U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Nino Edition

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Think Hennessy is arguing that the dem attacks will be based on investigations into the president and not about the law

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:13 (five years ago) link

The law is easier to tapdance around and not say anything controversial

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:14 (five years ago) link

Is the idea that democrats will be able to hold "hypocrisy" over him because he was part of the Starr investigation but later 180'd and said presidential investigations are a big waste of time and shouldn't happen?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:16 (five years ago) link

Our Democratic colleagues cry wolf whenever a Republican president nominates anyone to the Supreme Court. No matter their qualifications. No matter their record. No matter their reputation. It’s the same hyperbole. The same accusations. The same old story. #SCOTUSnominee

— Leader McConnell (@SenateMajLdr) July 9, 2018

remember when this motherfucker said he would oppose any nominee Obama put forth like one day after Scalia died

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:18 (five years ago) link

he's one of the worst people i can think of currently alive, probably top five. just don't say he is like a 'turtle' or some shit because that is so boring and lame

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:24 (five years ago) link

Is the idea that democrats will be able to hold "hypocrisy" over him because he was part of the Starr investigation but later 180'd and said presidential investigations are a big waste of time and shouldn't happen?

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, July 9, 2018 10:16 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think the idea is that dems will be able to say "the president clearly nominated this man so he could exonerate himself from the wide-ranging investigation into his misconduct." it's a good line of attack. the more trump's naked corruption is publicly discussed, the better.

supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:24 (five years ago) link

xpost

yeah, and then there was that famous meeting of top GOP cronies the night of obama's inauguration where they agreed to oppose every single obama initiative possible. admittedly mcconnell wasn't present at that one, but it just goes to show how thoroughly the GOP executed this strategy a decade ago

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link

xp yeah that part I get I just don't understand what difference it makes that he was part of the Starr investigation

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:34 (five years ago) link

weak credibility re the dignity of the presidency

j., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:43 (five years ago) link

credibility is overrated

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:44 (five years ago) link

Also, Roger Stone is apparently not a Kavanaugh fan. pic.twitter.com/Q11DenFJni

— Kevin Roose (@kevinroose) July 10, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:45 (five years ago) link

I don't think Trump cares a fig what Roger Stone thinks about the SCOTUS.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:47 (five years ago) link

Come to think of it, neither do I.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:51 (five years ago) link

While working for Ken Starr in 1998, Kavanagh routinely skirted or violated Rule 6 (e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure by leaking details of Lewinsky probe.Mueller’s team obeys the law; Starr’s didn’t. Reporters didn’t bust Brett because they benefitted. Will one now?

— Jonathan Alter (@jonathanalter) July 10, 2018



I was a newsmagazine editor in those days (not for same one @jonalter was working for).

My recollection (via our reporters) matches what Jon is saying here about BK’s approach. https://t.co/yjszlxaJdS

— James Fallows (@JamesFallows) July 10, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 05:29 (five years ago) link

Not saying they're wrong, but how do they know exactly that Mueller's team doesn't also do this?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 05:33 (five years ago) link

Because they know who’s leaking to them and who isn’t? If someone from the Mueller report is leaking, journalists across the board are being incredibly tight-lipped about it, is my impression.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 06:03 (five years ago) link

Source familiar tells NBC that Justice Kennedy had been in negotiations with the Trump team for months over Kennedy’s replacement. Once Kennedy received assurances that it would be Kavanaugh (his former law clerk) Kennedy felt comfortable retiring - @LACaldwellDC & @frankthorp

— Geoff Bennett (@GeoffRBennett) July 10, 2018

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 12:26 (five years ago) link

So the other nominees were all for show?
Sad to see that Trump is taking this as seriously as the set up for Gorsuch where he got the competition to drive half way across the country to be turned down.
Speaks of a level of trivialisation of what should be a role with recognised weight don't it?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 13:02 (five years ago) link

I can't really get too worked up about this revelation. It's not like there's a world in which Trump makes an actually decent pick for SCOTUS. The only people getting screwed here are the other top candidates, all of whom I'm sure are equally as ghoulish as Kavanaugh.

evol j, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 13:56 (five years ago) link

One final thought: I think Trump has handed Senate Democrats an absolute gift in nominating the principal author of the Starr report

I'm sure the Senate Dems are thrilled for a chance to remind everyone that they stood in lockstep support of a p.o.s. President who sent out surrogates to lie for him daily

President Keyes, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link

I can't really get too worked up about this revelation. It's not like there's a world in which Trump makes an actually decent pick for SCOTUS. The only people getting screwed here are the other top candidates, all of whom I'm sure are equally as ghoulish as Kavanaugh.

― evol j, Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:56 AM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM, this doesn't matter. There's no requirement that the president have any particular kind of process in choosing his nominee, and there's nothing improper about having someone in mind in advance.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link

Are we sure about that

a sitting justice was in private negotiations with the white house while deciding cases that trump was a party to or had taken a public position on

— mark (@kept_simple) July 10, 2018

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link

Among the many awful things about Kavanaugh, I'm not terribly worked up. Worse is the shit regarding Kennedy's son.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link

*worked up about the meetings with Trump

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

American Family Association nuts no like Kav, fwiw

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link

Canon 2 A Judge Should Avoid Impropriety and the Appearance of Impropriety in all Activities.

B Outside Influence A judge should not allow family, social, political, financial, or other relationships to influence judicial conduct or judgment. A judge should neither lend the prestige of the judicial office to advance the private interests of the judge or others nor convey or permit others to convey the impression that they are in a special position to influence the judge. A judge must avoid all impropriety and appearance of impropriety. This prohibition applies to both professional and personal conduct. A judge must expect to be the subject of constant public scrutiny and accept freely and willingly restrictions that might be viewed as burdensome by the ordinary citizen. Because it is not practicable to list all prohibited acts, the prohibition is necessarily cast in general terms that extend to conduct by judges that is harmful although not specifically mentioned in the Code.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link

you guys are going to shit when you read about Lewis Powell

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

Securocrats are comforted that Kavanaugh's nomination reflects politics as usual. He won't care about mass surveillance or double-tapping Yemeni funerals, so it's fine pic.twitter.com/oB9ORZdi9P

— Jacob (@SilvermanJacob) July 10, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

you guys are going to shit when you read about Lewis Powell

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive),

and William Douglas!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link

from my perch the intra-conservative disagreements over Kavanaugh that have emerged so far seem very narcissism of small differences.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link

Conservatives are narcissistic and they are small.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link

it's fun to think about this argument—that the presidency is a high-wire act of constant work and stress that requires maximal attention—in the context of the current president, who refuses to read his Kidz Korner briefings and plays golf and houses Big Macs in front of the tube https://t.co/Og2ARNKYf0

— John Cook (@johnjcook) July 10, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link

there is no legal solution to President Manbaby for precisely this reason/legal angle. The only real surefire solution is a political, i.e. congressional, one. Which is why people shouldn't be pinning their hopes on state AGs or Mueller or Stormy Daniels.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link

AFA has reversed their objections to Kavanaugh; someone got blown i guess

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link

welp

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link

lol:

And a key Republican swing vote, Senator Susan Collins of Maine, quickly signaled just how hard it will be for Democrats to pull any Republicans into the opposition. “When you look at the credentials that Judge Kavanaugh brings to the job, it will be very difficult for anyone to argue that he’s not qualified,” she told reporters.

Sure didn't take long!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

hours of careful deliberation, including sleep

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link

hey she's just judging him on the merits (of being a Republican)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link

tbf this is the second half of Collins' quote

“But there are other issues involving judicial temperament and his political, or rather, his judicial philosophy that also will play into my decision.”

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

political, or rather judicial

how about that.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

love the interactive map at the bottom of this article

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/09/mitch-mcconnell-heckled-louisville-restaurant-again/767148002/

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link

lmao

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link

Chao confronted the protesters saying, "you leave my husband alone. Leave my husband alone."

fuck off Elaine

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link

she should get heckled too. complicit piece of shit

maura, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

Oh they were yelling at her too

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link

in other news - ratings down! Sad!

An estimated 25.6 million people watched President Trump announce that Brett Kavanaugh will be his second Supreme Court nominee.

That's down from the 32.4 million people who saw Trump's similar prime-time announcement of Neil Gorsuch's nomination last year, the Nielsen company says. Summertime television viewership is generally lighter than in the winter, when Gorsuch was picked.

Fox News Channel had the biggest audience for the announcement, with 6.6 million people. Trump defender Sean Hannity anchored Fox News' coverage of the event.

ABC won among the three broadcast networks. ABC interrupted an episode of "The Bachelorette" for the announcement.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link

don't they factor out viewers who were already watching and couldn't be bothered to give up on their interrupted programming

j., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link

controversial opinion -- there is probably not a good reason for any republican to oppose kavanaugh

k3vin k., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link


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