TS: Aphex Twin: Selected ambient works 85-92 VS SAW Volume 2

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But 85-92 is all about the heavenly analog love-fests, whilst SAWII is all about digital dragons being abducted by UFOs (case in point: disc 2 track 4)

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 17 July 2003 18:30 (twenty years ago) link

i've to-ed and fro-ed over which one i prefer, but i'm definitely on SAW2 at the moment. it's the first two tracks on Disc 2 that really do it for me right now - scarcely moving, gorgeous music.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 17 July 2003 22:13 (twenty years ago) link

eight months pass...
SAW I
Surfing On Sine Wines
Analogue Bubblebath Vol. 3
On EP
SAW II
Windowlicker
Hangable Auto Bulb
Classics
I Care Because You Do
Come to Daddy /Flim
RDJ Album
Expert Knob Twiddlers
Analogue Bubblebath Vol. 4

SAW1 makes me immensely happy and brings make too many good memories of being in London and my conversion from serious student to clubber; SAW2 is rewarding, but not immediate in the same way as SAW1.

I listened to both this week, and SAW1 wins.

Nik (Nik), Friday, 9 April 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago) link

yes yes yes! SAW2 is clever whereas SAW1 is just fucking wonderful.

don, Friday, 9 April 2004 21:30 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, SAW 1 succeeds without really trying. SAW II suceeds, but is really trying.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 April 2004 21:46 (twenty years ago) link

They're BOTH pretty.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 April 2004 23:08 (twenty years ago) link

music mole OTM.

Strangely that sentiment also neatly describes how I feel about Nirvana's Nevermind and In Utero.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 10 April 2004 02:51 (twenty years ago) link

But anyway, I love both of them, though SAW 85-92 has a slight edge for me.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 10 April 2004 02:52 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
I'm listening to SAW 85-92 for the first time in a very long time, and loving it more then I ever did. Both Xtal and Tha are phenomenal, an almost unbeatable way to open an album.
I did some searching on a few AFX fansites and was unable to figure out which of these songs was recorded in 1985. Can anyone enlighten me?

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Xtal kills me, always will do. No one has ever done anything like that ever.

I never found out when the songs were recorded but Xtal gives the impression of being quite old, doesn't it?

I'm going to play this now.

A Rush of Cold Blood To The Head (Bimble...), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Also I used to play Xtal when I DJ'd and people would always ask me what it was.

A Rush of Cold Blood To The Head (Bimble...), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still listening...after it's done, I'm going to try to predict which one is from 1985.

I know, I know ILM. Hold your breath.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Playing it now...Oh this is lovely. What a blast from the past!

A Rush of Cold Blood To The Head (Bimble...), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Early 1985 prediction: Green Calx. Only because of the excessive use of fake high-pitched roto-toms.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

You're a braver man than I.

Tha always makes me feel like I'm in my high school gym. Not cause I played it in there either...

A Rush of Cold Blood To The Head (Bimble...), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

- And Green Calx remains my predicted 1985 track. The rototom beats were one thing, but it was the repeated 'compacting garbage truck' sample that put the nail in the coffin.

Anyways, Killian Murphy was OTM in his initial remark that the first two tracks were the best thing on the album.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Sunday, 5 November 2006 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

you have to love that one track that is a complete rip off of Discreet Music by Brain Eno. I really lived in the record for a while a year or two ago. amazing what you can do with a matrix 6 and ms20 and a sampler.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Monday, 6 November 2006 00:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I've always suspected that "Green Calx" was the oldest track. That or "Hedphelym."

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 6 November 2006 03:40 (seventeen years ago) link

they were probably all recorded one day in 92

latebloomer: none of th movies make scence but they r good. (latebloomer), Monday, 6 November 2006 04:37 (seventeen years ago) link

HAhahahah! Quite a wizard, that Aphex guy...hard to put anything past him.

All The Furniture Is In The Garage (Bimble...), Monday, 6 November 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

wikipedia informs me that aphex twin has remixed the new paris hilton single. i presume this is a lie?

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 6 November 2006 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

It wouldn't surprise me.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 6 November 2006 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Heliosphan and (track 4 - an't remember the name?) are the best tracks, sorry.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 6 November 2006 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Ageispolis.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:05 (seventeen years ago) link

SAW 2 has been in my top 10 albums of all time since i got it. lovely, lovely record. its so much more emotional than anything else he's ever done. im not much a fan of the insane nonsense, but i do also like SAW1 and surfing on sine waves. still, SAW2 is so far beyond even those that it's not funny. obviously eno was an influence, but you cant call it a rip off. SAW2 is soul-ambient, nothing eno did (as wonderful as much of it is, im a huge eno fan!) can come close.

pipecock (pipecock), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:41 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

Finally got 'Ambient Works 85-92'. Absolutely loving it. Need Volume II as soon as possible.

krakow, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

SAW2 is soul-ambient

― pipecock (pipecock), Wednesday, November 8, 2006 9:41 PM

*cringe*

♖♕♖ (am0n), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link

haha

won't you be my GAPDY / come and make it rain down on NME (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

soulbient

randomized what nots (latebloomer), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.lastfm.es/music/100dBs/_/Poppa+Large+In+The+US

Loving this mashup of IZ-US against the Ultramagnetic's Poppa Large.

Moka, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Selected Ambient Works II > Selected Ambient Works 85-92

Even though Selected Ambient Works II is twice as long, I find it a far more engaging listen than Selected Ambient Works 85-92. I particularly like the track that sounds like snake charmer music, which sounds to me like a track Robert Smith could have come up with in 1984 or something if he had to come up with an ambient B-side for a Cure single.

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:02 (seven years ago) link

Richard D. James Album > Selected Ambient Works II > Selected Ambient Works 85-92

Handsome Bookor, Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:23 (seven years ago) link

probably about equal

a but (brimstead), Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:37 (seven years ago) link

Drukqs > Selected Ambient Works II > Richard D. James Album > Selected Ambient Works 85-92 > Syro > ...I Care Because You Do.

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:50 (seven years ago) link

I have a hard time rating SAW II. It's a tough album to compare to anything, really. Either you want to hear 2.5 hours of dreamy surreal synth stuff or you don't.

frogbs, Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:52 (seven years ago) link

funny, nobody rated Drukqs back then.. do people still think it's a bad album?

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:59 (seven years ago) link

I particularly like the track that sounds like snake charmer music,

This one gave me a serious full-on audio-sensory nightmare once upon a time.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link

xp Druqks is a bad album with some outstanding tracks. It's basically four different mini-albums on shuffle, innit? But yeah, I have trouble with it and always have.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:01 (seven years ago) link

I remember when Drukqs came out it wasn't well received by some, but I reckon that was mostly down to people thinking it was just thrown together or something, which of course it wasn't. For me, it's about the sprawl and the experience and the way the acoustic piano tracks rub up against the more frantic beat-driven stuff. His best album, IMO.

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:06 (seven years ago) link

no

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link

yes

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link

ok

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link

Drukqs is great! Better than I Care Because You Do, which is spotty for me. Probably like it better than Syro as well.

Cheetah EP is fantastic, too. "CIRKLON3" is a top 5 Aphex Twin track for me.

Handsome Bookor, Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link

druqks, man, I don't get it. It's a mostly unpleasant listening experience for me. I even tried slowing down the drill and bass tracks but they didn't become any more palatable to me.

a but (brimstead), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link

Every track on ICBYD is grand

a but (brimstead), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:53 (seven years ago) link

ICBYD is the shit. No way is it the bottom of the heap (with).

andrew m., Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link

I reckon that was mostly down to people thinking it was just thrown together or something

lol no, i just don't enjoy listening to it very much

a but (brimstead), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:57 (seven years ago) link

nearly every lukewarm or negative review made mention of the fact that it was unfinished or wasn't intended to come out. I think that definitely colored the way a lot of people heard it at first.

frogbs, Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:01 (seven years ago) link

Absolutely! I still reckon that whole thing was a rumour put about by RDJ himself.

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link

ICBYD is my introduction to Twin as a full length. So classic!

SAW II is probably my favourite Aphex ambient release due to Lichen, Rhubarb and Blue Calx - all utter classics

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:57 (seven years ago) link


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