Mission: Impossible

man a Joe Carnahan M:I would have been...something.

Carnahan regrets that cinemagoers never got to see his version.

He says, “Were we going to do something that would have kicked the s**t out of the movie they wound up doing?

“Absolutely. I’m not even going to shy away from that. I know the film we made was going to be better because I thought it was important. And the movie we were making was about private military and what’s going on in Africa.

“I had Kenneth Branagh playing a guy who’s based on Timothy McVeigh. And I think the cast that we had–Ken, Carrie-Anne Moss, Scarlett Johansson–that’s the biggest heartbreak for me because I saw how amazing they would have been.

“If you would have seen Carrie-Anne Moss move with a handgun after a month and a half, it would have blown your mind.

“And we had flat-out the two best mask reveals in the franchise history. Like those mask pulls dealt with major plot stuff. They weren’t just these cartoony things.”

wtaf at this shocking mistreatment of the greatest line ever uttered

― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:59 AM (forty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

deems i'm explicitly on this board to troll you, get used to it

my issue with mi3 is that it's ugly as sin

The budget on that thing was $150 mil and it looks like trash.

that description of the hypothetical Carnahan one sounds equal parts amazing and horrific

MI2 has major issues but at least it looks major-scale.

it's especially noticeable when you're watching all of them bc the rest of the movies are p beautiful and have outstanding individual shots (the scene of kristin scott thomas wandering through the blue fog in the first one knocked me out recently and i've seen that movie a million times bc i was obsessed with it as a kid.) mi3 has the color palette of quake 1

the whole dinner party scene intro might actually be an alias episode with the dialogue hastily rewritten

fuck I might have to rewatch some of these now. I still haven't seen the fifth one

Rogue Nation is ugly as hell, too!

xp imagine the fourth movie, only with the rhythm of Jack Reacher and then throw a group trying to be SPECTRE into the MI landscape, only done fairly minimally

i still have to rewatch that one but i'm pretty sure i disagree (possibly i am so dumbstruck by the visuals in the fallout trailers that my memory has totally visually redesigned rogue nation) xp

I'm loathe to compare anything to the really overwrought Bond movies of late, but I swear the villain of Rogue Nation was shown footage of Mr. White from the Bond films and told "deliver lines kind of like that"

Rogue Nation looks great. It’s a little more visually close-quarters than Ghost Protocol and doesn’t rise to it but it’s p thrilling aesthetically nonetheless.

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Is PSH the only memorable villain in these movies? I feel like it's their persistent weakspot.

first twenty minutes of m:i actually kinda scared the shit out of me when i was a kid, especially emilio estevez's death

the fluctuation between czernay and voight as the antagonist in it is actually pretty solid villainy imo

Main fail for me in Ghost Protocol is the lovely yet decidedly terrible Paula Patton.
Rewatched RN two nights ago and it just looked like a monochrome sludge and pretty much all of it in medium shots.

Czerny was super good playing those icy govt bureaucrats. See also: Clear and Present Danger.

cobalt in ghost protocol is kind of a non-entity but the real villain in that film is nuclear annihilation

PSH coasts in MI3. He’s pretty memorable but also very much the type of bad guy who lasts on episode of a TV show. Which is what that movie felt like anyway.

Most memorable villains probably the three headed monster of Voight/Redgrave/Reno in the first one.

hard for me to think of max as a villain

i love the max callback in ghost protocol, where hunt requests a meeting with an arms dealer and they make him wear the same hood

oh i guess she is a villain bc she wants that list of deep-cover operatives but idk she's so much fun, redgrave rules in that movie

Love how she’s totally into Ethan once she thinks he’s legit, drops the steel and turns on the flirting.

imo they should redeem Monaghan's thankless presence in these movies by making her the baddie in the next one (esp since he more or less inducts her into the killing game in MI:III)

I'd actually be all-in for the "Ethan, we don't do things that way!" junk in the trailers be a foreshadowing of the character actually cracking and Cruise's character cracks and is straight-up shooting people in the face for half the movie. I mean, they won't, buuuut....

Is PSH the only memorable villain in these movies? I feel like it's their persistent weakspot.

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:14 (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no way sean harris pwns

minority report

https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/mission-impossible-fallout

http://www.keithuhlich.com/2018/07/a-little-more-on-mission-impossible-fallout.html

i enjoy relentless spectacle if it's fun and these movies tend to be fun

discouraged by his repeated references to the dark knight but surely the action is shot better

I am powerless against well-crafted action trash, so I'll be seeing this Sunday.

finally watched Rogue Nation yesterday and found it mostly a chore so I guess I should sit this one out

this movie has so much fun with how ridiculous it is

^^^ what i wanna hear

it all but winks at you if you were on board with the last two, it whispers "oh, i *dare* you to declare it silly at this late stage" pretty much throughout. hugely irreverent imo

felt v much like a 60s/70s tv show (maybe not ~the~ tv show) at times in pacing and setup.

and not just for henry cavill's presence, but parts felt a bit like the man from uncle remake, the bits that worked like.

packed a lot of action in- a. lot. it should have suffered from fatigue but our audience at least was still jumping at the last few bashes and crashes

cross, swap, misdirection, double cross, triple cross, wait is the next twist what i thought it was, tons of that

i think it did an expert job of letting you see the next twist before the big reveal- three or four times throughout- so that even first time around you can enjoy the tells and double meanings

too long, got both too serious and too ridiculous in the final scenario, serious lack of coherent bad guys, no need at all for monaghan, id put it between iii and iv in a ranking

baldwin pwns

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i want to see this v much

That Uhlich thing is ugh

The only thing worse than Rotten Tomato morons rageing at film critics is the film critics’ subsequent valedictory blog

“Why am I the only critic brave enough to speak the truth about Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time: The Movie? [quotes Henry James]”

lol

lotta Scientology allies in this motherfucker

lol chuck otm

"the pall of perceived consensus"

board description?

To the fanboys, the thin-skinned, those who would tag me with a scarlet 'C' for 'Contrarian,' and any discord-sowing Russian bots I say, come at me if you must. Just know that I follow Henry James' exhortation that "Three things in human life are important: The first is to be kind. The second is to be kind. And the third is to be kind." So you will receive the kindness of my silence as you howl into the void.

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true kindness would have been to keep silent in the first place tbf

idk if henry james was referring to the kindness of not getting into a twitter war

i fuckin love the idea that 'discord-sowing russian bots' are getting involved in an utterly inconsequential twitter beef about whether the new m:i movie is any good

is there any low to which those meddling russians will not sink

I predict that the next M:I film will take place entirely on Twitter.

the writeup was ridiculous but knowing the internet he probably did take a lot of abuse so I'm tempted to call it even

i fuckin love the idea that 'discord-sowing russian bots' are getting involved

glad you took this at face value