2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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CBS poll

Handling of financial crisis - Obama
Voter confidence in handling of economy - Obama
Winner of the 1st debate - Obama
Voter enthusiasm - Obama
Favorable rating - Obama
Handling Iraq/Commander-in-Chief qualities - McCain
Empathy - Obama
Prepared to be president - McCain
Cares about protecting ordinary people - Obama
Leading among women, moderates and voters under age 45 - Obama

Overall: Obama (49-40)

No wonder McCain's all butthurt. Obama's like the gifted young brother who gets all of the attention and obviously deserves it.

Z S, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Rasmussen: Obama 51-44
GWU/Battleground: Obama 49-44

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

mccain told msnbc that he suspended his campaign to sign a bill that puts us on the brink of disaster. grandpa no!

da croupier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Joe Biden... EXPOSED! - NYT - An Everyman on the Trail, With Perks

Persistent investigative journalism has revealed that Joe Biden lives in a nice house - which he obtained legally! Joe Biden's dirty secret: his Amtrak tickets are expensive. He's audacious enough to legally cover some of them with campaign funds! Worst of all:

Mr. Biden’s campaign said the payments to tree trimmers and lawn services, typically totaling a few thousand dollars a year, were permissible because they were tied to political events at his home. Jim Whittaker, co-owner of Grass Roots Inc., which was paid $4,345 in 2000, said the payment probably represented several visits to the senator’s property, adding that Mr. Biden was “late paying the bill one time.”

SCANDALOUS!

Z S, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

"thrown under the bus" was popular like six weeks ago!

goole, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I should be an investigative journalist. I've got goods like that on all sorts of people.

Z S, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

senator lives pretty well, film at 11

goole, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

can't wait for that to make the rounds on the corner/puma blogs

goole, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh man Obama's gonna totally lose the old white person vote when they discover Biden's into his lawn.

da croupier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

In fact, Biden is arguably the LEAST wealthy member of the Senate:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/overview.php?type=W&year=2006&filter=S&sort=A

Z S, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

uh, I think that's common knowledge

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

His average net worth is negative. Must be those mortgages that he obtained LEGALLY!

Z S, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh man Obama's gonna totally lose the old white person vote when they discover Biden's into his lawn.

He might lost the youth vote if folks find out he waters his lawn wearing black dress socks.

David R., Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

he = Biden, of course

David R., Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Except where he = Obama.

David R., Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Florida GOP meet in secret as Obama passes McCain
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/state/article835288.ece

Gee why are they so worried. McCain keeps saying the more people know about Palin the more they love her. He's not telling tales again is he?

Fulminating Darkness (Kitties!!!), Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry if this has already been posted... a blog about going on Holiday with John McCain

I was shocked when he said, "If I was in charge, I would nuke Iraq to teach them a lesson". Given McCain's personal experience with the horrors of war, I had expected a more balanced point of view."

http://myblogthebword.blogspot.com/2008/09/my-holiday-with-john-mccain-it-was-just.html

homosexual II, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

With some grass roots organizers complaining about coordination problems with the campaign, Republican Party chairman Jim Greer gathered top officials at the state headquarters in Tallahassee on Tuesday afternoon. He swore the group to secrecy.

When asked about it by the St. Petersburg Times, Greer confirmed the meeting. He largely declined to discuss what was said, but sought to play down any strife.

Coming up with a new way to rig the election?

Nicole, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

McCain's appreciation of the beauty of Asian women was so great that David the American economist had to move his Thai wife to the other side of the table from McCain as McCain kept aggressively flirting with and touching her. Needless to say I was irritated at his large ego and his rude behavior towards his wife and other women, but decided he must have some redeeming qualities as he had adopted a handicapped child from Bangladesh. I asked him about this one day, and his response was shocking: "Oh, that was Cindy's idea - I didn't have anything to do with it. She just went and adopted this thing without even asking me. You can't imagine how people stare when I wheel this ugly, black thing around in a shopping cart in Arizona. No, it wasn't my idea at all."

McCain fan-fic is the best because I can really imagine it happening.

Z S, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Coordination problems, there's a great euphemism.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0fdFguG19V8Uj/340x.jpg

Get ready to possibly see a lot more of this guy in the next few weeks.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

lolz UC Santa Cruz

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

My god, those poor desperate folks at The Corner are touting Palin's Hugh Hewitt interview as if it really demonstrated her suppressed intelligence and skillz.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Rush probably feels cheated.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

IFILL: My name is Gwen Ifill. I am the moderator and managing editor of Washington Week and a senior correspondent for the News Hour with Jim Lehrer. The title of the book is "The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama." It's taking the story of Barack Obama and extending it to cover a whole new generation of black politicians who are doing similar things in different ways.

HANNITY: Your thoughts, Governor, is that a concern at all to you?

PALIN: You know, I'm not going to let it be a concern. Let me just tell you that John McCain has been in an underdog position before, and this ticket, I think it is safe to say, is in an underdog position. But that's what makes us work harder. It makes us want to communicate more clearly and profoundly with the electorate, letting them know what the contrasts are between these two tickets, It's motivating to me, even, to hear Gwen's comments there because, again, it makes us work that much harder, and it provides even more fairness and objectivity and choices for the voters on Nov. 4, if we try that much harder.

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ calling the description of her book "comments"

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

being in an underdog position: makes us work harder
gwen ifill writes a book about black politicians: makes us work harder.
mccain/palin 08: provides even more fairness and objectivity and choices, as opposed to gwen ifill.

hmmm

goole, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Narrative:

If she crashes and burns tonight, it will be because of Ifill's bias.
If she doesn't, it will be a heroic overcoming of Ifill's bias.

Tomorrow morning should be interesting...

Z S, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

imo i don't think any spin they try to put on it will work, they just look like they're flailing about now and palin can't come off as anything better than very well-coached at this point in the game.

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm guessing the "reverse racism" tack will do as well as the "sexism" tack has.

da croupier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link

xxp Well that's the Fox News narrative, but I doubt it will be the MSMs.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i agree that someone whos written a book abt how one candidate is making powerful changes prob shouldnt be moderating the debate

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

imo i don't think any spin they try to put on it will work, they just look like they're flailing about now and palin can't come off as anything better than very well-coached at this point in the game.

I concur. The bad vibe around her and the McCain ticket has reached the stage where the narrative will be bad unless she objectively wins (none of this exceeding expectations nonsense).

caek, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

well, if joe six pack say so ... xxp

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i agree that someone whos written a book abt how one candidate is making powerful changes prob shouldnt be moderating the debate

Another fantastic McCain vetting job

Michael White, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

srsly if the moderator had written a book abt mccain that wouldnt make u uneasy

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

ifill didn't write a book about obama

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

are you suggesting that her financial interest gets in the way? the one that led her to leave NBC for PBS?

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm with ice cream, and if a moderator wrote a book about mccain we'd all feel the same way

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

ifill didn't write a book about obama

― gabbneb, Thursday, October 2, 2008 1:15 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

ifill is writing a book about obama, right, got it. got my tenses switched up!

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

i wouldn't feel the same way because obama isn't desperately looking for excuses at this point.

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

well that's part of it, too. i mean they should have brought this up awhile ago if they had a problem

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

srsly if the moderator had written a book abt mccain that wouldnt make u uneasy

It very well might, which is why I might have taken the trouble to have an intern in my staff merely goggle her to see what came up.

Michael White, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

ifill is writing a book about obama, right, got it. got my tenses switched up!

no she is not writing a book about obama. she is writing a book about a new generation of black politicians, one chapter of which is about obama.

i think she should have disclosed the book to the commission. i also think - as do most people, most likely - that she's a liberal and obama supporter. no one here has a problem with her moderating the debate on that basis. i think, along with john mccain, that she is nevertheless a professional journalist, just like tom brokaw, who some have suggested is a mccain supporter.

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

The googles, they do nothing

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

merely goggles

i'm a shop btw (jeff), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

no she is not writing a book about obama. she is writing a book about a new generation of black politicians, one chapter of which is about obama.

― gabbneb, Thursday, October 2, 2008 1:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

allow me to direct you to the title of the book: The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i wouldn't feel the same way because obama isn't desperately looking for excuses at this point.

If you've ever seen Ifill, she's a strenuously 'fair' reporter and moderator on the Newshour not some modern partisan hack, which is probably why McCain wanted her. Now he (and his supporters) just look like petulant whiners. Gov. Palin hasn't even fucked this up yet and they're complaining about the moderator.

Michael White, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link


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