2008 Primaries Thread

yes

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?

or were you saying yes to the last question

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mccain can't win florida or california or missouri?

Look at the states he won today. He was swept in the South. He won the Northeast. Yes, he won California. That does soften the picture for him.

I think the lesson from all these delegate counts is that no one knows a fucking thing, really. I do wish they would start showing delegate counts w/o the superdelegates, though--seems like a concession to the Clinton camp.

Anyway, I'm going to go to bed and hope Cali looks better when I wake up.

anyway i'm not trying to play cpt save-a-rove, just saying he was a good talking head

He is a good talking (pin) head.

Rocked out with Ellison & Rybak tonight. Obama fever in MN. Way beyond expectations. Minneapolis killed!

ughhhhhhhh fuck you california
bunch of tards voting for edwards

dude where was that?? i... did laundry after voting

xp

the Edwards people voted before he dropped out

morons

yeah, absentee voting didnt really help this early, now, did it

Obama's a full percentage point ahead in MO with 99% in.

Clinton won 5 McCain states, 2 Huckabee states and 1 Romney state
Obama won 4 McCain states, 2 Huckabee states and 4 Romney states

couldnt cali stick to sucking schwarzennager's cock and stop fucking up national elections too

Calm down, Beavis.

My name is Californiholio! I require TP for my bunghole!

capn save a cali

if he carries NM, obama will have taken every super2zday caucus state

CNN estimates that, across the Democratic primaries, Barack Obama got 48% of the popular vote and Hillary Clinton 49%.

Deej, as noted above, that 11% for Edwards doubtless drew on a hell of a lot of early votes made when he was still in the race. On the GOP side, Giuliani pulled in about that amount in turn last I checked. I agree that's a flaw but it's not a unique one to California's setup.

Meantime, had things been winner-take-all in California, instead of scoring a share of delegates from California, Obama might have had NO delegates. And the superdelegate situation, which is indeed kinda ridiculous, is a national party deal rather than a state one.

Just saying.

i miss edwards already

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=95

for lolz

new mexico very close, bill richardson's beard unable to seal the deal yet

I find it kinda weird that you guys have such a democratic way of choosing presidential candidates (ordinary people actually get to vote for them - in here choosing a candidate is done inside the party), yet a democratically questionable way of choosing the actual president (the one who gets a bigger amount of votes on a national level might still not win).

tell me about it

the county data indicate that while Obama beat Hillary in Republican territory in Connecticut, Idaho, Illinois*, Minnesota*, and Utah, they pretty much split Republican territory in Alabama, Colorado, Delaware, and Georgia (where Hillary did better in the most Republican parts), and Hillary won the map in Missouri.

*for the most part

upshot for me is Obama is more popular (or less unpopular) in the rural, outdoor-oriented West/the more pacifist Northern tier, including the upper Midwest, while Hillary's still equal or better among whites through the Southern tier, including the lower Midwest.

Alaska's coming in...looks like Mitt in the lead

(among democratic primary voters, of course)

x-post -- In the fine tradition of Ted Stevens and Don Young

Mitt could win THE BIGGEST STATE!

(..in square miles)

and grizzly bear population

God damn it, Ned. Don't mention Ted Stevens around me. I tend to lose my temper.

Dj Grizz shillin' for the Roms

(sent 46 mins ago)

Friend --

The votes will be counted into the night and into tomorrow, but today we won states and we won delegates in every part of the country.

As of right now, we have won more states and delegates than Senator Clinton. It's a remarkable achievement we can all be proud of.

Tonight, we know one thing for sure -- our time has come, our movement is real, and change is coming to America.

At this moment in history, the stakes are too high and the challenges too great to play the same Washington game with the same Washington players and expect a different result.

This time must be different.

There will be those who say it cannot be done. But we know what we have seen and what we believe -- that when ordinary people come together we can still do extraordinary things.

Yes, we can.

Thank you so much,

Barack

Donate

Downtown Seattle this Friday is going to be nuts.

We want pics,

and free promo shit

States Obama won with (so far) more than 60% of the vote:

Colorado
Georgia
Idaho (over 70%)
Illinois
Kansas (over 70%)
Minnesota
North Dakota

States Clinton won with (so far) more than 60% of the vote:

Arkansas

So why is the press all "Clinton won!" over here then?

hillary won states she's lived in or states next door to them, states dominated by urban liberals, and a state dominated by old white folks and hispanics. obama won states with significant populations of independents, southerners, and rural folks.

What the shit? Tennessee and Oklahoma vs Alabama and Georgia? Which old white people, southerners, and rural folks are next door and count more than others? Connecticut urban liberals vs New Jersey urban liberals? I'm not getting it. Obama won big in caucus states with very few Dems which we don't have a prayer of winning in the general election, this is true..

We haven't gotten to the GE yet. That's the point. Rove is doing a good job in distracting youze guys very well.

Suppose Obama wins the Dem nomination.

How many Hillary supporters today are going to vote for McCain or another GOP over Obama?

States Clinton won with (so far) more than 60% of the vote:

Arkansas

but cnn says obama has 75% in AK?

oh wait, when i actually click on the candidate links, clinton is sweeping AK, so the front page is fucked up.

AK = Alaska

as far as the media's concerned they split today right down the middle. Neither of them lost ground. She'll get a few more delegates out of it, but he's better prepared to take the next round and the momentum has been swinging in his favor for the last month or so. Today isn't going to stop that, since they'll both spin victory. Things look slightly in his favor, depending on the superdelegates.

Either way I think a protracted battle with her has it's upsides for the GE: it increases his visibility, sharpens his debate, and possibly kills criticisms that aren't picking up traction.

McCain can't be president? (born in the Panama Canal Zone, which isn't technically the USA)

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019165.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen#Children_born_outside_the_United_States_to_American_parents

so if he's elected and Congress says he's not a natural born citizen, then... (?)

The McCain thing is an interesting twist! hmmm...