Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

murdered by the Martian bus drivers’ union

the grimes body-autonomy defense strike force has logged on

cap'n save-a-capacity-to-sell-tickets reporting for duty

This thread is bonkers.

Lads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTvanzhR6ok

this thread was the best of grimes, it was the worst of grimes

infinite love without fulfillment

come on guys if Bill Maher can date Ann Coulter, surely any hatchet can be buried at least long enough to have bomb sex

haha, she never said she was skeeved out by poor people, that was y’all putting words in her mouth!

I will give you ten guesses as to what "sketchy" is usually code for and the first nine don't count.

Pardon a "chime in" but the internet's response to Grimes x Musk has boiled over in my kitchen and turned into calcified anger

Any "it is important for our faves to be non-problematic" narrative is completely idiotic and just masking bald-faced toxic-fan entitlement to Grimes' body-autonomy

She should be and is allowed to date whomever she pleases without it having any effect on her capacity to make and sell records and tickets

I hope she is having bomb sex and romantic dinners with her gross rich boyfriend and I can't wait for her new album

― nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:11 AM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well it's one thing she is dating Elon Musk, which I'm cool with whatever floats her boats down the Mississippi river, but when she is actively defending union-busting and ripping into public transport she is fair game as any other artist.

It's not hard to imagine similar situations with similar reactions. For example, if the dude from the War on Drugs started defending the IDF's recent actions in Gaza, it would be very fair to criticize him on that. If a famous hip-hop artist started wearing a MAGA baseball cap, it would be very fair to criticize him on that... Now it's up to anyone to decide if that affects their views of Grimes and it's up to anyone to decide how they respond to the upcoming record and tour. So it follows that it's up to anyone to decide how they respond to an artist's problematic views or actions and the idea that their sales shouldn't be affected is kinda gross in general.

thread keeps going from strength to strength, great work team

― i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 7:48 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just wanna reiterate this folks

we rounded up a skilled team, brought our A game to drill down on core deliverables and put together actionable strategic staircase where the rubber meets the road

let's hear it for team infinity

David

I will give you ten guesses as to what "sketchy" is usually code for and the first nine don't count.

She said “it’s hella overcrowded, late, sketchy in most cities I’ve lived in” – you read “sketchy” as “full of poor people”?

true, she could have meant "brown people"

based on my experience of Americans talking about buses, yes

in los angeles, i've noticed people definitely using that line of argument

"sketchy" is absolutely a code word

ime

yeah her use of sketchy is sketchy to say the least

this is a very bad thread

xposts
if y'all say so... Her next line was "[I've] been violently assualted on public transit twice", so I assumed that was what she meant. Reasonable ppl can disagree on whether the solution to public transport's ills are weird space-age tunnel cars, but I'm sure we've all learned to be aware of our surroundings on the train.

can we go back to arguing about whether the realiti demo is better

(the demo of realiti is better at least than actual reality)

what exactly is Elon Musk’s solution to that age-old problem and how is it solved by undercutting public transport and forcing workers to operate in unsafe conditions?

Musk's public transit proposals are idiotic and specifically designed to undermine other, better thought-out and better-funded efforts already underway

realiti still song of the decade, demo or not

well, I prefer the album version.

I wonder which version Elon prefers

I mean how is she not doing what Sean describes in her tweet

― Simon H., Tuesday, May 22, 2018 11:45 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

‘Speaking as someone who has been sexually assaulted and likes a Grimes song, public transit in Los Angeles is good’

this is a very bad thread

― gbx, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 12:41 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what exactly is Elon Musk’s solution to that age-old problem and how is it solved by undercutting public transport and forcing workers to operate in unsafe conditions?

― gyac, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 12:51 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Elon Musk

what exactly is Elon Musk’s solution to that age-old problem and how is it solved by undercutting public transport and forcing workers to operate in unsafe conditions?

― gyac, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:51 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Musk's public transit proposals are idiotic and specifically designed to undermine other, better thought-out and better-funded efforts already underway

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:52 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

See, this is so much better (honestly) than "this person I disagree with is arguing in bad faith and probably a bad person, to boot"

take discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musk
take discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musk
take discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musk
take discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musk
take discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musk

I mean how is she not doing what Sean describes in her tweet

― Simon H., Tuesday, May 22, 2018 11:45 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

‘Speaking as someone who has been sexually assaulted and likes a Grimes song, public transit in Los Angeles is good’

― flopson, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 1:02 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the grimes song is about assault and also the way that she argues against public transit is to invoke assault, and the point of the tweet was to express that the author of the tweet had felt connected to grimes at first due to the resonance of the song but now feels horrified at the same sort of resonance being invoked in the service of attacking public transit.

how are people this bad at context and interpretation posting on a message board involves, ostensibly, the process of understanding artistic production

i understand that. the tweet is only not a non sequitir after like 5 steps of bad-faith readings into what she said. rather than dignify it with a charitable close-reading i chose the rhetorical maneuver of demonstrating its incoherence by removing all implications derived by aspersions about her motives. how are people this bad at context and interpretation posting on a message board involves, ostensibly, the process of understanding artistic production

"rather than admit i understood the tweet i decided to pretend i didn't and deliberately misread it as a 'rhetorical maneuver'"

wtffffff

owning people online by deliberately acting like a moron, impressive rhetorical maneuver sparky

guys, guys, what if this thing was actually something else entirely? wouldn't that be dumb! zing!

it was a dumb tweet come on

grimes replyer: public transit is already safe and cheap

grimes: ive been assaulted twice on public transit, its very to get around LA without a car

left twitter guy: i, too, have been assaulted, and i like a song by grimes about assault. i am disappointed that [everything beyond this is from my imagination]

fu for making me do the earnest version

it's just.... so fucking stupid. this thread sux. twitter sux. who gives a fuck about any of this

i have heard the use of sketchy to mean "dangerous" as opposed to "there are poor people around." i've seen woman manhandled on public transit in L.A., i know women who don't like riding public transit as a result of similar experiences. it often happens late at night, drunk dudes coming back from partying, people trying to grab someone in a crowded space and then peace out at the next stop, people grabbing purses, whatever. i myself don't feel unsafe but i'm not the usual type of target.

Maria Sherman educates the car people

https://jalopnik.com/your-guide-to-grimes-and-elon-musk-the-most-bewilderin-1826229106

that article sums up the clusterfuck in this thread, but this:

releasing music from a slew of hyper-talented electro-pop musicians that would go on to define a certain ‘00s warehouse party, Montreal sound

uh, this is dumb

that warehouse party sound was happening in vancouver before it hit montreal

i know because i was there foolio!

uh, this is dumb

that warehouse party sound was happening in vancouver before it hit montreal

i know because i was there foolio!

― F# A# (∞), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 1:55 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

man and i thought us Montrealers were insecure about our standing in north america

vancouver is a very weird place.

i mean it's not something i bring up first, but it says so in the article so might as well mention it

it's called fact-checking bros