ROLLING HIPSTER STUDIES 09

now you just end up with chain department stores selling decent shirts that are inspired by trends of a few years back, as always

the devil wears prada movie had a dorky fashion dialogue scene about this, that color you’re wearing hit the shelves because a bunch of people fought it out and it won and it was couteur and then copied and then downmarket

and then eventually applebees made it a menu item and they installed brick pavers on the street in front, and then you have culture

yeah I feel like this guy is just a one-percenter but in that wing of the one-percent where it's really important to believe that spending your money at "foodie" places = "cool," that all the cool hip people want to live in your city and eat at those places or whatever. in fact cool people everywhere look down on these people, while washing dishes in the back.

oh he is so far from one percent. not sure how divided it is in DC but he codes as upper middle class or maybe upper class in-city but single home guy. maybe could afford a lake house shack

the thing is that all of these things code as people with just enough money who think they are talking about social striving but are really just throwing half-assed signifiers out everywhere. people with less money look to those recommendations. there is always an up-and-coming part of any metro area where people visit and say “oh yeah I went to blah restaurant and it was nice and we got drinks at other place” but it’s generally middlebrow and enjoyable but nothing out of the ordinary. and it’s always the constantly rebranding or closing businesses because novelty is the main factor

I think we’re drifting out of it but the tapas/small plate places were the vanguard for years. Still remember a douchebag older restauranteur greeting me at his small plates establishment and talking about which waitresses were attractive. It’s the same thing that draws people to talk about cool clubs, where cool means busy and the “right” people milling around

sorry, i’ve feelings

I grew up in DC and it seemed a lot cooler to me when I was in high school than it does when I go back. Dischord bands at Ft Reno and Go-Go music and freestyle cyphers on U Street was what seemed cool about it to me. There's nothing cool about getting a fucking charcuterie board.

one-percenters equals around $400K a year so yeah i may have overplaced him. ten-percenter for sure. but i still think he's mistaking himself and his peers for "cool" and it is always a sad look when ppl try to doll up their condo-construction gentrification of some struggling city as being "cool" because there are now expensive restaurants there.

imo "cool" in the standard sense is what those things replace, a neighborhood that's been slowly somewhat gentrifying but hasn't tipped from "people doing interesting things in areas with low rent/available space" to "all the people who used to live here have been run out and someone knocked over some poor person's housing and built condos"

what's actually cool is neighborhoods that build back up without displacing people, that have businesses owned and run by locals that serve the community. but those are few and far between because rehabilitation isn't the market force that tear down and rebuild is

man alive very much otm, i lived in DC from 2002-2008 that was very much my experience too. seemed like DC cool was actually dying once the target moved into columbia heights and the glass condos started being built. same as anywhere i guess

The clueless GW law professor who wrote this also seems to think moving federal government work to a romanticized heartland is gonna somehow make housing more affordable everywhere, end gentrification, and reduce wage inequality. Superficial and not cool. I'm following him on twitter now (for some reason). He keeps retweeting knuckleheads who liked the article

yea this was one of the dumbest things i've read in a long time

i wonder when the popular cultural normy idea of a hipster is going to be updated from early 00s brooklynite with a beard and waxed mustache to actual modern day hipster norm core/90s type thing that actually exists rn.

I mean this guy hasn't even moved beyond "trucker hat" yet so he's a little behind

trucker hat is literally circa the year 2000 iirc?

The studio across from my wife's had a sticker on the door that said "Foam Free in '03" with a line through a trucker hat, so they were definitely on their way out by 2003.

kind of astounding that some of today's hipsters were literally not born for peak trucker hat

Let’s go back to the important and unprecedented discussion of what “cool” really means, before we decide whether a type of hat was cool at one time

cool is a type of hat, but which type is constantly in question

can't believe people would be indulging in unimportant and precedented discussion of what "cool" really means in the important and unprecedented thread "ROLLING HIPSTER STUDIES 09"

tom really wants us to talk about dc i guess??

moving federal government work to a romanticized heartland

i totally support this policy fwiw

I’m not entirely sure what the policy means

have you actually been to the heartland area, romanticized or not

Moving fed gov't to "the heartland" sounds like code for conservative capture of the bureaucracy.

also for ripping surviving entry-level middle-class positions from minorities.

just move some of the govt there, like few agencies, not the whole Washington DC. idea is to have new cities. a related regional industrial policy i also favour is to have new universities in economically disadvantaged areas, which would sprout cities around them

has anyone pinpointed the exact moment in the last decade when ‘hipster’ switched from meaning foppish cokehead art student to rotund bearded prosumer dad in a flannel shirt? pic.twitter.com/uRSIFgIk4y

— Sam (@fuiud) December 15, 2019

aren't they the same person a decade later

Sometimes yes,also just that middle-age normies are holding onto a style that was popular when they were young

I miss 2009 hipster culture

still true

nothing helps me maintain my sense of childlike wonder more than played out art trends.

― sarahel, Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:06 PM (eight years ago)

duh people used to stop dressing like hipsters when they got real jobs. now there are no real jobs.

I miss 2009 hipster culture

― treeship., Monday, December 16, 2019 9:48 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

i really don't, it was bad

2009 hipster culture I remember as it running towards peak trust fund kid saturation of williamsburg. What was the summer of trucker hats and cowboy boots? It might've been a year or 2 before that.

i miss when a few spoilt city brats in silly clothes setting up cereal restaurants was an urgent and key concern

trucker hats were maybe 2002-03 nyc before williamsburg more LES iirc

wtf trucker hats and gas station uniforms were hipster gear in Tucson in the early 90s. Why did it take so long to happen in NYC?

are you sure those were hipsters in Tucson or was that just normal garb?

peak trucker hat was 2006 here in the UK I think? Came a little late because people don't actually drive trucks in hats here. Doherty straw hat thing was roughly the same time IIRC

xpost nah it was a thing for guys in bands. Thrift store culture.

it's hot there, a mesh hat seems utilitarian.

didn't think 'hipsters' qua hipsters really were a thing until the late-90s, and even then it was confined to major city districts

because more mid/southwesterners started to move to nyc? xpost. Also wasn't it a thing about Punk'd when the trucker hat peaked?

the Grandaddy Era

i just remember like Max Fish was a sea of stupid trucker hats around 2002. I don't look too good in hats or else i probably would have had one too tbh

i cant remember if i dabbled in trucking, but i def had a dumb gas station shirt for a few years late90s/early00s

(dumb bc i looked dumb in it)

Too many current interpretations of the word hipster. I still think of it as the urban outfitter type of person. Wearing a gas station shirt in the 90s was just 'alternative'.

I think social media killed the hipsters tbh