2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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ifill didn't write a book about obama

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

are you suggesting that her financial interest gets in the way? the one that led her to leave NBC for PBS?

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm with ice cream, and if a moderator wrote a book about mccain we'd all feel the same way

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

ifill didn't write a book about obama

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gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

ifill is writing a book about obama, right, got it. got my tenses switched up!

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

i wouldn't feel the same way because obama isn't desperately looking for excuses at this point.

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

well that's part of it, too. i mean they should have brought this up awhile ago if they had a problem

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

srsly if the moderator had written a book abt mccain that wouldnt make u uneasy

It very well might, which is why I might have taken the trouble to have an intern in my staff merely goggle her to see what came up.

Michael White, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

ifill is writing a book about obama, right, got it. got my tenses switched up!

no she is not writing a book about obama. she is writing a book about a new generation of black politicians, one chapter of which is about obama.

i think she should have disclosed the book to the commission. i also think - as do most people, most likely - that she's a liberal and obama supporter. no one here has a problem with her moderating the debate on that basis. i think, along with john mccain, that she is nevertheless a professional journalist, just like tom brokaw, who some have suggested is a mccain supporter.

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

The googles, they do nothing

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

merely goggles

i'm a shop btw (jeff), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

no she is not writing a book about obama. she is writing a book about a new generation of black politicians, one chapter of which is about obama.

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allow me to direct you to the title of the book: The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i wouldn't feel the same way because obama isn't desperately looking for excuses at this point.

If you've ever seen Ifill, she's a strenuously 'fair' reporter and moderator on the Newshour not some modern partisan hack, which is probably why McCain wanted her. Now he (and his supporters) just look like petulant whiners. Gov. Palin hasn't even fucked this up yet and they're complaining about the moderator.

Michael White, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

disclosure gets rid of all these problems. even britt hume trusts her.

caek, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

i think the only people who are taking this paranoid bullshit and believing it are the ones who are already sold on palin, her knowledge of nothing beyond salmon recipes be damned

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

allow me to direct you to the title of the book

allow me to direct you to the content. and the title refers to the "age of Obama" (as context for the subject matter), not Obama himself

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

the age of obama seems to be the context for her argument eh

maybe the book which neither of us has read really only has one chapter to do w/obama - in that case it has a misleading title

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

but anyway go right ahead and directed me to the content

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i like that nate silvers starting beef w/ other polling sites, good times

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i would like to see the content

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Ifill said Obama's story, which she has yet to write... is only a small part of the book, which discusses how politics in the black community have changed since the civil rights era. Among those subjects is Colin Powell, secretary of state in the Bush administration...

Although Malkin raised the topic of Ifill's impartiality the day before the debate, the PBS journalist said that Time magazine noted she was writing a book in August, and that it has been available for pre-sale on Amazon.com. The book also is mentioned in a Sept. 4 interview she gave the Washington Post.

Michael White, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

ralph stanley steps up

wow. mark warner coming through?

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

already unavailable! xpost

sleep, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

which she has yet to write / she was writing a book in August

????

i saw one report that said it was due to be released on election day in which case its got to be all but done by now / amazon says february tho

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

in that case it has a misleading title

She has said that the title and the release date were the publishers' decision.

Michael White, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

HEY THIS BOOKS ABT OBAMA!!!! lol j/k!

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

comments indicate Toby Keith also an Obama supporter?

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe the book which neither of us has read really only has one chapter to do w/obama - in that case it has a misleading title

No. The subtitle is "Politics and Race in the Age of Obama". This suggests that the primary subject is not the individual Barack Obama, but rather a broader historical moment. That she calls it "the age of Obama" suggests that she sees his rise as exemplary of this historical moment, not that she'll spend her entire book on him.

collardio gelatinous, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

the point of mccain and palin's beef is to pre-emptively defend any palin errors, to make note ("i'm just saying, is all") roger adultery style of the race element, and to play into the republican persecution complex. the conflict of interest thing is a distant fourth imo.

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

re: that new ad, is mccain actually trying to lower expectations for biden? how is that a good idea? the line about 7-11's is gaffe gold, but "ooh, he's gonna look stupid" seems like the wrong tack before a debate.

da croupier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

unless they're priming dittoheads

da croupier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Ralph Stanley ad is teh awesome!!!

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

jho you know i love ya but ifill's been on the debate schedule since it was originally drawn up, and the negotiations would have been the proper time to contest that -- both campaigns agreed to have her moderate the vp debate months ago, so these last minute objections are pretty weak sauce

i mean, this is ignoring the obvious subtext that ifill is biased because she is BLACK

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

that is a terrible ad, tactically, it makes biden seem pretty loveably stupid

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

i also liked the wacky ragtime music

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

haha, that zany joe biden and what is he talking about!!! the background music in that ad, so precious

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playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Is it arch to point out that the content of Ifil's book is essentially irrelevant to anyone predisposed to believe in the 'media bias against Palin' meme? And that the title tells these people all they need to know?

vast variety of steens where we get our HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

biden should make a deliberate gaffe at the beginning of the debate, just to maybe innoculate himself against worse gaffes later on.

collardio gelatinous, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link

yah he should also joke about gaffes early on, then if he catches him making one during the debate he can channel reagan and go 'there i go again' and everyone will laugh and his minus will become a plus

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link

pre-emptive gaffe

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link

joe biden fan fic

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link

the biden doctrine

vast variety of steens where we get our HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link

how about he lets go a whimsical, tension-cutting fart

da croupier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link

pre-gaffe.

collardio gelatinous, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link

That she calls it "the age of Obama" suggests that she sees his rise as exemplary of this historical moment, not that she'll spend her entire book on him.

Usually authors don't get to name their own books. That's the publisher's decision, based on what will sell.

Z S, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

how about he lets go a whimsical, tension-cutting fart

There's your Joe Sixpack.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

o yah not misleading at all: the rise of this guy WHO SELLS A LOT OF BOOKS really exemplifies this historical moment

factiod the original title was AMERICA: COLIN POWElL HAS HANDSOME HAIR

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link


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