people should listen to chartpop, but the founder of FT puts middle finger up to that idea. Oxide and Neutrino put their middle finger up, and also have a Devil's Nightmare, and D12 have a Devil's Night. Their cohort, Eminem, initially broke with "My Name Is ..." and DMX asked "What's My Name?". Hence: DMX.

― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

dmx stands for 'dark man of the unknown'. darkman was a fantastic b-movie by sam raimi, who also did EVIL DEAD II.

― ethan, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Aleister Crowley is evil, and dead too. Kacy Crowley is not evil...I think. K.C. and the Sunshine Band, however, were probably evil, through and through--when they were telling you to "Get Down Tonight" they were surely talking about getting down into the fiery pits of Hell...surely the inspiration for Shriekback's lousy cover of same.

― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Shriekback (I think) = Barry Andrews = XTC.

― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

xtc --> miss e: so addictive --> timbaland --> 'big pimpin' --> JAY-Z

― ethan, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

J and Z are the 10th and 26th letters of the alphabet. 26-10=16. I was 16 in 1984, hence:

Eurythmics: Sex Crime (1984).

― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

CRIME used to dress up like cops. so did 1 of the VILLAGE PEOPLE. THE VILLAGE was where they sent Patrick McGoohan in The Prisoner, which IRON MAIDEN did a song about.

― duane, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Iron Maiden also did a song called 'Can I Play With Madness?', an request the nutty Camden boys never granted. For contractual reasons, they were called 'The Madness' by this point, which is where problems could have arisen. The Madness's first single was the unremarkable 'I Pronounce You'.

― Nick, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

When Madness reformed, four years later, they were supported in Finsbury Park by Morrissey who performed "National Front Disco" and draped himself in the Union Jack, resulting in a lengthy NME inquest into Moz. Madness had originally had an unwanted NF following, as had Sham 69, who sang of "laced-up boots and corduroys". Corduroy were signed to Acid Jazz, a movement with which Jamiroquai was originally associated, and Jamiroquai was, ahem, *influenced* by Stevie Wonder, who recorded for Tamla Motown.

― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Chris Rock has a standup bit when he talks about Lables... "James Brown wan't singin' bout Epic! Fuckin' Temptations wan't singin' 'bout Motown!"

― JM, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

...but it's not as good as gza's 'labels'. gza was also on that last afu-ra single. afu-ra got his big break from jeru, and jeru got his big break from GANG STARR.

― ethan, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Guru from Gang Starr's album "Jazzmatazz" featured Roy Ayers, Donald Byrd and DC Lee. DC Lee was once married to Paul Weller.

― Michael Bourke, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Whose early records with The Jam were "influenced" by The Who.

― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The album Who's Next features a big wall immediately after the band has finished pissing on it. The song "Yellow River" was the one hit by early 70s one-hit-wonder Christie, who weren't related to, but shared a [last] name with famous pop crooner Lou Christie, whose song "There Is Nothing More To Say" was covered in 1973 on the last album by THE BRADY BUNCH. <-- (note cheeky appropriation of cheekily putting the ending term in all caps)

― matthew m, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Brady Bunch were a famous fictional singing family, as were the Partridge Family. Although Ruben Kincaid looked like Tom Cochrane, I'm not going to make that connection. Instead, a real-life relative of head Partridge Family crooner David Cassidy was brother Shaun Cassidy, who did a new wave album called Wasp, produced by Todd Rundgren, who was in UTOPIA.

― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The cover of Utopia's album Deface the Music was a parody of the cover of Beatles' With the Beatles. Also parodying this album cover, much more directly, was Meet the Residents, by the Residents. When the Residents perform live, most of the band is dressed up as large bloodshot eyeballs in top hats and tuxes. Someone else frequently seen in a tux, and often additionally sporting bloodshot eyeballs, was FRANK SINATRA.

― matthew m., Thursday, 26 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Nancy Sinatra recorded many duets with John Alderton-lookalike Lee Hazelwood, few finer than "Some Velvet Morning". This was also covered in 1981 or so by Roland S Howard and Lydia Lunch. After your lunch comes your dinner, hence:

"Guess Who's Coming To Dinner" by BLACK UHURU.

― Michael Jones, Thursday, 26 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

the 1st use of the word UHURU in rock might've been in "Ant Man Bee" by Cat. Beefheart. If you stand on a bee you get STUNG, he was the singer of the POLICE of whom NWA said fuck them, later Dr. Dre was to bring the world EMINEM.

― duane, Thursday, 26 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

EMINEM is the front man for D-12, a wack-ass group whose wack-ass first single, Purple Hills is wack. Lauren Hill should be coming out with new product sometime this year, if MTV News is to be believed.

― JM, Thursday, 26 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

M+M were a later incarnation of Martha and the Muffins who, early on, featured a young drummer called Tim Gane. No relation to the Stereolab fella, in much the same way that Dave ('n'Annie) Stewart and Dave ('n'Barbara) Stewart are unrelated. The latter worked with COLIN BLUNSTONE on a cover of "What Becomes Of The Brokenhearted".

― Michael Jones, Thursday, 26 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Divergence! I don't know if you meant Lauryn Hill, but there's a track on her LP called "To Zion". Colin Blunstone was in the The Zombies. In some (er, specialist) dictionaries, Zion and Zombie are separated only by:

ZODIAC MINDWARP.

― Michael Jones, Thursday, 26 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Zodiac Mindwarp sang "Feed my Frankenstein". "Frankenstein" was a song by New York Dolls. David Johansen of NY Dolls starred in "Car 54, where are you?". Studio 54 was a decadent niteclub in New York. It was also a shite movie with mike Myers but at least Sylvester's "You make me feel (mighty real)" was on the soundtrack.

― Michael Bourke, Thursday, 26 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sylvester [Stallone] was the lead character in Rocky -- a loveable tale about a loveable loser who just wanted to go the distance. What everyone seems to forget about the fight is that he doesn't win. He's a loser. He's not indicative of America, because Americans hate losers. Tho Beck was a Loser, and America LOVES him, for some reason. [He's] Found a Reason... to keep livin'...

― JM, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Love did a song called "Alone Again Or", which was later covered by The Damned. The Damned performed on the BBC comedy The Young Ones, as did Amazulu...and the Amazulu episode featured the joke: "Amazulu!" "Really? I'm a Norwegian!" One fab Norwegian band is the much-loved TURBONEGRO.

― Sean Carruthers, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

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