Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

while this whole thing is still so bizarre, it's not that surprising looking back 6 years ago when she was doing interviews for Visions and when journalists would ask her about her influences she'd say Mariah Carey, all these pop stars, instead of idk, Cabaret Voltaire or Warm Leatherette or something. that was shocking to me at the time. makes sense that she'd want to jump from 4AD to Columbia or something. and the idea that artists have to be "good people" or have "good politics" for one to be able to enjoy their work is absurd, art is not about the morality of the artist. will we get love songs written about/for elon musk? yes. will it matter if they bang like Oblivion or REALiTi or Flesh without Blood? No

You need to have lived in LA to understand it though xp.

the idea that artists have to be "good people" or have "good politics" for one to be able to enjoy their work is absurd, art is not about the morality of the artist.

there's like several novels-worth of ilx posts on this subject and personally i'd recommend not zooming out in this way

she signed to Roc-a-Fella 4 years ago. besides occasional tweets about the Standing Rock or how much Stephen Harper sucked, her politics in practice have been obvious for a while. Jay-Z and Beyonce are capitalists - I think it just comes down to Elon Musk being goofy as fuck, really ugly, and his absurd and dangerous hatred of the color yellow. which are all legitimate reasons to hate Elon Musk and be upset that Grimes is dating him I suppose. but it's not her politics, it just seems like a total jump the shark moment aesthetically. the leap from Jay-Z's politics to Musk's is not that big at all.

xp true

if only not to derail this thread further into the twilight zone

Literally the only reasons to be the slightest bit aggrieved, upset or concerned about any of this is if
A) You were treating electro-pop musician/online person Grimes as a model for ethics under capitalism
B) You were hope she would blap you one day

Both of these things make you a fucking psycho and the FBI needs to have at least half the white men posting about Grimes on the internet on some sort of list

Whiney OTM

is this concurrent with the rap genius investigation?

I wonder if my friend who works for Tesla could score me some Grimes merch

kids upset at grimes are just immature

and music attracts the most immature older people out of all the arts

part of the whole peter pan thing but it applies to music listeners as well

the kids I knew when I was a teen who looked up to musicians and artists as role models are doing some pretty great things in the world today and are pretty well-adjusted adults

xp it's almost as if you're saying we should re-think making false idols of pop stars or something

xp

right but they're also not ragging on grimes

xp

that's not an mra thing per se, but goes back to the bible, i mean if you want to turn every conservative opinion into an mra opinion go ahead but it is misguided

Literally the only reasons to be the slightest bit aggrieved, upset or concerned about any of this is if
A) You were treating electro-pop musician/online person Grimes as a model for ethics under capitalism
B) You were hope she would blap you one day

Both of these things make you a fucking psycho and the FBI needs to have at least half the white men posting about Grimes on the internet on some sort of list

― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:16 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is true. All political relationships to artists are driven by unrequited lust.I always knew in my heart of hearts that Kanye would throw over Kim for me, which is why the whole maga thing was especially devastating.

Now... well, I'd still forgive him, but he'd have to write me a song or something to apologize.

xxxp they dumped their interest in all kinds of artists for pettier reasons!

I mean, it was the mid-90s and I remember overhearing some kids debating whether No Doubt were really part of the ska revival, or if getting pop radio play was an instant disqualifier, or if they'd drifted away from some weird genre purity test

kids that age are all about finding boundaries, edge cases to figure out where ideas and people fit in relation to each other and when someone they look to in their culture does something unexpected they have to go back to the drawing board and come up with a new picture

whiney who were your heroes when you were 14

xp

which is interesting because what sounds we like may differ from the artist's original intent

and in the politically driven and racially driven climate the u.s. is in, it creates this tension on who you should listen to and what it says about you as a person

I feel with the mention of Jay-Z we need to do a 'worst company: Tesla vs Tidal' poll.

xpost to flappy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEcuMt2crBk

and in the politically driven and racially driven climate the u.s. is in, it creates this tension on who you should listen to and what it says about you as a person

― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:40 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes nowhere else in the world or human history have people ever treated art as something social and related to their identity and place of being in the world, this is uniquely because america uniquely has this thing called "politics" you moron, you utter fucking fool.

lol

look if it makes you happy you can substitute u.s. with whatever your little heart desires

I like Tidal

in the politically driven and racially driven climate of <insert literally any contiguous political mass and chronological period>

hey you really can substitute anything

Duh bruh

in the politically driven and racially driven climate of <your mom>

Losing pts for creativity but gotta set the bar low on ilx

What about

C) real anti-imperialists who hate musk and are upset at grimes for making a joke of their movement.

She’s 30 now, the naive, immature cutey brand she had is getting closer to annoying, woman-child.

which are all legitimate reasons to hate Elon Musk and be upset that Grimes is dating him I suppose. but it's not her politics, it just seems like a total jump the shark moment aesthetically.

Somehow I don't think it's Grimes' ideals that need to be called into question here.

You guys are actually reducing an artist's entire aesthetic and belief system down to who she's fucking and acting like it makes you the progressive ones.

don't worry she's taking imperialism down from the inside

We need to save the backlash for when the actual album comes out.

Can't speak for anyone else but I dgaf about shtupping tesla guy. All ire emerges from siding with or making excuses for the Bosses rather than labor.

https://goo.gl/images/XnvzWP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xweiQukBM_k

If G puts out some new music, I’ll listen. Otherwise wgaf

"my boyfriend's not a cyberpunk villain and I'll prove it during the promotional tour for my next album" is, to be fair, incredibly 2018

— alex hern (@alexhern) May 22, 2018

Who'd-a thought they could be lovers?
She makes the bed and he contributes to the Rubio campaign
She likes it neat and he makes a mess
He takes it easy, baby, she get obsessed [with capitalism]
He's got the money and, err, she has less but is also certainly doing OK for herself
She don't like cigarettes and he's not so woke
Things in common? There just ain't a one!
But when they get together
They have nothin' but fun!

If G puts out some new music, I’ll listen. Otherwise wgaf

― calstars

She goes by C nowadays.

the CZA

just gonna go ahead and say it

grimes was a very typical vancouverite (looks, attitude, and everything) who still never fully realized til she moved to a big city (hello los angeles) her anti-establishment/radical socialist ideas have no place in the modern world -- it's vancouver's and mayor gregor robertson's "greenest city"/vision vancouver ploy

now she doesn't really want to handle the consequences of her ideas if she goes through with them from a practical conclusion/view

― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:25 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just gonna go ahead and say it

grimes was a very typical vancouverite (looks, attitude, and everything) who still never fully realized til she moved to a big city (hello los angeles) her anti-establishment/radical socialist ideas have no place in the modern world -- it's vancouver's and mayor gregor robertson's "greenest city"/vision vancouver ploy

now she doesn't really want to handle the consequences of her ideas if she goes through with them from a practical conclusion/view

― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:25 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

“”you mean claire?” - vancouver”” - @flowersflowers https://t.co/flo1DwHNZN

— Owen Ellis (@owen______ellis) May 7, 2018

Personally I just want to see the receipts.

srsly tho vancouver norms trying to claim grimes is even lamer than mtl hipsters who can’t keep her name out their mouth being overfamiliar and creepy-mean. ‘This person went to elementary school in my city so i have special knowledge of her’ lol stfu leave my Nazi princess alone

have we reached godwin's law

I think the idea of artists being shaped by their cities is kinda exaggerated, especially in the era of internet/globalisation.

I find Whiney's position mystifying here -- Grimes is actively caping for a union-buster, fuck that, she gets to absorb some heat for that -- but find his Primus clip just delightful so it's a wash

Nothing worse than hipsters going 'arcade fire is so Montreal' when 6/7th of the band is from outside Ontario/the US and the other one is from a rich suburb outside the island.

lol floppy

u get it

van horn street

you just described torontonians publishing stories of people somehow related to their city