2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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Except where he = Obama.

David R., Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Florida GOP meet in secret as Obama passes McCain
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/state/article835288.ece

Gee why are they so worried. McCain keeps saying the more people know about Palin the more they love her. He's not telling tales again is he?

Fulminating Darkness (Kitties!!!), Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry if this has already been posted... a blog about going on Holiday with John McCain

I was shocked when he said, "If I was in charge, I would nuke Iraq to teach them a lesson". Given McCain's personal experience with the horrors of war, I had expected a more balanced point of view."

http://myblogthebword.blogspot.com/2008/09/my-holiday-with-john-mccain-it-was-just.html

homosexual II, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

With some grass roots organizers complaining about coordination problems with the campaign, Republican Party chairman Jim Greer gathered top officials at the state headquarters in Tallahassee on Tuesday afternoon. He swore the group to secrecy.

When asked about it by the St. Petersburg Times, Greer confirmed the meeting. He largely declined to discuss what was said, but sought to play down any strife.

Coming up with a new way to rig the election?

Nicole, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

McCain's appreciation of the beauty of Asian women was so great that David the American economist had to move his Thai wife to the other side of the table from McCain as McCain kept aggressively flirting with and touching her. Needless to say I was irritated at his large ego and his rude behavior towards his wife and other women, but decided he must have some redeeming qualities as he had adopted a handicapped child from Bangladesh. I asked him about this one day, and his response was shocking: "Oh, that was Cindy's idea - I didn't have anything to do with it. She just went and adopted this thing without even asking me. You can't imagine how people stare when I wheel this ugly, black thing around in a shopping cart in Arizona. No, it wasn't my idea at all."

McCain fan-fic is the best because I can really imagine it happening.

Z S, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Coordination problems, there's a great euphemism.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0fdFguG19V8Uj/340x.jpg

Get ready to possibly see a lot more of this guy in the next few weeks.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

lolz UC Santa Cruz

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

My god, those poor desperate folks at The Corner are touting Palin's Hugh Hewitt interview as if it really demonstrated her suppressed intelligence and skillz.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Rush probably feels cheated.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

IFILL: My name is Gwen Ifill. I am the moderator and managing editor of Washington Week and a senior correspondent for the News Hour with Jim Lehrer. The title of the book is "The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama." It's taking the story of Barack Obama and extending it to cover a whole new generation of black politicians who are doing similar things in different ways.

HANNITY: Your thoughts, Governor, is that a concern at all to you?

PALIN: You know, I'm not going to let it be a concern. Let me just tell you that John McCain has been in an underdog position before, and this ticket, I think it is safe to say, is in an underdog position. But that's what makes us work harder. It makes us want to communicate more clearly and profoundly with the electorate, letting them know what the contrasts are between these two tickets, It's motivating to me, even, to hear Gwen's comments there because, again, it makes us work that much harder, and it provides even more fairness and objectivity and choices for the voters on Nov. 4, if we try that much harder.

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ calling the description of her book "comments"

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

being in an underdog position: makes us work harder
gwen ifill writes a book about black politicians: makes us work harder.
mccain/palin 08: provides even more fairness and objectivity and choices, as opposed to gwen ifill.

hmmm

goole, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Narrative:

If she crashes and burns tonight, it will be because of Ifill's bias.
If she doesn't, it will be a heroic overcoming of Ifill's bias.

Tomorrow morning should be interesting...

Z S, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

imo i don't think any spin they try to put on it will work, they just look like they're flailing about now and palin can't come off as anything better than very well-coached at this point in the game.

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm guessing the "reverse racism" tack will do as well as the "sexism" tack has.

da croupier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link

xxp Well that's the Fox News narrative, but I doubt it will be the MSMs.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i agree that someone whos written a book abt how one candidate is making powerful changes prob shouldnt be moderating the debate

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

imo i don't think any spin they try to put on it will work, they just look like they're flailing about now and palin can't come off as anything better than very well-coached at this point in the game.

I concur. The bad vibe around her and the McCain ticket has reached the stage where the narrative will be bad unless she objectively wins (none of this exceeding expectations nonsense).

caek, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

well, if joe six pack say so ... xxp

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i agree that someone whos written a book abt how one candidate is making powerful changes prob shouldnt be moderating the debate

Another fantastic McCain vetting job

Michael White, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

srsly if the moderator had written a book abt mccain that wouldnt make u uneasy

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

ifill didn't write a book about obama

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

are you suggesting that her financial interest gets in the way? the one that led her to leave NBC for PBS?

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm with ice cream, and if a moderator wrote a book about mccain we'd all feel the same way

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

ifill didn't write a book about obama

― gabbneb, Thursday, October 2, 2008 1:15 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

ifill is writing a book about obama, right, got it. got my tenses switched up!

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

i wouldn't feel the same way because obama isn't desperately looking for excuses at this point.

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

well that's part of it, too. i mean they should have brought this up awhile ago if they had a problem

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

srsly if the moderator had written a book abt mccain that wouldnt make u uneasy

It very well might, which is why I might have taken the trouble to have an intern in my staff merely goggle her to see what came up.

Michael White, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

ifill is writing a book about obama, right, got it. got my tenses switched up!

no she is not writing a book about obama. she is writing a book about a new generation of black politicians, one chapter of which is about obama.

i think she should have disclosed the book to the commission. i also think - as do most people, most likely - that she's a liberal and obama supporter. no one here has a problem with her moderating the debate on that basis. i think, along with john mccain, that she is nevertheless a professional journalist, just like tom brokaw, who some have suggested is a mccain supporter.

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

The googles, they do nothing

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

merely goggles

i'm a shop btw (jeff), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

no she is not writing a book about obama. she is writing a book about a new generation of black politicians, one chapter of which is about obama.

― gabbneb, Thursday, October 2, 2008 1:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

allow me to direct you to the title of the book: The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i wouldn't feel the same way because obama isn't desperately looking for excuses at this point.

If you've ever seen Ifill, she's a strenuously 'fair' reporter and moderator on the Newshour not some modern partisan hack, which is probably why McCain wanted her. Now he (and his supporters) just look like petulant whiners. Gov. Palin hasn't even fucked this up yet and they're complaining about the moderator.

Michael White, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

disclosure gets rid of all these problems. even britt hume trusts her.

caek, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

i think the only people who are taking this paranoid bullshit and believing it are the ones who are already sold on palin, her knowledge of nothing beyond salmon recipes be damned

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

allow me to direct you to the title of the book

allow me to direct you to the content. and the title refers to the "age of Obama" (as context for the subject matter), not Obama himself

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

the age of obama seems to be the context for her argument eh

maybe the book which neither of us has read really only has one chapter to do w/obama - in that case it has a misleading title

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

but anyway go right ahead and directed me to the content

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i like that nate silvers starting beef w/ other polling sites, good times

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i would like to see the content

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Ifill said Obama's story, which she has yet to write... is only a small part of the book, which discusses how politics in the black community have changed since the civil rights era. Among those subjects is Colin Powell, secretary of state in the Bush administration...

Although Malkin raised the topic of Ifill's impartiality the day before the debate, the PBS journalist said that Time magazine noted she was writing a book in August, and that it has been available for pre-sale on Amazon.com. The book also is mentioned in a Sept. 4 interview she gave the Washington Post.

Michael White, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

ralph stanley steps up

wow. mark warner coming through?

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

already unavailable! xpost

sleep, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

which she has yet to write / she was writing a book in August

????

i saw one report that said it was due to be released on election day in which case its got to be all but done by now / amazon says february tho

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link


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