The Lysergic Acid Diethylamidiotic Joe Biden & Sarah Palin VP Presidential Debate thread in the 2 zero zero 8 (2008 party over oops)

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i think BOTH! somehow. email me your contendahs

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 October 2008 13:34 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.hollywood-newsroom.com/news/entertainment-value-huge-for-sarah-palin-joe-biden-debate/

“A lot of people are anticipating this to be almost a ‘Saturday Night Live’ live,” said Tammy Vigil, an assistant professor of communications at Boston University and a co-author of the upcoming book, “The Third Agenda in U.S. Presidential Debates.” “The entertainment value on this debate is going to be huge.”

djmartian, Thursday, 2 October 2008 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Heavy on the sarcasm but even so:

Fresh evidence tonight that the brilliant McCain campaign strategy to lock away the political effervescence of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to stoke overconfidence among the nation's Democrats and set the stage for yet another improbable Arizona comeback is working exactly as planned.

And oh, the comments.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm already getting nervous, guys!!

goole, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't be.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

cover someone''s eyes and ask them what shirt they have on. Chances are, they will stumble and have a hard time remembering.

wow the average American must be even stupider than I thought

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

(Trust me, goole -- it's not GREAT satire but read through the whole thing, then read the comments.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay these people are actually dumber than the folks making Youtube comments.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.latimes.com/media/thumbnails/photo/2007-06/30306866.jpg

Dan I., Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Andrew Malcolm's immigrant parents repeatedly stressed the importance of active participation in a democracy. Early lessons included learning the alphabetical list of states by watching televised roll calls of national political conventions. That childhood exposure led to a lifelong fascination with politics, including 40-plus years of covering them and a brief stint practicing them as press secretary to Laura Bush in 1999-2000.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay these people are actually dumber than the folks making Youtube comments.

Is that even possible?

Nicole, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Beneath every cellar is a potential for further development.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

LA local news was doing their spot on the debate, but then...

"in more breaking news at this hour, there are reports of a puppy on the loose on the 5"

traffic > election, LOL

Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry
Traffic > debate, though this could throw the final KO to the election

Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

JOE BIDEN WILL SAVE THAT PUPPY

nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

HE WILL DO IT WITH HIS BARE HANDS, NOT SHOOT IT WITH A TRANQ GUN FROM A HELICOPTER LIKE SOME GOVERNORS WHO SHALL REMAIN NAMELESS

nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Obama phones in about puppy, McCain rushes to the 5

da croupier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

WHEN HE IS DONE SAVING THE PUPPY HE WILL TAKE THE TRAIN BACK TO DELAWARE TO SEE HIS FAMILY AND, IF THE PUPPY IS UNCLAIMED, HE WILL LET HIS GRANDCHILDREN PLAY WITH THE PUPPY, GENTLY

nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

why are you yelling?

da croupier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

a puppy loose in the presidential race

i'm a shop btw (jeff), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

are there any bars in nyc that are going to be playing this tonight

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

No, none.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

nabisco + puppy humor is one of the things i'll most remember about 08

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

how feverishly is palin praying with thomas muthy right now?

The Atlantis Mystery Solved! (Frogman Henry), Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

hai guyz how do i get to huntington beach
i wunt to go hunting

a puppy, Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

LORD MAKE AH WAY, LORD MAKE AH WAY

circa1916, Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I really hope Palin brings the lolz tonight, this is my evening's entertainment.

circa1916, Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

obama's dad is a wizard, pass it on

john mccain's illegitimate black child (musically), Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, crybaby stage already.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.bradblog.com/Images/siren.gif[url=http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/McCain_pulling_out_of_Michigan.html?showall]MCCAIN CONCEDING MICHIGAN MCCAIN CONCEDING MICHIGAN MCCAIN CONCEDING MICHIGAN MCCAIN CONCEDING MICHIGANhttp://www.bradblog.com/Images/siren.gif

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Posted already.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link

oh i forgot what thread i was in

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

DON'T PANIC:

re: Free Palin [Mark R. Levin]

I would LOVE to question Katie Couric about her knowledge of the Constitution, let alone Supreme Court decisions.

and

So, I guess, this is all an around and about way of saying that I'm in the Free Sarah Palin camp. I don't mean throw her out there and hope she swims. She needs to be prepared on the substance. But she also needs to be taught techniques to relax, feel calm and grounded, find her center, listen strategically, and take control. Deep breathing exercises, physical and vocal warm ups, can help. Finding that one person in the audience to connect to, or forgetting the audience altogether and having an intimate chat. She needs to find whatever works. And every bit of coaching she gets should be directed toward helping her exude the charm, charisma, and confidence that has gotten her this far.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Somehow Mark Levin as yoga teacher is not filling me with a sense of calm.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

"Find your flow, yes...now blame the Democrats for not letting you find it earlier..."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

palin should smoke a fatty with K-Lo, that will help her relax

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Sarah and Kathryn Go to Applebee's

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

sarah palin's funny sober just think how funny she would be when she's baked

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Ross Douthat has the best analysis I've read in days:

For those conservatives who claim to see no problems with Palin's performance, of course, this is precisely what's so outrageous about the anti-Palin backlash: She's being judged, they complain, less on her record and her positions than on her ability to BS her way through "gotcha" questions from hostile interviewers, and she's being found wanting because she isn't as practiced in the art of the on-air dodge as more experienced politicians. (Thus Joe Carter's pro-Palin complaint, for instance, that he "cannot make the leap in logic required to believe that proficiency on television is evidence of capable leadership.")

I think this view is wrong for several reasons: Because Palin's relatively limited record in politics magnifies the importance of her public comments for anyone who's trying to get a handle on who this woman is and whether she's ready for high office; because her performance has been so comprehensively lousy that it has to reflect, to some degree, on her knowledge base and her understanding of policy as well as on her TV chops; and because like it or not, "proficiency on television" is simply a prerequisite for capable leadership in a mass democracy. But there's a sense in which the apologists for her performance are getting something right: In the process of performing very, very badly on national television, Palin is holding up a mirror to the rest of the political world, and revealing how the mix of talking points, bluster, obfuscation and BS that nearly all national politicians traffic in as a matter of course sounds when it's filtered through someone who isn't practiced in it, and isn't ready for the spotlight. Her performances reflect badly on her readiness for the vice presidency, no question - but they reflect badly on our whole compromised, spin-happy political class as well.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, whoop-de-fuck. Sarah Palin as window on our fucked up political process.

Any analysis that makes more out of her than a fish out of water is stretching it.

B.L.A.M., Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

uh

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link

sounds like a GREAT PLAN!

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Another example noted by the campaign was voting for defense cuts during the Reagan administration, and voting against the first Gulf war in 1991. (PolitiFact.com points out that he voted with the majority of Senate Democrats on the resolution.)

lolz - I mean the first Gulf War was fucking stupid and voting against it is totally defensible but way to screw up your facts ahead of time guys

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

That's not a bad plan for her, honestly: if her main liability is looking a bit confused and underinformed when pressed on issues, it make sense to take the attack-dog position, because you can't look confused or underinformed when you're lunging at someone. (Also she's allowed to lunge at Biden in ways he's not allowed to lunge at her, so why not.)

nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

woohoo

is this on at 2am uk time again? I have a 6 pack of tiger and 10 lights, and I'm settling in for the fireworks

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm gonna stay up (somehow). I think it's gonna be on BBC news24?

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link

if biden isn't solid this could be pretty anti-climactic. if he doesn't veer off course to school her or attack her, but just trusts that the disparity between them will be so apparent that no one will be able to apologize for palin tomorrow, or likewise attack biden for anything, that would be ideal.

rent, Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

if biden isnt solid it will probably still be entertaining and climactic imo

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link


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