Let Us Now Praise Dave Q

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from the kraftwerk v. devo thread

Devo, for updating that N'awlins groove. (Don't believe me? Where d'ya think 'Working in a Coal Mine' came from?) For being the missing link between the Ventures and Slipknot. For being known as an electro- synth-whatevah noowave unit but still having an incredibly great drummer. For "Uncontrollable Urge", "Gut Feeling", "Smart Patrol", "Snowball", "Girl U Want", "Through Being Cool", "Beautiful World", "Speed Racer", "Peek-a-Boo", "Be Stiff", "Turnaround", and every cover version they ever did. For being a noisier, trashier, funnier and more American version of Roxy Music.

Kraftwerk = hippies. I can see them driving their VW van through Morocco, everything. Their beautiful tunes ("Radioactivity") were beautiful but they didn't have any kick-ass tunes and are thus responsible for trance music and all those besieged chrome-domes screaming about how there's still NOIZE assaulting their poor calibrated eardrums, get rid of it now, it's all the fault of the rockist conspiracy etc etc etc. Actually, fuck Kraftwerk and everybody who followed them. (I still like "Radioactivity" though, but I think somebody should do a really shitty version of it)

-- dave q (scrape10...), January 21st, 2002 8:00 PM.

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 June 2003 02:40 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
from Kings of Leon thread:

PRIMAL SCREAM - Give Up But Don't Give Out *****

What's it called when you 'sample' stuff, except actually 'play' it? Let's invent a new word! 'Recordcollected'! By nature of what they 'recordcollect' here 'Give Up' is the crucible of TRUE FANS who may be admitted into the inner sanctum of the mystery of the PS constellation of reference points. By exposing it to the light and thus risking evaporation they instead justify their way of making records by making it seem like the LISTENER is a conundrum, ie if somebody doesn't 'like' them then that means they don't like their 'record collection'. But who but a really sad person would dislike somebody on that basis? That's the question PS are asking and they drop the first and last hint with the genius intro to "Jailbait" (y'know, the two drum intros), although burying the stellar "Struttin'" near the end is also a nice touch, if a bit cruel and malicious, but since when has that ever bothered me? A masterpiece.
-- dave q (scrape10...), July 16th, 2003.

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 September 2003 04:05 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
from "They Parted Ways with Nigel Godrich for This?"

'vocals should be louder' = 'i should stick to acoustic singer-songwriters'!! They are THE STROKES. See the 'S' on the end? Like it's a band, there's five of them and the voice in a band is another 'instrument'. The great thing about studios is you can mix them anyway you want! It's 'The Strokes', not 'Julian Casablancas Recites Poems in Tribute to Elliot Smith'!! I've spent so much time defending this record that I'm almost dreading actually hearing it, but these criticisms are just WEIRD! Like yer grandmother saying "b-b-but [asthmatic whine] I can't make out what he's s-s-saying!!!"
-- dave q (scrape10...), October 30th, 2003.


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See, they were 'tight' w/ the producer, so I assume they had some say in how it sounded. So to say 'I like the Strokes but not the production' makes no sense whatever! The production IS the band! Like saying, "Honey you're beautiful but you really need a fuckin' facelift!"
-- dave q (scrape10...), October 30th, 2003.

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 30 October 2003 20:29 (twenty years ago) link

Dave's advice column on "Proven By Science" has been the highlight of my week.

Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 30 October 2003 20:35 (twenty years ago) link

Dave in general is a highlight of life. Why didn't he show up for the Wedding FAP? :-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:09 (twenty years ago) link

hail!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 31 October 2003 01:57 (twenty years ago) link

I will forever remember the words 'Oberheim OBX' because it was officially 'the FIRST APPEARANCE of a synthesiser on a Queen album'('The Game'). Not strictly 80s synth-pop I know but the first couple seconds of this disc is the most synth-qua-synth synthness of anything ever, it's like "WE ARE NOW CHAMPIONS OF THE SYNTH!!!" Just totally overbearing in that we're-the-first-to-every-use-this!!! overkill fashion. (It's the intro to "Play the Game" if anyone has the greatest hits compilation) Even better, it has nothing whatever to do with the rest of the song. The local minor-league hockey team used it as intro music for about 8 years, I think it took over from the '2001' theme, it's that kind of synthness
-- dave q (scrape10...), October 30th, 2003.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 31 October 2003 08:48 (twenty years ago) link

Dave Q and Vic Fluro are my new Godz.

Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:14 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
Pram makes the walls spin around really slow, and I have to go and lie down, it's a hot summer day and I'm age 7 and I have just eaten 16 scoops of pistachio. Because I had this idea that picking the flavour with the longest name would make me seem more sophisticated among my peer group. Good job I liked it, and this isn't an entirely unpleasant sickness, because it means I can go and lie down in the quiet room away from all of their silly banter, but they won't think I'm a wet or a sissy because they saw me eat all the ice cream. It's like a 'Rug Rats' version of 'Cool Hand Luke'
-- dave q (scrape10...), January 12th, 2002

etc, Wednesday, 10 December 2003 21:17 (twenty years ago) link

sterling linked to this today, should be here:
"Cheech & Chong's Next Movie"

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 11 December 2003 03:16 (twenty years ago) link

In my corner of mullet-land, AOR/FM rock (of which 'buttrock' is but one strand) held unchallenged cultural hegemony, yet there were as many factions and subgroups as in dance music, and as many unspoken rules and hierarchies as in traditional Japanese society. In brief -'metal' (Priest, Maiden, AC/DC, Van Halen pre-'1984', Scorpions)was the domain of stoners and air-guitarists, the outdoor keg party not the house party. Metallica was the furthest point left of this spectrum, anything beyond (death metal, etc,) was strictly the province of serial killers, though this tribe could also be found stretching out with Crimson, Floyd, Zappa, Rush etc., tho nothing 'punk' (Motorhead NEVER caught on in the 'heartland'), which was strictly for 'English faggots'(pretty funny coming from Priest fans).
As these types grew up and had kids with porn-star names, the posters came off the walls and they moved further rightward along the spectrum into buttrock proper, Non-Aspirational variety - i.e. 'classic rock', the great and terrible unwashed lost Confederate army, disdained by all for their going gently into that endless night of predestined mookness. ZZ Top (who I luv!), Skynyrd, Molly Hatchet, BTO, Eagles, Allman Bros etc, with some crossover into country (Steve Earle was massive in Western Canada). Bob Seger OK, Bruce Springsteen not OK. The Aspirational variety (i.e., the ones who had ambitions to be department manager at Tire Town, as opposed to staying in the mail room) manifested their social-climbing ways by listening to music with keyboards and smooth tenor vocalising, Foreigner, Styx, Journey, Night Ranger, Survivor, and the buttrock uber-god-kings Bon Jovi, with crossover into adult-lite (Bolton, Fleetwood, Collins). Higher level of social status reflected by cleaning out the interior of the Camaro every so often. Litmus test for music - could it be played at the local softball game?
Buttrock Rosetta Stone - Grand Funk Railroad, "Closer to Home". Secret Rulers of Buttrock Shadow Galaxy - 38 Special. (I'd like to know how many buttrockers have had 'Hold on Loosely' played at their wedding.) Oddball Brian Wilson figure of this genre - Billy Squier.
-- dave q (scrape10...), September 10th, 2001.

Clarke B., Thursday, 11 December 2003 06:42 (twenty years ago) link

I wouldn't presume to be able to write like he does in a million years, so I'll describe - unfortunately, the scene in I picture is a rather sad one. He's wandering through the house, alone, after screaming at Patti, who is chiding him after another father-son row. "Why are you so hard on that boy, Bruce?" "The kid's got to learn not to talk so much. Say the wrong thing in this world to the wrong person, you can get killed. He's got to learn, don't you see?" "Bruce, you're starting to sound like your own..""That's enough." Bruce would never hit her, he's not Jackson Browne, so what he does is pick up a vase and launches it at the platinum 'Tunnel of Love' disc on the wall and storms out. (It had to be that one, there's no rage like the rage of someone who thought they had that adult stuff figured out until life did one of its inside-out flip- flops on your ass again.) But he can't go out. That would mean driving, and driving reminds him of those early songs of freedom and later songs of desperation, all of which he now wishes he'd never written, especially now that there's a war on and everyone out there is singing his songs without knowing what they're about. He wishes he'd never written them because they made sense of other people's lives and not his. The biz is like that, you give everything and they miss the difficult parts and distort the parts they like to suit themselves. Well, fair's fair after all. If he could take bubblegum garage trash and turn it into 'Darkness', then why can't the popsters take 'Darkness' right back and turn it into Garth Brooks? Sure, it's the most rational and understandable thing in the world, but it still hurts. Ah well, there's worse things that happen, thinks Bruce. He's calmed down a bit now that Patti's out of earshot. No problem making up to her, I'll just show up at the studio one day when she's doing an album, long enough to get a producer credit and maybe move 1,000 more units, 999 more than if I don't.
After a few cans of Bud work their predictable magic, Bruce decides not to wait, and make up with Patti right now. Beer is so good for that, even if one's reasons for wanting a post-beer reconcilation are somewhat suspect. She's having none of it. Maybe she gets off on being a redhead. "Bruce, I'm serious. You have to talk to that boy like a human being, he's afraid to come home." "Ah, fuck it." Bruce picks up the phone. "I'm gonna call my old man and go out for some beers. He's a stand-up guy, doesn't make me listen to this kind of emotional bullshit." Patti in his face. "BRUCE YOU NEED TO TALK TO YOUR SON! Not sit in a bar talking about baseball with some old Irish drunks who you always hated..." "DON'T SAY THAT ABOUT MY OLD MAN! HE DID THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HE HAD TO! MADE A MAN OUTTA ME!" But now this is the rage of the disoriented, not of the secure - dangerously close to getting out of control. There is still one heavy object on the table - but where to aim? He's got selective beer vision now. There it is, on the platinum 'Darkness' disc, side one, track two. "Adam Raised a Cain". Bingo. He collapses into his seat, muttering, "I wish I had cold blood. Maybe I do. Maybe I always did. Ahhh, fuck. Nobody understands me. Nobody. Ever. I have the dumbest fans in the world. My band are all cretins. For example, Miami Steve thinks he can sing and Max Weinberg thinks he can play jazz. Everyone thinks I'm a scam just because back in the 70s I wanted to hang out with more interesting people, how was I supposed to know it would look like a press mafia using me as a dupe? And that time I decided to stop writing about and for other people and write about MYSELF, everybody including the diehard fans - fuck 'em, they probably think 'Racing in the Streets' is an ode to the Petty brothers - ignored it, or got embarassed by it and the 'East of Eden' allusion and the Otis Day & His Knights- derived music - and what the fuck is so wrong with that, at least unlike some other chirper/cleffers I could name who might or might not be James Taylor with his 'Steamroller' shit I don't fall flat on my ass doing funky garage music - and now, irony of ironies, that fucking song is coming back to mock me. Fuck me and fuck my own records. Guess I'll call my old man." Independence Day has come and gone, and it was a weird one this time in America, but there's the same hot blood flowing thru their veins, after all. In fact, he's got a plan, maybe when the kid rolls in tomorrow morning he'll give him a copy of an old English punk single called "Gary Gilmore's Eyes" as a present. Kids like that kind of stuff. He likes it too, it's sort of like 'Nebraska' except not as embarrassing as listening to your old man's record. That can wait another thirty years or so, when Cain is released from the East of Eden Reformatory, having been rehabilitated into society, looking back on his glory days, and I'll stop here before any more hokey song titles creep in.
-- dave q (scrape10...), July 25th, 2002 9:00 PM.


Shit, I didn't actually answer the question did I. Sorry
-- dave q (scrape10...), July 25th, 2002 9:00 PM.

bad jode (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

If something is owned by the type of person who goes mental about fingerprints on a jewel case then it is usually coffee-table. Vinyl is one thing, that's 'collectors', but jewel-cases, there's something seriously anal going on. (re Lemon Jelly - recommended to me once by somebody who 'read my aura' and then said VERY sternly, "You listen to a lot of metal. I can tell. It is not good for you. You need...hmmmm...Lemon Jelly. Eagle-Eye Cherry too.")
-- dave q (scrape10...), December 4th, 2003.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 14 December 2003 02:03 (twenty years ago) link

anyone who tells dave q that metal isn't good for him needs to be taken out back and SHOT

bad jode (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 14 December 2003 02:54 (twenty years ago) link

Use of the word 'anal' contributes to blind acceptance of bogus Freudian mythology that ppl seem to think is more valid than astrology for some reason.
dave q, March 29th 2003

If something is owned by the type of person who goes mental about fingerprints on a jewel case then it is usually coffee-table. Vinyl is one thing, that's 'collectors', but jewel-cases, there's something seriously anal going on. dave q, December 14th, 2003.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 14 December 2003 05:04 (twenty years ago) link

(Compare and contrast my own proclamation that henceforth the phrase 'politically correct' should be replaced by 'politically positioned', followed by my many uses of 'politically correct' and none of 'politically positioned'.)

(I would like to take this opportunity to recommend that 'back slapping' henceforth always be replaced by 'back assessment'.)

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 14 December 2003 05:12 (twenty years ago) link

Momus - this thread is not about you.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 15 December 2003 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

I think dave q was talking literal anuses in the latter quote.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:59 (twenty years ago) link

I wonder if he was being literal about progeny in his stylus magazine review. Somehow I think he'd care about parenting.

youn, Monday, 15 December 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

"FREUD REVEALED TO BE PRETENTIOUS CRAP." Bless Dave for making that clear for the laypeople.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 15 December 2003 22:20 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
seriously, the greatest thing he's done yet: http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=1671

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 29 January 2004 07:34 (twenty years ago) link

nearly in tears after the first paragraph.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 29 January 2004 09:45 (twenty years ago) link

I nearly died when it landed in my inbox then other day.

Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Thursday, 29 January 2004 10:05 (twenty years ago) link

If this is not included in the next Da Capo anthology then the world is dead.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 29 January 2004 10:11 (twenty years ago) link

I fear the world is dead.

Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Thursday, 29 January 2004 10:16 (twenty years ago) link

*still laughing* Ah, Mr. Q. You are a genius, sir.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:04 (twenty years ago) link

dave q isnt David Quantick is he?

unsure, Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

Most assuredly not.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

Good god no!

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:06 (twenty years ago) link

ah. thank you.

happy now, Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:06 (twenty years ago) link

I thought that at first as well....

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
Actually having sex = dud, it's getting to tell everybody you got some pussy that's cool.
-- dave q (scrape10...), July 30th, 2001 1:00 AM.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 13 May 2004 08:19 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Hey newbie trolls! THIS is how it's done.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 20 October 2005 07:08 (eighteen years ago) link

that Sugar Ray/Third Eye Blind thing still makes me fall out of my chair

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 20 October 2005 07:09 (eighteen years ago) link

34 Hours without weed is damn solid throughout

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 20 October 2005 07:18 (eighteen years ago) link

(Dave's posts are, I mean)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 20 October 2005 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link

for instance,

I don't smoke alone by choice, I just wake up earlier than most people

-- dave q (scrape10...), January 31st, 2005. (listerine)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

The A.M.’s debut is more Human Highway than V.G. though. That was the Neil Young flick with Devo as a radiation clean-up crew. The tracks here are a series of sneaks squirting symphonic curlicues onto a new-wave muffin tray with the doughy shit taken out for maximum thin-ness of tone and at its best reminds me very much of Cars tunes like “Dangerous Type” or “All Mixed Up”. Making a glam version of On the Beach is a great idea. Every dying off-interstate town has at least one resident who painted their nails once and never added another coat so they have chipped bluish residue on their fingers that looks like they slammed a car door on them.

Fucking brilliance.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
'Eliminator' itself proves that (electroclash) = (the New Rock) which also solves the 'indie trucker hat' thing, altho possibly not in a way the hipsters will necessarily like
-- dave q (scrape10...), June 18th, 2003.

etc (esskay), Monday, 18 September 2006 07:45 (seventeen years ago) link

“Trangression” is a backhanded anti-indie construction revealing the Strokes and Flaming Lips as the same people

You're all right, that AM review quite simply shone (and had me in minor hysterics). I wish the dude posted more; I haven't really seen him about. :(

Shall now return to the infamous Absolution review with an open mind...

Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Monday, 18 September 2006 08:07 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

dave q to be interviewed by ME and MARK S on the radio!!!

broadcasting this Tuesday on Resonance 104.4 FM at 10pm GMT

podcast to be available here --> http://freakytrigger.co.uk/slugoftime

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 24 April 2008 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link

this is GO

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 11:43 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

revive!!!!!

geeta, Sunday, 12 June 2011 01:12 (twelve years ago) link

KROKUS - Stayed Awake All Night

The Americans have spoken! The world will not be made smaller by computers but by grinding gears and great oil-burning engines. It’s not about security or secularisation, it’s about keeping the motorik running. The reason electronic pop music never became culturally dominant in the demonised heartland is that synth duos didn’t have large trucks loaded with equipment backing up to venues. The future was not designed by Kraftwerk but by Bachman-Turner Overdrive, although this 1983 BTO cover by a Swiss band incorporates “Metal on Metal”, except with volume-swell mirages evolving into a circular guitar pattern like the lights of the city coming into view after driving through the methamphetamine night. The DEA claims that “methamphetamine is attractive to people in rural communities because labs can be set up in abandoned barns”, when the real reason is that you have to drive about three hours to get anywhere! Those eerie green night-vision Iraq broadcasts are a good approximation of how rural people actually see things, especially during the nocturnal segments of their 96-hour days. The album this appears on is called ‘Headhunter’, and was apparently recorded at ‘Bee Jay Studios’!

--dave q, 2004

geeta, Sunday, 12 June 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

missed out on hearing sinker & dave q on the radio???? :(

ysi tracer?

brodie_odie_dope (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 12 June 2011 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

think you have been praising him for some time, geeta

i've enjoyed all these revives

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Sunday, 12 June 2011 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

^Yes

brodie_odie_dope (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 12 June 2011 02:38 (twelve years ago) link

hey brodie - it's linked on this page (it's the story called "the red brain") -

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/slugoftime/

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 12 June 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

got it thx Tracer

symbol of the paramount chaos (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 12 June 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

re: http://freakytrigger.co.uk/slugoftime

dave q has a great voice. drawly and swaggering, like a literate garfield. id expected a sharp quick snappy voice, quite surprised

NI, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link


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