Best Miles Davis Album 1949-1974

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True, but the live records of that band are more exciting documents of that remapping than the studio records (which always struck me as relatively muted).

i dont agree with this at all. studio records largely were live recordings from this era and i would contend the difference is negligible, except the quality of the sound recording is worse.

deej, Saturday, 8 December 2007 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link

i went with bitches brew, it is one of the albums i want to listen to the most frequently. in a silent way would have been second. i think both are far better than kind of blue.

pipecock, Monday, 10 December 2007 00:07 (sixteen years ago) link

i dont agree with this at all. studio records largely were live recordings from this era and i would contend the difference is negligible, except the quality of the sound recording is worse.

I'm not sure what you mean...the studio recordings of the mid-60s quintet were recorded...um...in a studio. They were most likely recorded "live," that is, without overdubs or too much editing. But there was no audience present, other than the studio staff. Their live repertoire rarely incorporated any of their studio compositions (there's a handful of exceptions, like "Footprints").

I don't dislike the studio records at all, but what I love about the live records -- especially the Plugged Nickel box -- is the precariousness of it all, the heightened sense of risk-taking. Tempos were taken faster than in the studio, solos were investigated more thoroughly, and the interaction was more probing.

Sara Sara Sara, Monday, 10 December 2007 01:57 (sixteen years ago) link

voted for Filles de Kilimanjaro because i listen to it the most, but it was really a toss up between In a Silent Way, Get Up With It, Ascenseur pour l'Échafaud, Porgy and Bess, On the Corner, and probably a few others.... Hell, it would be hard for me even to pick the ten best.

Professor Respect, Monday, 10 December 2007 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Filles de Kilimanjaro deserves more love anyways...

Professor Respect, Monday, 10 December 2007 02:12 (sixteen years ago) link

A lot of these are going to get underrepped, but I I've had too many odysseys with In A Silent Way not to vote for it. Tho if we were comparing boxsets I'd probably give the nod to BB.

Cosmo Vitelli, Monday, 10 December 2007 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

it may be an obvious choice, but it should be said that Kind of Blue IS in fact an amazing album, no matter how much it's been hyped as such. and it is pretty unique in Miles discography -- something about the sound is pretty magical.

tylerw, Monday, 10 December 2007 03:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Get Up With It for the win.

A lot of the electric albums are fairly interchangeable in quality, given the overlapping in sessions and the extensive editing involved, its difficult to pinpoint one in particular that is somehow a more cohesive or engaging album (particularly when the music itself is not interested all that much in being cohesive).

I've become cozy enough with electric Miles to make quite legible distinctions between releases. No doubt Phil Freeman (and others) could make even finer distinctions. They may not be cohesive (keyword: may) but they've engaged me for years.

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 10 December 2007 04:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Plugged Nickel is too fast. That shit is nuts.

Jordan, Monday, 10 December 2007 05:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Bitches, but this is like getting a menu with all my favorite dishes and having someone tell me to pick one.

talrose, Monday, 10 December 2007 05:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Bitches ain't shit.

The Reverend, Monday, 10 December 2007 05:37 (sixteen years ago) link

(Actually, it's great. I just wanted to say that. I voted for Sketches.)

The Reverend, Monday, 10 December 2007 05:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I could have just as easily gone with Silent or Corner, but OPO.

The Reverend, Monday, 10 December 2007 05:39 (sixteen years ago) link

where is the VOTE FOR MILES option

haitch, Monday, 10 December 2007 10:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not sure what you mean...the studio recordings of the mid-60s quintet were recorded...um...in a studio. They were most likely recorded "live," that is, without overdubs or too much editing. But there was no audience present, other than the studio staff. Their live repertoire rarely incorporated any of their studio compositions (there's a handful of exceptions, like "Footprints").

yeah i might be overstating it, obv there is a difference in a different environment but the essence of the recording is still 'live,' whether yr playing it for studio hands or a bunch of dudes drinking at a bar and i think its pretty ridiculous to imply that the live recordings were 'all better' or something when there really isn't that much to differentiate them. or rather, when certain aspects (i.e. maybe the players were trying some new + more daring shit) are balanced out by others (recording technology for nightclubs at the time was WACK)

deej, Monday, 10 December 2007 10:39 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't know, i think there is a pretty big difference. some of the tunes on the records are really complex, and they got to rehearse and do multiple takes. live, on the other hand, they stuck to the older Miles tunes and standards (and just played them really fucking fast and deconstructoid). that said, i like the studio records better, they're more musical and more interesting to my ears.

Jordan, Monday, 10 December 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Round About Midnight, mostly because a lot of the early stuff (pre-59) seems under-appreciated, but also because I've heard it a hundred times at parties and in coffee shops, and still put it on for an afternoon groove.

abd tucker dummychuck, Monday, 10 December 2007 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link

One of the things I love on Plugged Nickel (and I guess other live stuff too) that I don't hear as much on the studio is Miles taking those extra-long pauses in the middle of his solos and letting the rhythm section fill everything in.

Hurting 2, Monday, 10 December 2007 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm voting for W(or|al)kin'

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 10 December 2007 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link

COOKIN W/THE MILES DAVIS QUINTET

(really a tie between cookin/workin/steamin/relaxin; like one album in four installments)
yup

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 10 December 2007 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link

workin' is my fave, so great

Jordan, Monday, 10 December 2007 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link

My choice changes daily but today it's On The Corner (and I MUST get that new box set)...

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 10 December 2007 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Man, looking at this list just reminds me of all the good stuff out there. Voted for "On the Corner" even though it makes me feel a bit like a johnny Come Lately hipster, but honestly of the half-dozen Miles albums I own, it's the only one I listen to. (Though the poll has inspired me to dig some stuff out, I think.)

mitya, Monday, 10 December 2007 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Hurrah for that!

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 10 December 2007 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link

how did i not see this poll. awesome.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 10 December 2007 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

This is going to be pretty close I think with lots of votes across the board (as it probably should be). I do wonder if A Kind Of Blue will get the lurker vote though.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Has anyone actually voted A Kind Of Blue?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Workin' for me.

Billy Pilgrim, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 05:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Workin' for the weekend.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 06:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Workin' seems to have as many votes as In A Silent Way so far and more than Bitches Brew and A Kind Of Blue

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 09:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I'm more wondering what albums wont get voted for. There's so many great albums in that list that certainly deserve one vote.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 11:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Tell that to the jazz drummers thread.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 11:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm the lurker vote, and I'm voting Porgy and Bess, as it's one of my favourite records ever. And also perfect.

Although I only own seven of these, and have only heard 11, so I may be missing out.

Jamie T Smith, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 12:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Has anyone actually voted A Kind Of Blue?

-- Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:18 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Link

I did. Not because I like it more than In a Silent Way or On the Corner or Porgy and Bess or about four or five others (is nobody voting for Birth of the Cool?) But because being the cliche choice it is it's not going to get nearly the votes it deserves on ILM.

The guy who just votes in polls, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's why I was asking. There's about a dozen albums or more that deserve 20 votes each!
I'd hate AKOB in this and Head Hunters in the Herbie Hancock poll to get left out as clichéd choice (though H H did win the previous poll.)

I'm surprised at the lack of mentions for Birth Of The Cool too, It may not be one of my favourites but it is a landmark album.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link

(unless it gets the lurker votes and wins haha)

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Birth of the Cool is great. altho Darn That Dream's vocal always irritated me.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link

i might vote for "miles smiles" or "ESP". musical equivalent of an eames lounge chair.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Every album will get 1 vote each! (Hurrah!)

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I voted Miles Smiles just cause I spent a semester studying it and dug really deep into everybody's solos, really feel like I *get* it more than anything else on the list.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I still want to know if some of the stuff like Live in Tokyo is worth getting. Anyone?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Live in Tokyo is wonderful, yeah. in a silent way gets my vote and is my desert island Miles if i *had* to pick one....but there are really a dozen i could pick

outdoor_miner, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Tokyo's a strange one. The band actually seems to take fewer risks with Sam Rivers on board (though in this context, "fewer risks" is a relative term). Definitely worth it...better if you can spring for the Seven Steps box, which also has the phenomenal Antibes date.

Sara Sara Sara, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I need to check that one out then too.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Cool, thanks dudes.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't even know that it's close to being best but Ascenseur pour l'Échafaud has the dearest memories attached to it for me.

Michael White, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link

shocker :)

Jordan, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 23:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Brit ILXor inside baseball?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 23:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link


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