Mary J. Blige: Classic or Dud?

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I count over 20 top 20 R&B singles alone -- and a few peaked IN the 20s as well. There's no way you can cover all the good stuff on one disc without leaving out a few things.

It looks like you could POSSIBLY squeeze her top 20 R&B singles through No More Drama on one disc.

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Very, very true.

Plus we're seeing more and more best-ofs released within six-nine months of the last album.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

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she is a case of the emperor's new clothes when it comes to singing, isn't she? i find it somewhat comical that u2 did really thought that it was some kind of honour or even a good idea to do that 'one' remake with her - she's really not very good on it. her voice is shallow and going nowhere, and her trying to force it anyway doesn't help. but somehow, her often great beats and personal story of suffering has propelled he into near-iconic status. i find that it is - wrong.

Janus Køster-Rasmussen (Vesterbrunch), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

%did

Janus Køster-Rasmussen (Vesterbrunch), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

her voice is shallow and going nowhere

RODNEY HAVE TOO MANY EMOTHINS!!! (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 10:00 (seventeen years ago) link

her voice is shallow and going nowhere
-- RODNEY HAVE TOO MANY EMOTHINS!!! (rodneyjgreen...), Wednesday 10:00 AM. (later)

Seriously, what the fuck?

Funny that the first response to this thread was essentially "Get one Aretha" - I keep thinking that there'll be a time when Blige gets the same kind of classic status.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link

"shallow" is a really odd way to describe someone's voice (I don't fully understand), but I do find her constant self-examinations and self-absorption increasingly irritating (where I once thought this was largely what made her interesting). I don't know--a certain piousness or something has been creeping into her voice of late, and her recent singles in paricular (post-"Family Affair") have been really hard to listen to. I cringe at the part in "take me as I am" where she explains that the subject of the song is really her--like she needed to point that out to us (because, you know, it's not like any of her other songs have been all about MARY).

s w00ds (sw00ds), Friday, 24 November 2006 00:38 (seventeen years ago) link

ten months pass...

http://music.aol.com/popeater/2007/09/27/song-premiere-mary-j-blige-just-fine/

AMAZING.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

This is like the most joyous MJB song ever.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, this is great!

Jordan, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link

between this and the track w/ Chaka .... :D

deej, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Why are we just getting all the summer jams now?

The Reverend, Thursday, 27 September 2007 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Second single, in the new iTunes promos:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/5030291acb48d6/

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

classic but i never really liked any of her albums after my life. and the recent ones seem worse when shes trying to show she can do the same sort of stuff as her younger peers. that said, there was one disco-y song on the last one that had some good house remixes for it (better than the album version) but the original was pretty average. i just think she needs better songs.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 9 July 2009 09:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Her new albums are as uneven as they ever were, but The-Dream/Ne-Yo stuff on Growing Pains is a very nice fit.

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2009 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i like how every new album has her saying how this time, shes *really* happy. sometimes it works as w/'just fine', where despite trying to make a joyous (if slightly hollow, not all that amazing) song, the usual sadness in her voice takes it somewhere slightly diff, but shes better singing sad, slightly tortured ish imo. ill still take whats the 411 over anything else shes done.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 9 July 2009 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link

"Til the Morning" is my jam off the last one. That "Bounce, Rock, Rollerskate" shit

Sarges B. Mackin! (The Reverend), Friday, 10 July 2009 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link

i like how every new album has her saying how this time, shes *really* happy. sometimes it works as w/'just fine', where despite trying to make a joyous (if slightly hollow, not all that amazing) song, the usual sadness in her voice takes it somewhere slightly diff, but shes better singing sad, slightly tortured ish imo. ill still take whats the 411 over anything else shes done.

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haha seriously. I'm going to write a Mary J. song called "I Want To Be Happy, But I Am Sad And Wish I Was Happier, But Wait, Now I Am Finally Happy (Let's See How Long It Lasts)"

hop up out the shed, turn my scag on (some dude), Friday, 10 July 2009 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link

haha. selfishly, i dont want her to ever be happy (sorry mary). i think getting back with k-ci could be the best thing for her music (not that i want her to get beaten or anything tho).

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 10 July 2009 11:47 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

http://twitter.com/maryjblige/status/5687818820

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 8 July 2010 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link

eesh

otmato (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

mr wrong

surm, Friday, 28 October 2011 01:51 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

Anyone own the new one?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 January 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link

yes, there are some great songs on it, it's much better than her last one. otoh it's not a great album qua album, not just cuz it's overlong (which you could have guessed) but because MJB doesn't commit to or appear to care about any particular aesthetic.

"no condition" and "empty prayers" are both absolutely brilliant though. "mr wrong" is an incredible single, drake aside.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 09:05 (twelve years ago) link

five years pass...

she really gave the songs on the new album the most generic self-affirmation titles possible for her best songwriting since 2005

lex pretend, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

best album since then too

kind of like she wants to really probe the essence of what these clichés mean?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

A rockcrit friend said the same thing. I still prefer Growing Pains and I iked about half of The London Sessions.

I'm quite taken with the Sullivan cowrites and the title track.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link

this is SO MY SHIT RN

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

The Jazmin Sullivan co-writes and the DJ Camper productions (he and Sullivan work together on some of these) really sound great

curmudgeon, Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link

Sullivan was the lead writer for these four songs on Mary J. Blige's album "Strength of a Woman," and sang backup vocals on the first three of them: "Thick of It," "Set Me Free," "Glow Up," and "Thank You."

curmudgeon, Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link

I wonder if any of these cuts are going from the Billboard Adult RnB chart to any of the other r'n'b or pop ones?

curmudgeon, Monday, 15 May 2017 13:54 (six years ago) link

http://www.billboard.com/artist/309851/mary-j-blige/chart?page=1&f=379

"I am" in 2010 I think was her last song to cross over to the top 100. "Thick of It" from the new one was top of the adult R'n'b chart and hit 12th on the r'n'b songs chart.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

i heard "thick of it" on the mainstream r&b station once or twice but obviously not enough. the adult r&b station played it a ton tho. mainstream and adult airplay are combined for the r&b/hip-hop airplay chart, where it peaked at #5.

dyl, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link

Saw her live tonight. She did a powerful take on "No More Drama"-- was really testifyin.' "Thick of It" and a few others from the new one also sounded strong. On some older cuts she let the mostly female crowd sing many of the verses. Her 3 women backing singers and the band were good as well.

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 May 2017 03:47 (six years ago) link

1 costume change and lots of talk about self-affirmation and relationships (it came across sincere)in the hour and a half gig

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 May 2017 14:08 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I like the new one better than the London one, but haven't listened to the latter in a bit.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 15 June 2017 03:45 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Just discovered her debut album What’s the 411 and can’t stop playing it. Where has this been all my life? Her voice is so beautiful!!

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 19 December 2019 01:43 (four years ago) link

She's neither classic nor dud. She's okay, sometimes a bit dull, but she's had her moments. Family Affair is her best one by miles.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link

don't over look the second album! my life; not the remixes (even though that one's pretty good too). i think it's even better than 411.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 19 December 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

and Mary is awesome, especially if you have trouble w/her.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link


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