2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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Haha wow.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

How come "sarah palin" produces no results, but [wasilla + palin] pulls up sites in which "Sarah Palin" is mentioned?

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jaymc, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link

it is because google sucked then

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Top Republicans for Obama Release New Book, "Turning Red States Blue"

Longtime Republican Businessmen and Fundraisers Publish Book to Swing
Conservatives to Vote for Obama

Authors Aim Book at Rural White Voters

NEW YORK, Sept. 17 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Two top Republican businessmen
and party fundraisers are throwing their brainpower, their intimate
understanding of Republican core values and their money behind getting Senator
Barack Obama elected as U.S. President. Authors Wilbur O. Colom and James W.
Parkinson have teamed up to write a new 104-page book that makes a fiscal and
social argument on why conservatives should vote for Obama. Their book,
Turning Red States Blue: Obama's Mission to Win the Republican Vote (Genesis
Press), is being released this week and can be found online at
ObamaRepublicans08.com. The book costs $19.95.

To make sure the message of their book reaches their audience, the authors are
launching a marketing campaign aimed at Republican districts in rural areas in
Mississippi, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana and Alabama, where white voters
predominate. To kick off this effort, the entire book is being published in
25 hometown weekly papers in northeastern Mississippi, including Choctaw
Chronicle and Belmont & Tishomingo Journal, as a "Parade-style" insert.

This showed up in our local weekly paper today.

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

http://web.archive.org/web/20010411195533/www.alaskaseafood.org/table/recipes/firstannual8.htm

SWEET AND SAUCY GRILLED SALMON

Recipe by Alaska Fisherman Sarah Palin
Wasilla, Alaska

* 1 can (12 oz.) tomato sauce
* 1/4 cup packed brown sugar
* 1/4 cup molases
* 3 tbsp. ketchup
* 2 tbsp. apple cider vinegar
* 2 tbsp. dried minced onion
* 1 tbsp. Worcestershure sauce
* 1 tbsp. mustard
* 1 tbsp. dried bell pepper dices
* 1/4 tsp. each cinnamon and nutmeg
* 4 to 6 Alaska salmon fillets or steaks (4 to 6 oz. each)

Blend all ingredients, except seafood, in bowl; let set 10 to 15 minutes. Dip seafood into sauce, then place on hot oiled grill, not directly over heat source (coals or gas). Cover and vent. Cook about 6 to 12 minutes per inch of thickness, brushing with extra sauce, if desired. Do not overcook or burn edges.

Makes 4 to 6 servings.

Also great with Alaska halibut or cod!

i'm a shop btw (jeff), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

only someone purely evil would do that to Alaskan salmon

gabbneb, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Looks good to me.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link

sweet AND saucy

i'm a shop btw (jeff), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link

At least 7 people injured at an Obama rally in Kansas City where Michelle Obama is speaking

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Is that from 2001?

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link

those seven people wanted to show how proud they were to be American.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I missed the first half of the CBS news...did anybody see if she showed the Palin/Supreme Court gaffe?

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/the_palin_scotus_answer_drops.php

COURIC: What other Supreme Court decisions do you disagree with?

PALIN: Well, let's see. There's --of course --in the great history of America rulings there have been rulings, that's never going to be absolute consensus by every American. And there are--those issues, again, like Roe v Wade where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So you know--going through the history of America, there would be others but--

COURIC: Can you think of any?

PALIN: Well, I could think of--of any again, that could be best dealt with on a more local level. Maybe I would take issue with. But you know, as mayor, and then as governor and even as a Vice President, if I'm so privileged to serve, wouldn't be in a position of changing those things but in supporting the law of the land as it reads today.

i'm a shop btw (jeff), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link

BOOM

Z S, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I think there's an incredible tension within her in these answers. Her instinct is to just go for it! "Well, let's see. There's" and "Well, I could think of". Then, a brief realization that she's in way over her head. "--" and "--". Then, the pressure/relief of conforming to talking points.

Z S, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't see how that's any less/more embarassing than the rest of the interview. let's move on to her next set of gaffes already plz

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

now here's a real A-level performance from Kerry

gabbneb, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link

btw, 2 new national polls have Obama up 8-9 points

gabbneb, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't see how that's any less/more embarassing than the rest of the interview. let's move on to her next set of gaffes already plz

her not being able to name ANY Supreme Court case is kind of really embarrasing considering your above-average 11-12th grader could name at least a few

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

seriouscat.jpg

history of rulings haz rulings.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm sorry but I can't look at Kerry without immediately thinking of:
http://www.cinematical.com/media/2006/05/reanimator1.jpg

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

our above-average 11-12th grader could name at least a few

Really. My students couldn't even name Bush 41 as Clinton's predecessor.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah - we went over this on the debate thread. don't make me cite my dad's anecdotal evidence as a US history teacher.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i said above average guys. I'm thinking along the lines here of Marbury v. Madison, you know, basic civics stuff. i could have named at least a couple back then, and if either one of you guys had paid attention i'm sure you could have too.

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

To be fair, the question was "Which cases do you disagree with?" not just "Can you identify any other Supreme Court cases?" It's not like she's going to say "Brown v. Board of Education was bullshit."

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link

She just generally disagrees with the entire concept of the Supreme Court.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I knew Marbury v Madison because I paid attention! I attended a private Catholic high school, and there was no sense then, or later in college, that the Supreme Court was important. I've made it my personal mission to read about the history of SCOTUS this year but I'm far from an expert.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link

she was thinkin it tho xp

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link

all of them u know what ever case are in front of me

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

SCOTUS is like the Holy Spirit of American education: you're told it exists, and it's important, but no details.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Plessy v. Ferguson is a personal favorite

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

To be fair, the question was "Which cases do you disagree with?"

exactly - what, did you think she was gonna cite Bush v. Gore? lolz

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I doubt McCain could cite another ruling he disagreed with

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

she disagrees with Lochner v New York.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm a shop btw (jeff), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I knew Marbury v Madison because I paid attention.

Yeah--I guess I had a really good high school government teacher. I dunno.I'm not calling myself above average but I'm starting to realize my h.s. government teach was pretty awesome. but anyway, my point is, she should be able to discuss this sort of stuff.

To be fair, the question was "Which cases do you disagree with?" not just "Can you identify any other Supreme Court cases?" It's not like she's going to say "Brown v. Board of Education was bullshit."

Okay, yeah, sure. But her answer is totally laughable, which is fine with me b/c at this point, I am watching her for the LOLs

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

she's doesn't have to answer the question either--the question is basically Couric asking her to talk about SCOTUS, which she should be able to do.

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link

she could've just said - I'm no legal scholar, I can't think of any offhand. and that would've been fine. Instead her answer is the usual mishmash of nonsense.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

like i bet she could not name all 9

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

You guys are missing the point. Palin is here to appeal to the right-wing base, which LOVES to hear talk about "activist judges legislating from the bench." I haven't been paying close enough attention to know if Palin is on record as having made similar statements but I assume this is the universe in which this question operates. So not being able to name cases you disagree with isn't about being ignorant of current events, it's about not being able to identify the supposedly villainous acts you're campaigning to bring a stop to.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

To be fair, the question was "Which cases do you disagree with?" not just "Can you identify any other Supreme Court cases?" It's not like she's going to say "Brown v. Board of Education was bullshit."

Disagreeing with Dred Scott v. Sanford shd be pretty safe these days.

rogermexico., Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

hmm I'm not sure I could name all 9... let's see: Scalia, Kennedy, Bader-Ginsberg, Thomas, Souter, Roberts... uhhh okay I'm drawin a blank on the other 3

x-posts

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Stevens

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Breyer

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Like, the base may or may not know the names of the cases, but they are ready to be excited by an answer like "Well obviously Lawrence v. Texas, where the court apparently decided that sexual preferences are fundamental rights" and stuff like that.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Alito

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Scalia Jr

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Like, the base may or may not know the names of the cases, but they are ready to be excited by an answer like "Well obviously Lawrence v. Texas, where the court apparently decided that sexual preferences are fundamental rights" and stuff like that.

exxxxxxxxxxxxactly

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link


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