2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

how long is the debate? 90 minutes?

more on mechanics: each candidate will have 90 seconds to respond to each question, followed by a 2 minute discussion period.

they'll need to do some airing out for sure if biden "releases the tension"

pretty strong:

yes ZS you're right. xxxpost i have no idea whether ifill or publisher came up w/ title. i just meant that the title does NOT suggest that it's all about obama, as joe sixpack contends.

― collardio gelatinous, Thursday, October 2, 2008 1:57 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if theres no argument running through the book abt why obama exemplifies this age then the title is misleading - if there is then the book is at least somewhat all about obama

regardless yr argument is pedantic completely ignoring the marketing angle which anyone one who wasnt parsing like an academic could plainly see was intended to imply that the book is about obama why dont you go ahead and buy it

i'm a pedant, what can i say.

who is that clip above

omg you guys are having the most stupid conversation ever

AFL-CIO's Richard Trumka on Racism and Obama xp

u r the stupidest conversation ever

Dear Journalists,

We’re writing to inform you that there’s an injustice being carried out in the late weeks of this presidential campaign, a blight that threatens the reputation of the entire journalistic profession. We’re referring to “gotcha journalism”—a failure on the part of the media to demonstrate the proper deference to the public officials who serve us, protect us, and put our country first—and we fear that it is spreading, like a worm through bad apples, among normally self-respecting, respectful reporters. Members of the press have lately been asking direct questions of a vice presidential candidate who has done little to deserve such questioning.

Yes, we know. It is horrifying.

link here: http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/hey_gotcha_caughtcha.php

omg you guys are having the most stupid conversation ever

At least we touched on the vital need for Joe Biden to be loudly flatulent at a public forum on TV.

omg you guys are having the most stupid conversation ever

i know! help!

you have GOT to stop talking about what the title of that book means. you should talk about something different, like is sarah palin's lipstick actually a TATTOO?

At least we touched on the vital need for Joe Biden to be loudly flatulent at a public forum on TV.

srsly if he did that it would touch off a landslide for O/B.

wait now i'm getting confused, a pitbull with lipstick, or a pitbull with tatoos?

u cant ask the most stupid conversation ever for protection from the most stupid conversation ever

i mean u can but it prob wont help

this is only the 19th most stupid conversation ever on the primary thread.

also who the fuck cares this is the internet

this is the most important conversation ever in the history of the age of obama

let's talk about gwen ifill's hair

how can we even gauge how stupid it is, 19th or otherwise, if it is so stupid?

McCain's campaign is all about keeping the Republican base and getting every vote Bush got in 2004. That is about as good as they can do this election year. All the 'stupid' things McCain's surrogates say sound different to those voters than to us.

It is also good to recall that Bush received more votes than any candidate had ever received up to that time, even though his margin of victory was not especially large. So, keeping that number of votes will put them into respectable territory.

The last part of their strategy will be pure Rove as well: limiting the total number of voters, especially in urban areas, by any means, fair or foul. If some method can be found to keep turnout low in big cities, they stand a chance.

I am a bit surprised that the Obama campaign has not tried harder to tap into the MASSIVE voter anger about the Wall Street bailout package. This issue is definitely a huge groundswell that could be harnassed better by his campaign. Although, a straight-ahead flaying of the bankers and bond traders would spook the markets something fierce, my estimate is that the markets are going into the tank, regardless.

will Gwen Ifill straighten her hair for tonight?

her hair's like, feathered, and as far as i'm aware has not changed in years and years

so we'll have a feathered moderator, a tatooed pitbull, and a farting pregaffer.

http://i33.tinypic.com/28lb8mw.jpg

I am a bit surprised that the Obama campaign has not tried harder to tap into the MASSIVE voter anger about the Wall Street bailout package. This issue is definitely a huge groundswell that could be harnassed better by his campaign. Although, a straight-ahead flaying of the bankers and bond traders would spook the markets something fierce, my estimate is that the markets are going into the tank, regardless.

He has mentioned all this, as recently as yesterday, but I think he's playing his cards close to his chest until the bailout bill politics have some more shape. I am enjoying seeing a politician with some circumspection, for once. The shoot from the hip impulses of Bush and McCain have served them SO well.

wait now i'm getting confused, a pitbull with lipstick, or a pitbull with tatoos?

I swear when I first read this I thought it said "A pitbull with tacos" and I was like "huh?"

getting every vote Bush got in 2004

good luck with that

This is the closest I could get to a GIS of "taco pitbull":

http://www.mainetoday.com/pets/dogslife/taco%20cat.bmp

There's also a pretty horrifying picture of a pitbull that lost a fite with a porcupine.

how can we even gauge how stupid it is, 19th or otherwise, if it is so stupid?

i keep track of it on a spreadheet, according to various signals and signs. i also factor in the poster's posting history, etc.

how is tacocat a palindrome

woah! tacocat is a palindrome!

L O L

A palindrome is a word, phrase, number or other sequence of units that can be read the same way in either direction

thx for playing

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Fcuk a Sarah Palin, anyway. She's a lame diostraction whom I have decided not to hate anymore because it's like being mean to a special needs kid. The culture war base of the party are idiots fired by resentment and envy who could be led by a couple of pieces of tinsel anywhere their masters wish. The real core issue that the moderately intelligent McCain supporters bring up is his experience. Time and again and with his choice of a VP candidate, he showed that while he may have plenty of that, he's woefully lacking in basic judgment.

good luck with that

^^^ not saying they will, but it is the only pond they're fishng in. This election, more than 2006, is going to change the landscape. I expect some highly punitive voting patterns to show up against most incumbents, but Republicans in particular.

i love that, "according to various signals and signs". xposts

hands up if you're not voting

i am voting, ny finally fixed my registration after months of me asking them to so now i can vote ^_^

pointlessly voting in a blue state it rocks

Vote the whole ballot down to the end and it becomes much less pointless.

god i hate serious people

http://gawker.com/5058219/did-john-mccain-and-pj-orourke-share-a-love-triangle-with-the-lovely-amy-lumet

^^^ this is an entertainingly pointless political "scandal" story but look at spongebob square boob!! this lady is so upsetting!

(bares chest) shoot if you must this old grey geezer, but spare the lols, he said.

haha i only come onto this thread for the gwen.jpgs to take a break from the never-ending political discussions and arguments and serious business that is all of the rest of my time, sorry. i am ruining the discourse.

oh wait i thought "tacocat is a palindrome" was supposed to be a palindrome and didn't look closer

YAAAAAAOOOOOOWWWWWW

McCain leaves Michigan