2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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i think the only people who are taking this paranoid bullshit and believing it are the ones who are already sold on palin, her knowledge of nothing beyond salmon recipes be damned

allow me to direct you to the title of the book

allow me to direct you to the content. and the title refers to the "age of Obama" (as context for the subject matter), not Obama himself

the age of obama seems to be the context for her argument eh

maybe the book which neither of us has read really only has one chapter to do w/obama - in that case it has a misleading title

but anyway go right ahead and directed me to the content

i like that nate silvers starting beef w/ other polling sites, good times

i would like to see the content

ralph stanley steps up

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Ifill said Obama's story, which she has yet to write... is only a small part of the book, which discusses how politics in the black community have changed since the civil rights era. Among those subjects is Colin Powell, secretary of state in the Bush administration...

Although Malkin raised the topic of Ifill's impartiality the day before the debate, the PBS journalist said that Time magazine noted she was writing a book in August, and that it has been available for pre-sale on Amazon.com. The book also is mentioned in a Sept. 4 interview she gave the Washington Post.

ralph stanley steps up

wow. mark warner coming through?

already unavailable! xpost

which she has yet to write / she was writing a book in August

????

i saw one report that said it was due to be released on election day in which case its got to be all but done by now / amazon says february tho

in that case it has a misleading title

She has said that the title and the release date were the publishers' decision.

HEY THIS BOOKS ABT OBAMA!!!! lol j/k!

comments indicate Toby Keith also an Obama supporter?

maybe the book which neither of us has read really only has one chapter to do w/obama - in that case it has a misleading title

No. The subtitle is "Politics and Race in the Age of Obama". This suggests that the primary subject is not the individual Barack Obama, but rather a broader historical moment. That she calls it "the age of Obama" suggests that she sees his rise as exemplary of this historical moment, not that she'll spend her entire book on him.

the point of mccain and palin's beef is to pre-emptively defend any palin errors, to make note ("i'm just saying, is all") roger adultery style of the race element, and to play into the republican persecution complex. the conflict of interest thing is a distant fourth imo.

re: that new ad, is mccain actually trying to lower expectations for biden? how is that a good idea? the line about 7-11's is gaffe gold, but "ooh, he's gonna look stupid" seems like the wrong tack before a debate.

unless they're priming dittoheads

Ralph Stanley ad is teh awesome!!!

jho you know i love ya but ifill's been on the debate schedule since it was originally drawn up, and the negotiations would have been the proper time to contest that -- both campaigns agreed to have her moderate the vp debate months ago, so these last minute objections are pretty weak sauce

i mean, this is ignoring the obvious subtext that ifill is biased because she is BLACK

that is a terrible ad, tactically, it makes biden seem pretty loveably stupid

i also liked the wacky ragtime music

haha, that zany joe biden and what is he talking about!!! the background music in that ad, so precious

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Is it arch to point out that the content of Ifil's book is essentially irrelevant to anyone predisposed to believe in the 'media bias against Palin' meme? And that the title tells these people all they need to know?

biden should make a deliberate gaffe at the beginning of the debate, just to maybe innoculate himself against worse gaffes later on.

yah he should also joke about gaffes early on, then if he catches him making one during the debate he can channel reagan and go 'there i go again' and everyone will laugh and his minus will become a plus

pre-emptive gaffe

joe biden fan fic

the biden doctrine

how about he lets go a whimsical, tension-cutting fart

pre-gaffe.

That she calls it "the age of Obama" suggests that she sees his rise as exemplary of this historical moment, not that she'll spend her entire book on him.

Usually authors don't get to name their own books. That's the publisher's decision, based on what will sell.

how about he lets go a whimsical, tension-cutting fart

There's your Joe Sixpack.

o yah not misleading at all: the rise of this guy WHO SELLS A LOT OF BOOKS really exemplifies this historical moment

factiod the original title was AMERICA: COLIN POWElL HAS HANDSOME HAIR

who the fuck cares. unless she calls sarah a cracker, all this means is that the repubs will whine about reverse racism, which ain't gonna give that much of a sympathy bounce.

yes ZS you're right. xxxpost i have no idea whether ifill or publisher came up w/ title. i just meant that the title does NOT suggest that it's all about obama, as joe sixpack contends.

wrt to Ralph Stanley; did someone already mention that Merle Haggard endorses Obama? He was for W back in the day, then for Clinton in the primaries this year, but he's no PUMA.

ah bless ya mr stanley

ultimately i do trust ifill to do a fine job - but the debate committee or whoever they are shouldve aired this one out

how long is the debate? 90 minutes?

more on mechanics: each candidate will have 90 seconds to respond to each question, followed by a 2 minute discussion period.

they'll need to do some airing out for sure if biden "releases the tension"

pretty strong:

yes ZS you're right. xxxpost i have no idea whether ifill or publisher came up w/ title. i just meant that the title does NOT suggest that it's all about obama, as joe sixpack contends.

― collardio gelatinous, Thursday, October 2, 2008 1:57 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if theres no argument running through the book abt why obama exemplifies this age then the title is misleading - if there is then the book is at least somewhat all about obama

regardless yr argument is pedantic completely ignoring the marketing angle which anyone one who wasnt parsing like an academic could plainly see was intended to imply that the book is about obama why dont you go ahead and buy it

i'm a pedant, what can i say.

who is that clip above

omg you guys are having the most stupid conversation ever

AFL-CIO's Richard Trumka on Racism and Obama xp

u r the stupidest conversation ever