also wonderful are the 'all day', 'haloween (remix)' and 'nature of love' 12"s on wax trax where you can hear the development from synth pop to gargantuan industrial drums taking shape.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
The videos for that album, another matter entirely. ;-)
Gregg Araki, of all people, turned me onto Ministry in 1988 via an LA Weekly review of Rape and Honey. "All right," I thought, so I picked it up. "EURGH! What is all this noise! Pass." But I didn't get rid of it, and it slowly dug into my system, so by the time Mind came out I was well primed. Missed that tour, unfortunately, but did finally get to see them on Lolla 92, which was fucking goddamn fantastic (and though Gibby joined them onstage for "TV Song," they did *not* do "Jesus Built My Hot-Rod," the evening's one disappointment -- great rampage through "Supernaut" made up for it, though). After that, they spiralled off into not much, but Linger Fickin' Good had its points on the RevCo front.
What's wrong with "Cannibal Song," though? It's just them trying to be PiL with Chris Connelly as John Lydon -- seems to work.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Replace "work" with "fail utterly, making you want to build a time machine expressly so that you could go back to the delivery room and punch all of the mothers in the face at the moment when these tools were born" and you're approaching the level of disdain I have for that song. It's a static dirge with frightmarish vocals that seems to go out of its way to be stupid and annoying.
― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
it's also a shame that jourgensen ruined most skinny puppy tracks he touched.
the "incase you didn't feel like showing up" video, is that the one with ogre and jello in it?
― dyson, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Siegbran Hetteson, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― bnw, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
I really like about half of each of the _Land_ and _Mind_ albums - but in spite of liking NWO I never bought _Psalm_ : is it much the same as those 2, or were they getting more Metally and less Machiney ?
― Ray M, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
The problem with Ministry is that they started making too much money, which probably led to too much drugs.
― earlnash, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Siegbran Hetteson, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 15 February 2003 12:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 15 February 2003 22:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Saturday, 15 February 2003 22:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (LOOK UP TWO POSTS FFS) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― dali madison's nut (donut), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
I thought that was a joke.
― Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (Still Not Interested In Them Anymore) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/music/2003/05/images/download_150.jpg
― dali madison's nut (donut), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Ministry `06 (with Tommy from Prong and Raven from KJ)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/maxmal/sonicranch2.jpg
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer: Deutsch Bag (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― howell huser (chaki), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Tommy Victor did play in Danzig as well, yeah, but I think that was more out of financial necessity.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link
and I don't get it- I saw Lazarus live over the summer and his set was 100% bouncey electro-house....
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link
"The REVOLTING COCK."
"Heh heh, yeah, must be some strip show.. y' know.. with strippers."
― dali madison's nut (donut), Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― dali madison's nut (donut), Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm tempted to do a C/D for 'Filth Pig'. I hated it on release and never bothered checking out any of their stuff after that, but once in a while songs pop up on shuffle and they're usually pretty awesome (e.g. last night "Brick Windows")
― baaderonixx, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link
twitch's rare mentions in this thread is a crime.
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link
WHERE YOU AT NOW
― damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Saturday, 29 August 2009 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link
land of rape and honey 4-EVAH
― crappy, use her name (latebloomer), Saturday, 29 August 2009 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link
USE IT A WHILE AND IT'S OVER THE SHOULDER
― damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Saturday, 29 August 2009 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link
You know, I actually really liked Rio Grande Blood -- not The Last Sucker quite so much though it was still certainly better than a lot of their mid-period (ie Filth Pig and onward).
Just bought Twitch again and I like it okay. Parts of it didn't age well at all.
― Sean Carruthers, Saturday, 29 August 2009 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link
"Everyday Is Halloween" is the song that made me notice Ministry but "Over the Shoulder" is the song that made me LOVE them (specifically that 12" version)
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
DEAD CATS HANGING FROM POLES
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
nobody with a good car needs to be justified
lol never realized this is from Hughes' Wise Blood before (such a great movie)
― Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
it is! love brad dourif so much in that movie. huston's though. john hughes' wise blood is a dream yet unfulfilled...
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
Uhh
http://i41.tinypic.com/34o8roj.jpg
― this fucking guy that i speak to you about (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 04:17 (twelve years ago) link
whaaaat the fuck is that
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 04:28 (twelve years ago) link
New album, apparently. For some reason.
― this fucking guy that i speak to you about (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 04:38 (twelve years ago) link
It's the worst album I've heard this year so far.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
it looks like it
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 05:35 (twelve years ago) link
It has to be bad. A Republican is currently not president.
― ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 08:13 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUhrBBsNTTA
Uhh. Al Jourgensen is slowly turning into Lisa Bonet's grandmother.
― benernienie taumaupin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:07 (twelve years ago) link
I would like to hear the half-assed Killing Joke melodic bit in the chorus rescued from this song and put in a better one.
― benernienie taumaupin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:08 (twelve years ago) link
From the cheap laughs department:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/163310_10151744919665167_1837077591_n.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
Top-rated YouTube commenter on 99 Percenters bringing harsh truths:
Wow.... Just.... Wow. Been a fan through all incarnations since '86. Seen them live a ton of times.. Probably my favorite band of all time. After watching this, ... I'm getting off the crazy train. I thought there were some good tracks on the album, but this just comes off as sheer fucking laziness. It was a great run Al, but please stay true to your word and put this band to bed. Fuck, I never thought I'd join the haters... But this does suck.
GunHed17 2 weeks ago 7
― Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
I have a copy of that doc that came out, "Fix" or "Fixed" or w/e...part of me is curious but the rest of me kinda knows this is a thing I probably don't need to watch
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
A lot of mid-80s industrial is pretty hard to listen to - not because it's too harsh or gritty in the intended way, but because it uses lame mid-80s drum machines and transposed, key-triggered samples.
It sounds like a lot of these bands thought they sounded edgy and counter-cultural, but in retrospect it all sounds like Anne Dudley playing hookey with Ferris Bueller.
― 3×5, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
what drum machines should they have been using instead? drum machines from the future?
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
uhhhh Land Of Rape And Honey still pummels me in the face with "lame mid-80's drum machines" also 2) that's not the problem and b) RONG
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
i LOVE lame mid 80s drum machines.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ministry-guitarist-mike-scaccia-dies-after-onstage-collapse-20121223
r.i.p.
― t_s (how's life), Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
Aww man. RIP. I was actually a fan of Rigor Mortis well before he joined Ministry, dude was pretty speedy.
― flared bass (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 23 December 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
After not having paid any attention to a Ministry album since Psalm 69 turned me off for good I was mildly curious to hear the new (supposedly last ever) album after reading Al saying that parts of it were inspired by Adrian Sherwood and would put King Tubby to shame on the dub front. Needless to say King Tubby can rest in his grave without having to worry that his techniques have been usurped by Al and Sherwood must be chuckling into his mixing desk at how bad it is. The "dub" bits make No Doubt seem like Prince Far I at his heaviest in comparison. Cod dub!
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
haha at you falling for it and checking it out!
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
There is never any compelling reason to listen to anything Ministry released after 1989.
― Bitch Fantastic (DJP), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link
yup, what a sucker! at least i maintain my *cough*youthful*cough* optimism / naiveté. xp
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
put King Tubby to shame on the dub front
this is just a shameful thing for anyone to claim
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
Well, King Tubby is dead, so maybe it's just a matter of parsing tense.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
Had no idea this was completed or released but man, some harrowing (heroin) stuff:
http://vimeo.com/91347991
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 October 2014 03:07 (nine years ago) link
No matter how tempted you are, do not try and read Al's book.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
Thanks for the warning. I'm always on the lookout for a good trashy drug band bio. What's bad about it?
― american tail/american pie (how's life), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, it's bad. I can't even remember enough about it to pick it apart, but it was just...dull.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link
It's dull because it's full of bullshit stories (some of which are patently not true) only told to make Al the greatest bestest drug taker ever. An awful lot of them have something "nearly" happen and there's a preponderance of casual racism, homophobia and rape culture that is sometimes glorified but at a minimum glossed over and excused with another anecdote where he has a token gay or black friend (invariably who he never mentions again).
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
i kind of almost enjoyed it even though i was fully aware it was BS. his treatise on economics at the end was complete and utter nonsense though; he patently thinks he's a lot smarter than he actually is or maybe he has genuinely fried his brain. i read chris connelly's book immediately after which is way better.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I read Chris Connelly's first but it seemed so skewed to making out Al was a complete dick that I thought I'd read this for balance. Instead it reinforces some of the conclusions you make from the other book.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link
everyone otm
― don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
So this week, Ministry (via Cleopatra Records) posted a previously unreleased live album on Bandcamp. It's called Live Necronomicon, and it's about 85 minutes long - there's a double vinyl edition that may already be sold out, and then a digital version. No CDs. Anyway, according to this piece on Slicing Up Eyeballs, it's basically the raw tapes from In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up, with a few Jello Biafra spoken-word bits and a version of Revolting Cocks' "Stainless Steel Providers" excised. Note that In Case... had a lot of studio overdubs, which are absent here, making the music much more overtly metallic and placing the vocals a lot higher in the mix. The set list includes their covers of Public Image Ltd.'s "Public Image" and Skinny Puppy's "Smothered Hope," and versions of Pailhead's "No Bunny" and "Man Should Surrender" and Lard's "The Power of Lard" and "Hellfudge." It's really good, and worth your nine bucks.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 7 July 2017 01:55 (six years ago) link
Chris Connelly lives by me. I see him all the time with his family, in full suburban dad mode.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 July 2017 02:03 (six years ago) link
Search: With Sympathy
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 7 July 2017 13:03 (six years ago) link
Ministry Visual History BookMinistry: Prescripture Announced Today
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Out December 6, Read About the Book via Rolling Stone Includes 7 inch of "(Every Day Is) Halloween (Acoustic)” featuring Dave Navarro (Jane’s Addiction)
The book features an introduction by Jello Biafra and exclusive quotes from members of Smashing Pumpkins, ZZ Top, Cheap Trick, NWA, Ramones, Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Megadeth, AFI, Slayer, Jane’s Addiction, Rammstein, The Flaming Lips, Devo, Butthole Surfers, Static-X, Anthrax, White Zombie, Death Grips, Bauhaus, Killing Joke, High on Fire, GWAR, Einstürzende Neubauten, Revolting Cocks, and many more! Various packages available for pre-order include copies autographed by Al Jourgensen and the author, Aaron Tanner and a 7” of the studio version of "(Every Day Is) Halloween (Acoustic)” featuring Dave Navarro (Jane’s Addiction)!
LIMITED-RUN OF 20009" X 9" casebound, pages TBDPUBLISHED: December 6, 2019PRE-ORDER: September 18, 2019ISBN: 978-0-578-56212-4
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link
Includes 7 inch of "(Every Day Is) Halloween (Acoustic)” featuring Dave Navarro (Jane’s Addiction)
that's a "no" from me, dawg
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link
^ otm
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link
only $150
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link
Al finally makes his peace with
― stirmonster, Monday, 7 August 2023 22:25 (eight months ago) link
....With Sympathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU6-uMVECRE
― stirmonster, Monday, 7 August 2023 22:26 (eight months ago) link