― Damian (Damian), Monday, 1 September 2003 02:08 (twenty years ago) link
― brg30 (brg30), Monday, 1 September 2003 17:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 1 September 2003 18:33 (twenty years ago) link
Never liked their music much, though the song "In The Meantime" was okay.
― unperson, Monday, 1 September 2003 20:54 (twenty years ago) link
That's the other way round, surely? Chaos AD was perceived as their sellout/bandwagonjumping album because they moved to the US and adopted the sound/songwriting that was popular in the US at the time (Biohazard/Pantera et al). A typical "me too" album, so to say...
― Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 1 September 2003 21:35 (twenty years ago) link
DESTROY: Paige playing for Bowie.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 September 2003 21:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 September 2003 21:43 (twenty years ago) link
― sean marvin (williamtell), Monday, 1 September 2003 22:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan J, Monday, 1 September 2003 22:32 (twenty years ago) link
I've seen it around on slsk and wasn't sure if it was a rarities album but i found the above article. So has anyone heard it?
― Beaker, Thursday, 29 July 2004 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 29 July 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link
When the show was over, I slipped on a patch of ice outside and landed right on my ass.
I hope this record sucks and sells peanuts.
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 29 July 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway yeah, listening to Monochrome. Not having heard anything since Betty, I'm sort of thrown by how shredded his voice sounds now.
Oh wait, the title track sounds like King's X. WTF?!
I'm not sure I want to finish this.
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 17 June 2006 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link
Helmet just didn't seem to be able to come up with enough good tunes after that one. Betty would about make a good EP.
I would have liked to seen them live back then, but never got around to seeing them play.
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Saturday, 17 June 2006 05:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Orange Pimp (Orange Pimp), Saturday, 17 June 2006 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 June 2006 09:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 17 June 2006 11:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 June 2006 12:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 17 June 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 June 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link
Page Hamilton has one thing to prove: "can he make another good record?"
Because that hasn't happened since Meantime.
He does have a right to be a grumpy old man. Garbage like Candlebox stole his gimmick and trademark riffs and hit platinum with them. And becuase they did, they got dated quick.
― Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Saturday, 17 June 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link
Not once have I ever heard a Candlebox song on the radio and thought "hmm, is this Helmet?"
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 17 June 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link
Dunno about that, but Page stole it from Prong in the first place, so it's all relative.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link
anyway...strap it on and meantime are classic.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link
Bwahahahaha
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Saturday, 17 June 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Candlebox's breakout hit had a hook that ripped off "In The Meantime."
― Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Sunday, 18 June 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Um, you've heard Prong, right?
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 18 June 2006 00:58 (seventeen years ago) link
it's true, that "heaven let your light shine down" turd they did
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link
that was collective soul not candlebox wasn't it?
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 18 June 2006 05:19 (seventeen years ago) link
its definitely better than Candlebox's hit at least! i can't even hardly remember what it sounds like.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 18 June 2006 09:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 09:29 (seventeen years ago) link
Ok anyways Helmet rules and Page is OTM here:"I hear so many bands that, to me, I can't distinguish between them," he said, talking about the current scene. "It's sort of like, 'Insert four guys with tattoos here.' And it's pseudo-hardcore or pseudo-punk rock or emo. It just seems like you get your 'Rock Star 101' manual and fill in the blanks. This music just doesn't interest me at this point in my life."
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 18 June 2006 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link
1. Bands who are influenced by Converge/Botch/Coalesce/Dilinger Escape Plan, but with simpler riffs and a tendency to break up the dissonance with cheesy stabs at melody. Alternating screaming and obnoxious sing-songy vocals. Sound like a cornier Deftones.
2. The more metallic-sounding bands with ripped-off In Flames/At the Gates riffage, also alternating screaming and obnoxious sing-songy vocals.
3. Bands rooted in "hardcore" but unabashedly pop-punk influenced as well. High-pitched, nasal vocals.
Of course none of these categories are exclusive or anything.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 June 2006 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 18 June 2006 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 June 2006 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link
"Or how about Finger Eleven, whose name must be a reference to some sort of creepy extra finger that only truly creepy people have. Their song "Drag You Down" has the NIN midtempo march of the slugs thingy down pat. The lyrics sound like stuff Trent Reznor writes down in the middle of the night to help him remember his dreams better: "Teething," "It's biting," "I'm bleeding." And the video itself, much like Spineshank's and a whole lot by other nü-by bands, takes place in one of those haunted machine shops that evoke NAFTA more than they evoke some blasted postapocalyptic vision of decay. Blame it on Einstürzende Neubauten, or maybe Janet Jackson. Or Helmet, whose prescient 1992 "Unsung" video introduced warehouse space, lockstepped dude-friendly Big Black riffs, skater shorts, and Dischordian X-estential vagueness to a generation of future Finger Elevens whose previous delvings into metal consisted of their big sister's Ratt collection. Anyway, Finger Eleven's bass player, like most bass players, has one of the lamest hairdos on earth. And the guitarist is still wearing X-tremely huge pants which everyone will agree are likeso over."
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link
He was in Tomahawk (he's on their first album, anyway) and going back a bit further he played drums on an album by the Mark Of Cain, who sounded a lot like Helmet's Australian cousins anyway.
― LC (Damian), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link
'betty' really does dip after the first four tracks (which are awesome). way too many tepid, 'nice-enough' snoozers deflating the energy of the thing.
― Charlie Howard, Friday, 31 August 2007 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Love exactly two Helmet songs: Impressionable and the 1st version of Born Annoying. Ha ha part is that both come from a demo that AmRep released against the band's wishes. Oh yeah, and they did a swell cover of Killing Joke's Primitive. Other than that, don't give a shit.
― Bob Standard, Friday, 31 August 2007 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link
'clean' is as good as any of the first four tracks on betty
― 6335, Friday, 31 August 2007 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link
their best song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y332UtRod_0
― Zeno, Saturday, 6 June 2009 01:00 (fourteen years ago) link
still reppin' for 'clean' in june '09
― 6335, Saturday, 6 June 2009 05:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Still reppin' for Aftertaste which is a pretty underrated record IMHO.
Saw Helmet play last year at the Waldrock-festival (which is the second or third biggest metalfestival in The Netherlands), and they were the best band of the day.
― Marty Innerlogic, Saturday, 6 June 2009 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link
He played on a Wire song from Object 47: "All Fours." Not sure he did anything that someone else couldn't have done, but it's a pretty nice track, although to be fair it sounds like Band of Susans with a different vocalist.
― dlp9001, Saturday, 6 June 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
what am I missing about this band?
― admrl, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4OKQShgiDk#t=6m11s
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 18 June 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link
fwd to 6:11http://bit.ly/ajosxb
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 18 June 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i've played my tape copy of meantime probably 300 times and it still sounds great!
― scott seward, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I just had this memory come back to me that when my family took me to Israel when I was 14 I was playing Meantime over and over again on my walkman and lusting after this girl on the tour bus. Jewish tours suck! Helmet Rules!
― Theodore "Thee Diddy" Roosevelt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Helmet on a Kibbutz. Helmet at Masada. Helmet at King David's Tomb. It was great.
― Theodore "Thee Diddy" Roosevelt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Unsung made the top 100 in the current ILM poll!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.drop-d.ie/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/helmet-meantime.jpg
fuckin the best...
― Stormy Davis, Monday, 9 May 2011 05:04 (twelve years ago) link
i would be curious to see a best of poll. listening to "so easy to get bored" over and over today for some reason. still sounds amazing!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
best of records or best of songs?cause if it's the first the winner is obvious isn't it?
― nostormo, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
― Theodore "Thee Diddy" Roosevelt (Hurting 2), Wednesday, August 4, 2010 11:24 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
sounds like a line from a Mark Leyner novel.
songs, obv!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
id vote in that
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
the problem is i'm lazy.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
are these guys touring again? sure i saw their name on a tokyo listings page.
― sam500, Thursday, 8 September 2011 04:02 (twelve years ago) link
"What people make the mistake of is saying, 'Well, I don't hear jazz.' I'm not playing jazz," he said. "It's not jazz. But I can hear the jazz influences. Name me one other band on the planet that's using a major-7 sharp 11 chord with a 13 in the chorus. None. This is my tuning. None. I guarantee it."
― mookieproof, Saturday, 22 December 2012 05:43 (eleven years ago) link
> Name me one other band on the planet that's using a major-7 sharp 11 chord with a 13 in the chorus
Shudder to Think
― Poliopolice, Saturday, 22 December 2012 06:29 (eleven years ago) link
this is fucking weird but I am listing to do make say think on spotify right now and p sure I just heard that song
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Saturday, 22 December 2012 06:35 (eleven years ago) link
chord I mean
also I bet there's chicago and yes songs with that chord in the chorus
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Saturday, 22 December 2012 06:36 (eleven years ago) link
I dig helmet and all I guess, but claiming ownership of a chord is like some next level shredder asshole nonsense.
― tiniest homeless (jjjusten), Saturday, 22 December 2012 06:41 (eleven years ago) link
Pity he didn't put so much care and thought into his crappy vocal melodies or Helmet would have been much better.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 22 December 2012 09:10 (eleven years ago) link
C'mon, this is just a Foo Fighters song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkFMvststF0
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:42 (seven years ago) link
awful
― Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link
i'm not gonna listen to that. MEANTIME 4EVER.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link
i got this double band of susans Cd comp thing not long ago and i don't think i knew that there was this weird proto-helmet phase of that band. it's not great stuff and sounds really weird next to older cooler band of susans stuff. which i like a lot.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link
or maybe not even proto-helmet. i never heard the last couple of records and page isn't even on them now that i look. anyway, weird beefy grunge-era band of susans.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
love agenda and the word and the flesh are still essential though. they sound even better to me now than they did back then.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link
I've come around on Helmet since 2003, when I posted way upthread about seeing Caspar Brötzmann Massaker open for them. Now I have their first four albums in my iPod. I've still never heard the album Page and Caspar did together. I should get around to that one day.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 13 October 2016 00:34 (seven years ago) link
Scott, the last BoS album is pretty great. There's at least one essential song Pardon My French, and I pretty much love the whole thing, though the opening track is on the gothy side (which might not be a problem for many). I'm sure you can find a cheap copy...
― dlp9001, Thursday, 13 October 2016 02:00 (seven years ago) link
i don't think I ever knew Page Hamilton was in Band of Susans
― akm, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:14 (seven years ago) link
I think it is possible to mix skronky guitar with Beatle harmonies, but that new Helmet tune is not the recipe.
― earlnash, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:51 (seven years ago) link
Meantime is sounding hard as hell atm
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 May 2023 14:42 (eleven months ago) link
Meantime makes me want to pump iron
― brimstead, Thursday, 18 May 2023 15:07 (eleven months ago) link
I’m kind of amazed by how few people are vouching for Strap it On. I still think it’s their one truly perfect album
― beamish13, Thursday, 18 May 2023 17:54 (eleven months ago) link
I listened to Strap It On the other week and it was OK but their run from Meantime through Aftertaste is the good stuff.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 18 May 2023 17:58 (eleven months ago) link