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Ross isn’t on trial and no one should be made to feel guilty for “over earnestness” or whatever, that stupid fucking buzzword I only hear on this website. The instances sic describes sound like a different story but still—the past is the past and best of luck to Ross.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 04:52 (five years ago) link

another thread of ppl who had not been on those threads going "wtf Ross is not offensive or mean, it is you who are the offensive and mean ones" and attendant pity party, he did actually get this under control

i remember at least one of these incidents. i don't remember it playing out in terms quite as black and white as that, but it was definitely an awkward situation to put it mildly. the obvious thing is that some of us know that he was going through a really rough time and struggling with some things. that doesn't give him carte blanche to attack others without reason, or for others to not feel hurt or threatened by what he said, of course. but, it does complicate things quite a bit. it's hard to watch people struggle and then unnecessarily lash out, and want to defend them but know you shouldn't. it's hard to know what to do. and then when he would turn around and apologize a few minutes later and hope that everyone would just move on, i mean, how do you react to that.

anyway, i know the overly diplomatic thing is also annoying in a different way, but it's always worth keeping in mind that other people are always, always going through more shit than they let on (no matter how much they let on).

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:13 (five years ago) link

"wtf Ross is not offensive or mean, it is you who are the offensive and mean ones"

anyway as for this part, if that actually happened that must have been really frustrating to deal with at the time. i don't read every single ilx thread (just 99% of them) but i don't remember that, but i also don't doubt that someone did it and was an ass about it. but hopefully you don't feel like everyone was feeling that way. my vibe at the time was definitely *conflicted*

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:15 (five years ago) link

he was nasty to me 1x but it was scattershot and not at all personal. ross i hupe ur good my mans!

alomar lines, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:24 (five years ago) link

ILX should close at night

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:31 (five years ago) link

Would be better for everyone

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:31 (five years ago) link

Ross’ fighting spirit was the best thing about him. wouldn’t take shit from nobody. bit unhinged perhaps but that’s character. he’s probably Steve buscemi in ghost world writing your names on a sheet of paper taped to his wall then applying lipstick as he reads this thread

flopson, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:49 (five years ago) link

who da fuck is ross

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:11 (five years ago) link

damaged hi-freq poster active 2018

flopson, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:16 (five years ago) link

prob a sock

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:17 (five years ago) link

aha

itsabot! (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:26 (five years ago) link

and why is he so bad and hated

single bed mentality (||||||||), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:28 (five years ago) link

I wouldn't characterise him as "bad" or "hated". It seems he was having a bad time and Karl and sic have explained upthread why it might be a good idea for him to take some time out, and for others to be mindful that irl he might be dealing with some shit that nobody knows about. I don't think there's really any need to carry this on further.

vanjie wail (qiqing), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:36 (five years ago) link

that is buscemi in billy madison

Death comes sweeping through the hallway. Thank you, Death. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:38 (five years ago) link

ILX should close at night

Only if everyone promises to get yessed-out and then posts about upon the site reopening in the morning.

The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 07:06 (five years ago) link

xp- dang

flopson, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 07:17 (five years ago) link

b-b-but it's always night somewhere

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 08:07 (five years ago) link

He was an asshole and downright mean to people. Come on. I don’t read ILX regularly and even I read enough to know that he was unwell and it resulted in abusive behavior towards posters.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 10:14 (five years ago) link

I do hope he gets the help he needs but you are all trying to be way too nice about this.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 10:14 (five years ago) link

I shouldn’t have said he was an asshole but he often did exhibit assholish behavior and threw tantrums in a worryingly attention-seeking and disruptive way.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 10:19 (five years ago) link

Can we rename this 'thread wherein we feed the ego of the Deus absconditus'?

pomenitul, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 10:22 (five years ago) link

xp - it is highly possible I did not see such threads

sarahell, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 10:31 (five years ago) link

who da fuck is ross

LOL. I was just re-reading an old thread where he was defending T*******n when T*******n was at his most indefensible, I don't know why he would do that.

Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 10:54 (five years ago) link

this is fine

old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 11:49 (five years ago) link

I always assumed a lot of shady behaviour went on on the "mystery" board which whatever. I feel like the only drama i ever recently saw was the katherine thing and I hope she comes back or maybe I just don't read those threads. The first time I ever met tombot he kicked my bf hard in the shins but I think I got over it.

Yerac, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link

Getting mad at people for being sincerely mean and offensive or like, swindling people in real is different than bitching that specific people post too much or are too try hard, that's just kind of dipshitty.

Yerac, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 12:33 (five years ago) link

Ilx is like a dilly bar

Vanilla ice cream dipped in shit

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link

Imagine a bunch of strangers spending a lot of time debating each other about you. Remembering things about you. Must be nice!

Evan, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link

all you have to do is have a public breakdown multiple times, sounds like a pretty bad deal imo

this seemed like a possibility to me but it always does
prob a sock

― lag∞n, Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:17 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link

xpost - Mayve don’t be abusive to other posters if you don’t want that to happen then.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

(Not saying you are btw. I just meant that as a general rule that’s not OK.)

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

Yeah, seems like a pretty easy rule to follow.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

otm

The ross thing was exactly as sic says, it would be like a day of blando pleasantries and then suddenly he would decide that whichever random innocuous bystander had insulted his family name or whatever and blow up and call them a “pedo” or “tard” and threaten to track them down & have their legs broken &c. Then he’d jump over to some sharing thread and say “hey guys (bystander) is making me have to leave ilx forever NOBODY TRY AND STOP ME” and everyone would be like “oh nooo we would miss all of these very cool and normal posts please stay”, then the next day he’d usually apologise to the person, then repeat. This was pretty much a weekly and later nightly thing for a few months although it seems to have passed a lot of ppl by, but it made things tiresome & unpleasant for a while. & I think enough ppl calling him out on it rather than pretending it wasn’t happening probably was what led to him cutting that shit out, & he was fine after that. He’s p well liked on here, it was just the behaviour that was unacceptable

Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link

Wow I didn’t know it was that bad. I remember some stuff with him deciding he didn’t like homeless people anymore after getting stabbed, or something.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link

i think its sick that ilx still has board drama

(° . ° )― (Lamp), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link

wins otm and lamp otm

old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link

this milk has turned sour

old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link

this thread is 100% lactic acid

old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link

milk jokes

old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link

Wins - thank you. That is exactly what happened and what I saw. Tbh I’m surprised that ppl who seem to be way more involved on ILX than I am these days seemed to not have seen any of that but it happened repeatedly for months iris. He was abusive and manipulative and when anyone tried to offer even the nicest bit of advice he would lose his shit. I had the feeling substances were often involved in the outbursts but that doesn’t make it OK.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:30 (five years ago) link

I couldn’t tell if lamp meant bad sick or like 80s cool sick tbh. Drama is bad but this isn’t drama imo - it’s calling out people for basic behavior that is not acceptable.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link

Not to be nosy but which threads were these? Must be ones I don’t read.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

I don’t even know how this convo started but I was tired of people acting like the shit wins described didn’t happen because it absolutely did.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

idk about drama it’s just that we’re bored/boring enough to sit around board lawyering open & shut cases from months ago, which is much worse haha

Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

i read lamps post as languid lamps-style sarcasm against the shock at some minor board drama tbh

pls lamp if it aint so let me dream

old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link

white chocolate rosscake

mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

so do you guys think we should've nominated hillary??????????????????????????????

j., Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

don't read if u hate me

xpost

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

i thought people were talking about it because it's why tombot left? I only ever saw ross be abruptly mean to mookie once but a lot of referring to it. I kind of assume most people are kind of bonkers though.

Yerac, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link

its not why tb left (this time)

old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link


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