I think the point was that it would be more lasting and sensible to reject an "excessively consumeristic life" than to merely maintain it in a way that makes it more tolerable.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, January 22, 2019 5:07 PM (yesterday)
this is kinda like my "waiting for the revolution" type anarchist friends that don't see the point of voting or getting involved in any form of activism that doesn't result in overthrowing capitalism, the patriarchy, etc.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:27 (five years ago) link
lol what? It's nothing like that.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link
it kind of is because you are going to accumulate things and clutter and stuff you don't need because that is life in America, sorry.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link
or stuff you want for a while and then don't want -- consumerism is like gravity at this point -- sorry, this is just how I feel and also true
― sarahell, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:32 (five years ago) link
Buying behavior can just as much be altered as hording behavior. Of course no TV show is going to focus on not buying stuff though /trench
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:34 (five years ago) link
imo it's a trickle-down effect, by making you reconsider what you want to keep it makes you reconsider what you've been buying, and what you'll buy in the future
― omar little, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link
whether you buy it yourself, or receive it as gifts from well-meaning family members, like YMP's, you are gonna end up with a bunch of stuff you end up not wanting ... maybe not as much, but ...yeah, I challenge you to create an anti-clutter force field in yr home to prevent it from getting in.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link
Oh well for sure it can't be 100% stopped, I understand that well having a 3yo and a 7yo. We have a policy of throwing away all goodie bag junk after they go to sleep for example.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link
there’s kind of a Say’s law to clutter imo; having a tiny apartment helps. people with houses seem to love filling them up with random crap. my sister has an entire room in her house that’s just ‘storage’ (enormous piles of junk)
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link
I have an anti-clutter forcefield. It was work though.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link
Plus it helps that my spouse was a techno hippie and he cleans his shit up like an adult.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:46 (five years ago) link
having a tiny apartment helps. people with houses seem to love filling them up with random crap. my sister has an entire room in her house that’s just ‘storage’ (enormous piles of junk)
yeah!!! i remember when real estate ppl started selling the concept of the "bonus room" -- where the bonus room really was just a room to put piles of junk so the rest of the house could look fashionably tidy. otoh, I know plenty of people who live in small apartments that rent storage units.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link
Yeah was just talking about that with H -- we are a musician and artist and we always talk about wanting a house to have space for doing music and art. We just visited another musician/artist couple who had moved to a house with extra rooms, but they had managed to fill the extra rooms with crap and still not have space for music and art.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link
i just recently made more room in my apartment for music stuff -- such that, in theory, i could set up my drums in my living room -- which maybe i will do, however the downstairs neighbors would have an issue with me practicing them
― sarahell, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:58 (five years ago) link
Buy them earplugs
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link
But them in little gift baskets with a note on scented paper saying you’re going to be drumming now
hahahah
― sarahell, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:00 (five years ago) link
everyone hates the drummer neighbour
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link
a reason why I am not allowed to live in a house with a basement ever again
― Jaq, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link
Our last place had a garage and my husband was mad the new place didn’t - but guess what we never parked the damn car in there we just filled it with junk. Not having a garage means we def have accumulated way less junk in the last 5 yrs than we did in 2-3 yrs in the old place.
― just1n3, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 22:55 (five years ago) link
I do like doing the dishes tho, its a nice satisfying job that leaves the mind free
― your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 April 2021 01:23 (three years ago) link
One of the big choices I make is whether to do the dishes every day or every other day. I need to judge how long it will take me then choose a musical selection of that duration. If I overshoot or undershoot timewise, I'm annoyed.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 10 April 2021 01:35 (three years ago) link
doing the dishes is a highlight of my day to be sure
― Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Saturday, 10 April 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link
I'm starting to enjoy a good hoovering as well
― Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Saturday, 10 April 2021 14:08 (three years ago) link
The importance of house cleaning has been growing for me over time, but it is also a source of stress and frustration because the other members of my household do not give it the same priority.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 10 April 2021 14:26 (three years ago) link