it all but winks at you if you were on board with the last two, it whispers "oh, i *dare* you to declare it silly at this late stage" pretty much throughout. hugely irreverent imo
felt v much like a 60s/70s tv show (maybe not ~the~ tv show) at times in pacing and setup.
and not just for henry cavill's presence, but parts felt a bit like the man from uncle remake, the bits that worked like.
packed a lot of action in- a. lot. it should have suffered from fatigue but our audience at least was still jumping at the last few bashes and crashes
cross, swap, misdirection, double cross, triple cross, wait is the next twist what i thought it was, tons of that
i think it did an expert job of letting you see the next twist before the big reveal- three or four times throughout- so that even first time around you can enjoy the tells and double meanings
too long, got both too serious and too ridiculous in the final scenario, serious lack of coherent bad guys, no need at all for monaghan, id put it between iii and iv in a ranking
baldwin pwns
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 July 2018 23:56 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Wn41WPO.png
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 27 July 2018 00:45 (five years ago) link
i want to see this v much
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 July 2018 01:23 (five years ago) link
That Uhlich thing is ugh
The only thing worse than Rotten Tomato morons rageing at film critics is the film critics’ subsequent valedictory blog
“Why am I the only critic brave enough to speak the truth about Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time: The Movie? [quotes Henry James]”
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 27 July 2018 07:20 (five years ago) link
lol
― Number None, Friday, 27 July 2018 07:22 (five years ago) link
lotta Scientology allies in this motherfucker
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2018 11:42 (five years ago) link
lol chuck otm
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 27 July 2018 12:09 (five years ago) link
"the pall of perceived consensus"
board description?
― evol j, Friday, 27 July 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link
To the fanboys, the thin-skinned, those who would tag me with a scarlet 'C' for 'Contrarian,' and any discord-sowing Russian bots I say, come at me if you must. Just know that I follow Henry James' exhortation that "Three things in human life are important: The first is to be kind. The second is to be kind. And the third is to be kind." So you will receive the kindness of my silence as you howl into the void.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/square_small/2/22757/449293-01.jpg
― omar little, Friday, 27 July 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link
true kindness would have been to keep silent in the first place tbf
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 July 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link
idk if henry james was referring to the kindness of not getting into a twitter war
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 27 July 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link
i fuckin love the idea that 'discord-sowing russian bots' are getting involved in an utterly inconsequential twitter beef about whether the new m:i movie is any good
is there any low to which those meddling russians will not sink
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 July 2018 15:11 (five years ago) link
I predict that the next M:I film will take place entirely on Twitter.
― Things To Do For Dinner When You're Dad (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 July 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link
the writeup was ridiculous but knowing the internet he probably did take a lot of abuse so I'm tempted to call it even
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link
i fuckin love the idea that 'discord-sowing russian bots' are getting involved
glad you took this at face value
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link
Look at the comments section responding to a middle-to-bad review of any fanboy film, and read them in the voice of Comic Book Guy.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link
It's weird how simultaneously great and unmemorable these movies are! I remember that I loved watching 3, 4, and 5, but I literally can't remember a damn thing about them except that in one of them they jumped a sports car out of a dubai skyscraper.
― Dan I., Friday, 27 July 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link
sound "great" the way those Russian car-cam videos are
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link
OTM
― Dan I., Friday, 27 July 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link
https://shlabotnikreport.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/1992-star-pics-snl-grumpy-old-man.jpg
― Things To Do For Dinner When You're Dad (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
so if I was enh on the last one should I see this or nah
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 28 July 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link
how do you feel about action scenes?
― mh, Saturday, 28 July 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
after revisiting it last night rogue nation is def my favorite, i can only assume the new one is rogue nationier
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 July 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
its not tbh
its more like iii
simon if u didnt like the last one i dunno what to say to you tbh
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 July 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link
should clarify its more like three in how nuts/silly it gets
its like rogue nation and iv in how it doesnt try to imbue a super srs tone in with this
saw an ilxor note how ronin some of the sequences are which is also true
baldwin is damn near drebin in his few minutes but perfectly so
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 July 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link
I may have missed it but where was the alleged rogue nation? It seemed more like maybe 20 people, a rogue agency at most.
― Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link
once u have nuclear capability u r a nation de facto iirc
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link
Did the Sybdicate have nukes in RN? I'm thinking it was exaggeration to get funding out of the committee.
― Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link
While I can't call this one lifeless or joyless (it is self-aware and irreverent... mostly), it seemed to lack in color and imagination and inspiration and characters and interesting set pieces and good joeks/exchnages. It's weird, even though it was long, it wasn't a slog, but still felt drab. Pretty big disappointment ime.
Also, MI usually delivers on gadgets and future-tech and cools cars and luxe life portrayals, a la Bond -- almost none of that in this one.
― antisocal (rip van wanko), Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link
its a tonally weird effort, true
― Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:23 (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
now im only asking but by any chance are you a civil servant because yr thought patterns suggest its an excellent fit
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link
IMF justifying its existence and securing funding is a major part of the plot of this exciting action film, it's not something I invented.
― Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link
true, true
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 July 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link
I think they were a rogue nation in the context of intelligence agencies. Like they were the equivalent of the CIA or MI6 with a similar level of funding, but not tied to an actual country
in the Mission: Impossible world, civilians are virtually nonexistent except as a card to play when you need to threaten another group
― mh, Saturday, 28 July 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
or in the case of the new movie, the last scenes play out somewhere where there presumably are civilians, but we don’t see them! maybe the budget for extras ran out
― mh, Saturday, 28 July 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link
.....it was a funny place to put a hospital wasnt it?
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 July 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link
I mean I think the implication was that the people near there were nomadic or spread out in nearby small villages, buuuut
― mh, Saturday, 28 July 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link
https://letterboxd.com/thejoshl/film/mission-impossible-fallout/
good sorta-kinda rebuttal to/expansion on uhlich's piece
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 July 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link
I think that gets at why these down't do much for me unless they're imbued with a little something extra (like the wit in the Burj Khalifa sequence) - the daredevil thrills don't do much for me on their own and I start to feel like I'm watching a very expensive Scientology ad.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 28 July 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link
I hope Tom Cruise has it written in his will that if he dies doing a stunt in one of these movies that they’re obligated to release it including the shot where he bites it
― mh, Saturday, 28 July 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link
and that Ferguson takes over as Ethan Hunt in the following shot
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 28 July 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link
is tom cruise a scientologist
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 July 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link
must write that into my next message board post review of an action movie he is in
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 July 2018 23:31 (five years ago) link
the bit where he wins because of xenu now makes more sense
as the Letterboxd review so eloquently puts it, Cruise and Hunt are inseparable and I don't think it's nuts to be persistently reminded of his Scientology exploits when considering his single-minded dedication to proving himself as the ultimate movie star!
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 28 July 2018 23:48 (five years ago) link
this would not be the case if the movies weren't so obviously paper-thin beyond serving as a vehicle for Cruise/Hunt's awesomeness, but they are. and that's fine for most people, with variable degrees of success for me personally. I'm earnestly glad ppl have a franchise they can get behind and I begrudge no one's enjoyment!
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 28 July 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link
ok, granting that
whats different about the beliefs of every movie hero as proxy?
that cruise's beliefs are scientology as opposed to apple pie/individualism/liberal humanism?
dunno what makes cruise an exception, any star that plays the hero should be held to the same standard by yr argument.
and tbh even if you do that, eh you shouldnt. its just movies.
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 July 2018 00:50 (five years ago) link
I am all for Tom Cruise playing paper-thin bizarre everyman wish-fulfillment characters. Someone could probably do a thesis on how none of his action characters have an internal life, it’s completely externalized. The MI movies seem like the plot elements trying to give the character backstory seem like they’re in a constant state of course correction post-Abrams chapter: he can’t be anything other than the spy/cipher
The science fiction roles he’s taken are amazing examples: in Oblivion he’s literally a clone with a programmed mission, but breaking free from that means finding a way to live this all-american dream of collecting detritus of the american past and living in a cabin with a beautiful woman. Edge of Tomorrow? He’s a virtual blank slate and the movie is about programming him, via time travel, to become a hero.
And “Ethan” is probably the most distinct he gets. His name is just “Jack” in several films now
― mh, Sunday, 29 July 2018 00:51 (five years ago) link
well hes never played an interesting character, i mean he has been the template for jock assholes who need to get drunk and cry in the alley behind the bar 2/3 of the way through the story before they man up and win the day by just doing what they did in the olening sequence but *really meaning it*
wait did i segue into that routine about tom cruise
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 July 2018 00:57 (five years ago) link
Edge of Tomorrow is def the ultimate Cruise role, we take pleasure in his repeated obliteration while he builds a hero narrative over countless existences
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Sunday, 29 July 2018 01:07 (five years ago) link
Xp sorry man, I was sitting there with the stick holding up the box and put the bait out, didn’t think you’d walk in
― mh, Sunday, 29 July 2018 01:08 (five years ago) link