ILX 70s album poll - results

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Thirded for the fall (summer is slow anyway), but I think we need a Council of the Elders sit-down on the rules. Heretics unite!

Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link

How do we know we'll be alive in 6 whole months!? Eight-ees! Eight-ees! Eight-ees!

And three cheers for HP.

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

HOBART HAS DONE WELL

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Where's The Saints?

Abso-fucking-lutely!!!!!!!

Pradaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 April 2005 08:29 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, put off a new poll. the 70s singles poll is yet to be posted. and that should take us through to the end of the May.

gspm (gspm), Friday, 29 April 2005 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Can somebody post the link to the 90s poll? I'd love to see it.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

THE 1990s POLL RESULTS - THE ALBUMS

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

(You were helped by a librarian today!)

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks so much. I've never heard the majority of those albums, but it's still cool to see the results. Where the hell was Built To Spill? And no Lonesome Crowded West, Being There or Wowee Zowee? And I'm not their biggest fan, but you'd think Spiderland would make it in there somehwere. Geez Louise!

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

This has been bothering me so....700! Entertaining list, thanks Hobart.

jmeister (jmeister), Saturday, 30 April 2005 04:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Hi, sorry I haven't started the singles poll yet, and I agree that this has been drawn out. I'll explain that, and then stop being so defensive - when I started this, back in November, I had quite a lot more free time than I do now. The power outage put things back quite a bit, and we lost a lot of nominations. I don't think ILM was quite back to normal until mid-Jan, was it? (I might be wrong there). The idea was to be counting votes through December, and putting up the poll in January - I'd planned it so that I had a clear patch from coursework (I'm a student, second time around, working part-time, commuting and basically drowning in work right now - although you don't want to hear my woes) in which to finish this off.

But it didn't happen like that.. Giving a month to finish nominations, and another month to vote put things back longer, and then it did take me a while to count votes. There are good reasons for that, that I'm not going to go into here. Some things happened earlier this year that caused me a few problems, and made me want to hide away from the world for a bit. Including the internet.

Anyway, that, together with coursework, exams, you name it...meant it all got put off until last week. May not being a particularly quiet time at University, they took longer to post because they had to be slotted in between staying up all night writing bollocks that is of no interest to anyone essays. Which is the reason for the delay in the singles poll too...

Anyway, I didn't post this as a whinge, but as an explanation. I can start putting the singles poll up on friday, but there will be a big gap in the middle, as next week is going to be one of those drinking far too much caffeine, avoiding sleep if possible and trying to cram work that would normally take about a month into one week type of weeks.

Or it can go up the weekend after next when it all ENDS! Temporarily.

It ended up as a whinge, anyway, didn't it?

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Nominations...

Well, I tried to make them a bit more open for this poll - and there was some criticism of that in the initial thread - some people thought there should only be two nominations for each category as in previous polls.

Its a lovely idea not to have to nominate at all, there were so many things I discovered I'd missed out. Or perhaps to have an unlimited number of nominations - to give people a list to think about, even if hey don't have to stick to it (I know there are things I'd miss if they weren't on that list). Just one problem - it would be a huge list and complete fucking nightmare to add up. I wonder if Steve (I think it was Steve who started the whole thing) wisely chose two nomiations for each so he could attempt to keep track of the poll.

If anyone was brave enough to try it with no nomiations, that would certainly make it interesting. You might wish you hadn't, though.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the noms. The number of albums I'd have forgotten to include!

Oh, any news on the album poll with my vote included? If too busy, that's cool no worries.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder if Steve (I think it was Steve who started the whole thing) wisely chose two nomiations for each so he could attempt to keep track of the poll.

The whole thing being the 00s poll or the 90s poll or whichever one prompted the current round of polls.


hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post...yes, Mark, that shouldn't take very long - I meant to do it earlier and I'll get onto it..

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link

No problem HP. I think that the song list is antipated more by most of us, so the wait just builds the excitement even more. I don't mind. I really appreciate the work you've done. (btw, the album poll was great!)

peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

The Grout 100 (or 102, actually) - or how things MIGHT have looked.

1 (2) Clash - London Calling 998
2 (1) Sly And The Family Stone - There's A Riot Goin On 970
3 (4) Television - Marquee Moon 943
4 (3) Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks 884
5 (5) Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express 838
6 (8) PiL - Metal Box 824
7 (6) Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures 810
8 (7) Blondie - Parallel Lines 781
9 (9)Buzzcocks - Singles Going Steady 758
10 (10) Marvin Gaye - What's Going On 746
11 (11) Rolling Stones - Exile On Main Street 732
12 (12) Stevie Wonder - Innervisions 732
13 (13) Gang Of Four - Entertainment! 706
14 (15) Modern Lovers - Modern Lovers 693
15 (14) David Bowie - The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust 692
16 (19) Stooges - Funhouse 625
17 (16) Sex Pistols - Nevermind The Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols 616
18 (17) Various - The Harder They Come (Soundtrack) 604
19 (18) Michael Jackson - Off The Wall 601
20 (22) Ramones - The Ramones 600
21 (20) Kraftwerk - The Man Machine 569
22 (21) Al Green - Call Me 564
23 (27) Wire - Pink Flag 549
24 (23) Brian Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets 546
25 (26) Can - Tago Mago 544
26 (24) Joni Mitchell - Blue 521
27 (25) David Bowie - Low 513
28 (28) Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers 497
29 (29) Velvet Underground - Loaded 496
30 (30) Clash - The Clash (Uk Version) 456
31 (31) Big Star - Radio City 454
32 (39) Wire - Chairs Missing 447
33 (32) Neil Young - After The Goldrush 446
34 (33) Elvis Costello - This Year's Model 437
35 (34) Nick Drake - Pink Moon 424
36 (35) Serge Gainsbourg - Histoire Du Melody Nelson 423
37 (36) Brian Eno - Another Green World 417
38 (37) Can - Ege Bamyasi 411
39 (38) Stevie Wonder - Songs In The Key Of Life Wire - Chairs Missing 400
40 (40) Gram Parsons - Grievous Angel 391
41 (41) Neil Young - On The Beach 384
42 (42) Talking Heads - More Songs About Buildings And Food 381
43 (43) Steve Reich - Music For 18 Musicians 363
44 (46) Suicide - First Album 359
45 (44) Curtis Mayfield - Superfly 358
46 (45) Miles Davis - On The Corner 352
47 (46) Stevie Wonder - Talking Book 348
48 (48) RRoxy Music - For Your Pleasure 345
49 (49) Roxy Music - s/t 339
50 (50) Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic 338
51 (51) Neil Young - Tonight's The Night 337
52 (52) Fall - Dragnet Fall - Dragnet 337
53 (53) David Bowie - Hunky Dory 330
54 (54) Richard And Linda Thompson - I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight 321
55 (55) Ornette Coleman - Dancing In Your Head 320
56 (56) Fleetwood Mac - Rumours 310
57 (57) Congos - Heart Of The Congos 310
58 (58) Bob Dylan and the Band - The Basement Tapes 300
59 (59) Miles Davis - Bitches Brew 299
60 (60) Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True 297
61 (61) Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps 296
62 (80) Neu! - Neu! 291
63 (62) David Bowie - Station To Station 289
64 (63) Black Sabbath - Paranoid 289
65 (68) Wire - 154 289
66 (64) Big Star - #1 Record 281
67 (65) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here 271
68 (66) Led Zeppelin - IV 270
69 (67) Led Zeppelin - Houses Of The Holy 269
70 (69) Various - Saturday Night Fever OST 266
71 (84) Iggy & The Stooges - Raw Power 265
72 (70) Brian Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy) 263
73 (71) Parliament - Mothership Connection 262
74 (72) Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On 260
75 (73) Miles Davis - Jack Johnson 258
76 (74) Donna Summer "On the Radio" 257
77 (75) John Cale - Paris 1919 256
78 (76) Big Star - Third 251
79 (83) Slits - Cut 248
80 (77) Funkadelic - Maggot Brain Neu! - Neu! 246
81 (79) Beatles - Let It Be Beach Boys - Surf's Up 244
82 (82) Nick Drake - Bryter Later 241
83 (78) John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band 241
84 (81) Beach Boys - Surf's Up 240
85 (85) Leonard Cohen - Songs Of Love And Hate 232
86 (86) Parliament - Funkentelechy vs. The Placebo Syndrome 231
87 (87) B52's - The B52's 229
88 (88) Can - Future Days 222
89 (100) Various - Nuggets 221
90 (89) Sparks - No. 1 In Heaven 220
91 (92) Sparks - Kimono My House 214
92 (94) Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown 214
93 (90) Steely Dan - Countdown to Ecstasy 212
94 (91) Cheap Trick - At Budokan 211
95 (93) Philip Glass - Einstein On The Beach 208
96 (127) Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance 208
97 (97) Kate Bush - The Kick Inside 206
98 (95) Cure - Three Imaginary Boys 204
99 (105) Captain Beefheart And The Magic Band - Lick My Decals Off, Baby 204
100 (98) David Bowie - "Heroes" 203
102 (96) Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On The Edge Of Town 203 203
102 (99) New York Dolls - s/t 203

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

That's actually a Top 105, as #39 #80 and #81 are all tied.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link

That's an interesting list, there.

Regret: As my vote was sent to the wrong place, Pere Ubu's "The Modern Dance" and CaptBeef's "Lick my Decals" missed out (shame).

However, there was something so right about the Nuggets box being in position 100.

And heck, how much fighting would there have been if "London Calling" was the 'real' number one?

You choose.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 5 May 2005 06:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I finally got around to listening to Metal Box based solely on this thread and I have to say... I don't get it.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 5 May 2005 07:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Listen to it like 10 or 15 more times. Seriously. Poptones was the first track that hooked me.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 5 May 2005 07:05 (eighteen years ago) link

preferred the 100 sans grout (sorry mark)

for completeness, here's the rest of the PFM 100. you can barely put a feather between the two camps these days, huh?

1 Low David Bowie
2 London Calling The Clash
3 Marquee Moon Television
4 There's A Riot Goin' On Sly & the Family Stone
5 Blood On The Tracks Bob Dylan
6 Trans-Europe Express Kraftwerk
7 Led Zeppelin IV
8 Entertainment! Gang of Four
9 Unknown Pleasures Joy Division
10 Another Green World Brian Eno
11 Exile On Main Street Rolling Stones
12 Fun House The Stooges
13 Pink Moon Nick Drake
14 Loaded The Velvet Underground
15 Who's Next The Who
16 Singles Going Steady Buzzcocks
17 Maggot Brain Funkadelic
18 Bitches Brew Miles Davis
19 Ege Bamyasi Can
20 Electric Warrior T Rex
21 Histoire de Melody Nelson Serge Gainsbourg
22 Pink Flag Wire
23 Ramones The Ramones
24 Here Come the Warm Jets Brian Eno
25 Neu!
26 Innervisions Stevie Wonder
27 Led Zeppelin III
28 Let It Be The Beatles
29 Tago Mago Can
30 On the Corner Miles Davis
31 Fear Of Music Talking Heads
32 The Wall Pink Floyd
33 Chairs Missing Wire
34 Saturday Night Fever (soundtrack)
35 Y Pop Group
36 Wish You Were Here Pink Floyd
37 My Aim Is True Elvis Costello
38 Drums and Wires XTC
39 Suicide
40 The Modern Lovers
41 Rumours Fleetwood Mac
42 The Specials
43 Off The Wall Michael Jackson
44 The Clash
45 More Songs About Buildings and Food Talking Heads
46 Heart of The Congos
47 Call Me Al Green
48 Live-Evil Miles Davis
49 What's Going On Marvin Gaye
50 Starsailor Tim Buckley
51 Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols
52 This Year's Model Elvis Costello & the Attractions
53 Music for 18 Musicians Steve Reich
54 Cosmo's Factory Creedence Clearwater Revival
55 Bryter Layter Nick Drake
56 Future Days Can
57 Paul Simon

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 5 May 2005 10:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't imagine too many people "getting" Metal Box on first listen.

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 5 May 2005 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Poptones was the first track that hooked me.

Hah! Me, too. I hated it until "Poptones" came on during shuffle. I'd heard it many times by them, but that anti-lilting guitar line just assailed me.. After that, listen to "Swan Lake" and then "Albatross".. I'm still not sure if I really like the second side (as it were) all that much..

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 5 May 2005 11:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I finally got around to listening to Metal Box based solely on this thread and I have to say... I don't get it.

I feel the same way about "Exile on Main Street", which I finally got around to listening to the other day. I mean it's pleasant enough - kind of like the Stones doing the Dead - that sort of innocuous jammy country-blues-rock, but best Stones album? I don't get it.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

The 70s were pretty fucking rad.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

This was an amazing read and I can’t wait for more in the future.

A singles list seems like a nightmare because there are so many of them.

BeeOK (boo radley), Saturday, 7 May 2005 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

. but that's the beauty of the nomination system.

Sorry, was this thread going to sleep beore I prodded it again?

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 8 May 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

This thread is retired but will make occasional appearances to do cosnulting.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 8 May 2005 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost Pitchfork vs. ILM: at a glance it says the biggest difference is ILM doesn't recognize the Mighty Splendour that is Led Zeppelin. This makes me sad.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Sunday, 8 May 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

ILM's kinda boring now. I miss the days when we'd vote Britney's "...Baby One More Time" the best single of all time or whatever. Those were better times. Now we vote for Radiohead.

Atnevon (Atnevon), Sunday, 8 May 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Not in this thread, necessarily, but you understand what I'm talking about. Populism will do that.

Atnevon (Atnevon), Sunday, 8 May 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

To be fair, Radiohead did obscenely well in that poll that 'Baby One More Time' poll too.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link

English.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link

So what would have been the #1 in your ideal fantasy ILM 70s poll? Not necessarily what you would pick for #1 but what you would have expected it to be based on the type of stuff that's generally discussed here? I haven't been here for very long so I can't really answer that myself but I did expect the poll to be a lot more post-punk heavy.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 9 May 2005 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link

"old ilm" (groan!) 70s poll woulda been more dominated by bowie, had more roxy, had at least SOME t. rex (still a wtf).

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 9 May 2005 04:10 (eighteen years ago) link

So, less Pitchfork, more Mojo?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 9 May 2005 04:59 (eighteen years ago) link

yes cuz mojo often has glam acts on the cover

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 9 May 2005 05:09 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.tilldawn.net/images/mojo47.jpg

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 9 May 2005 05:20 (eighteen years ago) link

If I'm interpreting Alba's, er, breviloquence correctly, then it's proof that my ILM is Extremely British (and Stylus isn't far behind) Theory is spreading like wildfire.. I will present it in full at next year's Experience Music Project 2006. Until then, recommended viewing: The ILM Top 100 Albums of the 90s (note the disturbingly high placement of trip-hop, St. Etienne, Different Class, and Magnetic Fields); Stylus Magazine's Top 40 albums of 2004 and Top 50 Albums of 2000-2004 (note mad love for Nellie McKay, Junior Boys, and esp. Girls Aloud); finally, both groups' forthcoming Top 100 Albums of the 1980s, which The Stone Roses will invariably win in a landslide, almost certainly followed by 23 consecutive releases by The Fall (which would certainly have been 27 had compilations not been forbidden) from Totale's Turn to the Cab it Up/Descendant EP.

Quod Erat Demonstrandum

Thank you.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 9 May 2005 05:42 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Just to recap, for convenience and posterity:

100. VA - Nuggets
99. New York Dolls - s/t
98. David Bowie - Heroes
97. Kate Bush - The Kick Inside
96. Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On the Edge of Town
95. The Cure - Three Imaginary Boys
94. Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown
93. Philip Glass - Einstein on the Beach
92. Sparks - Kimono My House
91. Cheap Trick - Live at Budokan
90. Steely Dan - Countdown to Ecstacy
89. Sparks - No. 1 in Heaven
88. Can - Future Days
87. The B52s - The B52s
86. Parliament - Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome
85. Leonard Cohen - Songs of Love and Hate
84. Iggy and the Stooges - Raw Power
83. The Slits - Cut
82. Nick Drake - Bryter Layter
81. The Beach Boys - Surf's Up
80. Neu! - Neu!
79. The Beatles - Let It Be
78. John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band
77. Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
76. Big Star - Third
75. John Cale - Paris 1919
74. Donna Summer - On the Radio
73. Miles Davis - A Tribute to Jack Johnson
72. Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On
71. Parliament - The Mothership Connection
70. Brian Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy)
69. VA - Saturday Night Fever
68. Wire - 154
67. Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy
66. Led Zeppelin - IV
65. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
64. Big Star - #1 Record
63. Black Sabbath - Paranoid
62. David Bowie - Station to Station
61. Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps
60. Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True
59. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
58. Bob Dylan - The Basement Tapes
57. The Congos - Heart of the Congos
56. Fleetwood Mac - Rumors
55. Ornette Coleman - Dancing in Your Head
54. Richard and Linda Thompson - I Want To See the Bright Lights Tonight
53. David Bowie - Hunky Dory
52. The Fall - Dragnet
51. Neil Young - Tonight's the Night
50. Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic
49. Roxy Music - Roxy Music
48. Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure
47. Stevie Wonder - Talking Book
46. Suicide - First Album
45. Miles Davis - On the Corner
44. Curtis Mayfield - Superfly
43. Steve Reich - Music For 18 Musicians
42. Talking Heads - More Songs About Buildings and Food
41. Neil Young - On the Beach
40. Gram Parsons - Grievous Angel
39. Wire - Chairs Missing
38. Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life
37. Can - Ege Bamyesi
36. Brian Eno - Another Green World
35. Serge Gainbourg - Histoire De Melody Nelson
34. Nick Drake - Pink Moon
33. Elvis Costello - This Year's Model
32. Neil Young - After the Goldrush
31. Big Star - Radio City
30. The Clash - The Clash
29. The Velvet Underground - Loaded
28. The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers
27. Wire - Pink Flag
26. Can - Tago Mago
25. David Bowie - Low
24. Joni Mitchell - Blue
23. Brian Eno - Here Come the Warm Jets
22. Ramones - Ramones
21. Al Green - Call Me
20. Kraftwerk - The Man Machine
19. The Stooges - Fun House
18. Michael Jackson - Off the Wall
17. VA - The Harder They Come
16. The Sex Pistols - Nevermind the Bollocks
15. The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers
14. David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust
13. Gang of Four - Entertainment
12. Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
11. The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street
10. Marvin Gaye - What's Goin' On
9. Buzzcocks - Singles Going Steady
8. PiL - Metal Box
7. Blondie - Parallel Lines
6. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
5. Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express
4. Television - Marquee Moon
3. Bob Dylan - Blood On the Tracks
2. The Clash - London Calling
1. Sly & the Family Stone - There's a Riot Goin' On

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pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 30 November 2009 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd actually love it if Tuomas or Gear were to run the 70s poll again next.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 30 November 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

hobart paving made a bit of a pig's ear of this really.

DavidM, Monday, 30 November 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd be happy to curate another take on the seventies poll (lord knows I spend enough time on the computer already).

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 November 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

woohoo!!!
Please dont limit nominations per person though!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 30 November 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll start a nominations thread as soon as the current poll wraps up, then.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 November 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

cool, looking forward to this

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 30 November 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck all other decades but the 70s imo

it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Monday, 30 November 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

there better be prog in the top 100 this time

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link


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