U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Nino Edition

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I'm 100% pro court-packing

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link

what's delegitimating about a court-packing fight? It was perfectly legal for FDR to pursue but he got the politics and timing badly bolloxed.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link

I guess I would argue that "legitimacy" is a political concept, not a legal one.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link

Anyway, it was the article's claim as I read it - that a reason to be worried about this ostensibly inevitable future court-packing incident would be that it would damage what's left of the court's vague above-the-fray aura etc.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link

fuck their above-the-fray aura

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:47 (six years ago) link

you'll love their vague above-the-fray aura when 6 conservatives decide that the freedom of contract is a constitutionally guaranteed right and prevent our legislature from doing anything pro-worker

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:48 (six years ago) link

The Supreme Court may soon get to hear (or just ignore) 9th Circuit decisions signed by Federalist Society right-wingers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/05/10/a-trump-judicial-nominee-apologizes-for-controversial-articles-mocking-multiculturalism/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9b7548825c3e

Ryan W. Bounds, a conservative federal prosecutor in Oregon, faced intense grilling from Democrats during his appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Bounds’s controversial commentaries, written in the Stanford Review in the 1990s, criticized race-focused groups and questioned the value of cultural sensitivity training.

Bounds told senators his rhetoric had been “overheated” back then and offered apologies for the tone of some of his writings.

“I share the concerns of many that the rhetoric I used in debating campus politics back in the early ’90s on Stanford’s campus was often overheated, overbroad,” he said, adding that his views were “not as respectful” as they should have been “about how to best pursue diversity and ensure a multicultural respect on campus.”

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) led Senate Republicans in pushing forward with the hearing, despite staunch opposition from both of Oregon’s senators, Ron Wyden and Jeffrey E. Merkley. In a rare move, the hearing proceeded despite both Oregon senators’ refusing to turn in “blue slips”: the pieces of paper used to signal approval of a nominee. When the slips aren’t submitted, it has often been treated as veto power of a nominee.

But not this time.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 May 2018 15:45 (six years ago) link

Republicans are filling appellate judge vacancies across the country that they blocked via blue slip rules and such previously (and Dems playing "by the rules" did themselves). Now we may get more conservative appellate court decisions which will influence what the Supreme Court hears. We're doomed

Brennan will take a seat on the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago that has stood open since 2010 amid a bitter political standoff.

He was confirmed 49-46 with only Republican votes, over the objections of Democrat Tammy Baldwin, Wisconsin’s junior senator.

That has typically been enough to sink a nomination in recent years, because senators from both parties have enjoyed an effective veto over the selection of federal judges from their home states, a tradition known as the “blue slip.”

Baldwin’s GOP colleague from Wisconsin, Ron Johnson, used his blue slip power to block one of Democratic President Barack Obama's nominees for the same 7th Circuit seat that his party filled Thursday.
...When Democrats controlled the Senate, Judiciary chair Patrick Leahy of Vermont treated the blue slip as an absolute veto power by home-state senators, even when it made it harder to approve Obama’s nominees because of objections from Republicans in the minority. Leahy would not schedule a confirmation hearing if any senator from the nominee’s home state objected.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/05/10/senate-confirms-michael-brennan-u-s-court-appeals/598340002/

curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link

New Jersey won a landmark ruling from the Supreme Court Monday that could lead many states to legalize betting on college and professional sports.

The justices ruled 7-2 that a 25-year-old federal law that has effectively prohibited sports betting outside Nevada cannot block states such as New Jersey that want to set up sports books. The ruling could set the stage for other states to expand legalized gambling as a source of government revenue.

Justice Samuel Alito, a New Jersey native, wrote the court's opinion in the case. Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor dissented.

It was a victory for the state's recently departed governor, Chris Christie, who had challenged the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act, passed by Congress in 1992 to preserve the integrity of the nation's most popular sports.

It was a defeat for the National Collegiate Athletic Association and the four major professional sports leagues -- baseball, football, basketball and hockey -- that had successfully blocked New Jersey in lower courts.

The court's action could jump-start action in Congress to pass legislation calling for federal regulation of sports betting -- something the sports leagues would prefer over separate rules from state to state.

Congress passed the 1992 law to preserve what lawmakers at the time felt was the integrity of the games. But New Jersey and its allies argued that it ran afoul of the 10th Amendment, which reserves for the states all powers not delegated to the federal government.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link

Seeing anti-commandeering principles reaffirmed is somewhat reassuring with the current administration being what it is.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 14 May 2018 14:41 (six years ago) link

This is terrible news for workers in America. The arbitration revolution led by big corporations is taking public justice and making it private, and making it harder for employees to get a fair hearing when they are screwed. https://t.co/RAPh9LMJb8

— Zephyr Teachout (@ZephyrTeachout) May 21, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

What's especially ridiculous about these things is that employment nearly everywhere is "at will" rather than contractual. So the employer can force you to sign an entirely one-sided contract that solely prevents you from suing them without giving you anything in return.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

fucking

valorous wokelord (silby), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/21/605012795/supreme-court-decision-delivers-blow-to-workers-rights

In a case involving the rights of tens of millions of private-sector employees, the U.S. Supreme Court, by a 5-4 vote margin, delivered a major blow to workers, ruling for the first time that workers may not band together to challenge violations of federal labor laws.

Writing for the majority, Justice Neil Gorsuch said that the 1925 Federal Arbitration Act trumps the National Labor Relations Act and that employees who sign employment agreements to arbitrate claims must do so on an individual basis — and may not band together to enforce claims of wage and hour violations....

curmudgeon, Monday, 21 May 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

an exceedingly smarmy and disingenuous opener from Gorsuch, just as one might have expected:

"Should employees and employers be allowed to agree
that any disputes between them will be resolved through
one-on-one arbitration? Or should employees always be
permitted to bring their claims in class or collective ac"

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

Sorry:

Should employees and employers be allowed to agree
that any disputes between them will be resolved through
one-on-one arbitration? Or should employees always be
permitted to bring their claims in class or collective actions,
no matter what they agreed with their employers?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

I mean the only solution to this really is to take back congress and amend the statute to clearly allow employee class actions and/or bar arbitration agreements in at-will employment.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link

Gutting the NLRA, aka the New Deal, is the goal of the conservatives.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

how dare you take away the freedom of a poultry worker to agree to one-to-one arbitration with their employer

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

take back congress and the presidency and then queue up some assassinations

valorous wokelord (silby), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

surely the right of employees to agree to completely lopsided negotiations as a condition of employment should form the cornerstone of labor relations moving forward

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link

this gorsuch guy is SO SMART what BRAINS on this guy

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link

Or should employees always be permitted to bring their claims in class or collective actions, no matter what they agreed with their employers?

that "always," what a lovely touch, like one of Virginia Woolf's semicolons.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

It's fairly pukeworthy how often I hear a fellow lawyer defend or try to mitigate the Gorsuch appointment, an obvious disaster for workers and ordinary people but he's "smart" and "fair-minded" (and law firms will probably never make their lawyers sign arbitration agreements so you ain't got shit to worry about).

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

class sympathy really trumps politics is what it boils down to

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 21 May 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

Ginsburg's dissent is five pages longer than the majority's opinion. And Gorsuch spends time in his opinion to respond point by point to the minority's arguments.

I'm sure his responses are smarmy

curmudgeon, Monday, 21 May 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link

I haven't read the opinion yet. It hardly matters. When you see a 5-4 opinion breaking exactly along party lines, each side claiming they have the correct statutory interpretation, you know what's really going on. I mean Gorsuch's opening line basically admits that all the statutory interpretation is just a smokescreen. He just thinks employers should be able to make employees "agree" to whatever, regardless of what any statute says.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 21 May 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link

I mean I don't give a fuck about the blazing intellectual combat taking place, you either recognize that employers control the means of production and thus have massively unequal leverage or you accept the false construct of the employer and employee as contracting equals.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 21 May 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

^ otm

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 21 May 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

Or should employees always be permitted to bring their claims in class or collective actions, no matter what they agreed with their employers?

that "always," what a lovely touch, like one of Virginia Woolf's semicolons.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, May 21, 2018 11:58 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You’re giving him too much credit. It’s sounds like Carrie Bradshaw

So Neal K. Katyal, who was an acting solicitor general in the Obama administration, is a law professor at Georgetown and a partner at Hogan Lovells, wrote the cert petition on behalf of the employer asking the Supreme Court to weaken labor law in this case, and the NY Times let him write an op-ed back in 2017 entitled "Why Liberals Should back Neil Gorsuch.".

curmudgeon, Monday, 21 May 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

21st-century libs also hate workers, apparently

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:02 (five years ago) link

Does Neal K. Katyal claim to be a liberal? Seems like a highly doubtful claim to me.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:07 (five years ago) link

dude litigated the travel ban = liberal hero

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:10 (five years ago) link

Judging an attorney's principles by examining the cases they've argued seems like a highly doubtful methodology to me.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:14 (five years ago) link

His Twitter labels him an "extremist centrist," which is nice ass-covering.

wiki:

Katyal was critical of the Guantanamo Bay detention camp. While teaching at Georgetown University Law Center for two decades, Katyal was lead counsel for the Guantanamo Bay detainees in the Supreme Court case Hamdan v. Rumsfeld (2006), which held that Guantanamo military commissions set up by the George W. Bush administration to try detainees "violate both the UCMJ and the four Geneva Conventions."

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:16 (five years ago) link

I know this is an uncomfortable conversation, but progressives must understand+confront role that Big Law—including heroes who’ve done great work serving in Dem admins—has played in undermining legal rights of vulnerable workers and consumers, esp through attack on class actions https://t.co/i9fLwvUcOm

— Brian Highsmith (@bd_highsmith) May 21, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link

Um, the job of biglaw is to serve capital, what the fuck does anyone think it is?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 03:41 (five years ago) link

So Neal K. Katyal, who was an acting solicitor general in the Obama administration, is a law professor at Georgetown and a partner at Hogan Lovells, wrote the cert petition on behalf of the employer asking the Supreme Court to weaken labor law in this case, and the NY Times let him write an op-ed back in 2017 entitled "Why Liberals Should back Neil Gorsuch.".

― curmudgeon, Monday, May 21, 2018 12:12 PM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is literally the exact type of motherfucker I was talking about in my earlier post in re "pukeworthy" lawyer takes

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 03:42 (five years ago) link

the Supreme Court ruled for the Colorado baker. "The ruling is a win for baker Jack Phillips but leaves unsettled the broader constitutional questions the case presented."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/04/politics/masterpiece-colorado-gay-marriage-cake-supreme-court/

Dan S, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link

Yeah, seeing similar elsewhere:

So: on a quick read, SCOTUS punted the core difficult issue of Masterpiece Cakeshop by saying "however it comes out, in this case there was unlawful bias in the process." Um.

— KneelBeforeHat (@Popehat) June 4, 2018

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:50 (five years ago) link

Kagan and Breyer voted with the 5 conservative justices

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 June 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

The conservative justices probably couldn't muster the necessary 5 votes to establish a whole new legal framework to give everyone a right to discriminate whenever they can claim that their religion requires such discrimination. By punting the issue and dodging the entire question, they could get 7 votes using the narrowest possible legal basis, save face, and let the cakeshop owners off the hook, thereby mollifying the evangelicals and letting them claim victory, despite establishing zero precedent for the future. A better outcome than it might have been.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 4 June 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

I'm not knocked out by the decision even if I recognize this is the usual John Roberts way of Keeping the Court Legit despite having lost control of any comity (the nine justices are yelling at each other; look at all the opinions!).

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 June 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link

If the plea of "my religion requires me to treat certain people like lepers" ever gets official sanction, I may revive a new variant of the Thug sect, which required its acolytes to kill people, usually travelers. In my new Thug religion killing conservative Supreme Court justices would provide extra merit in heaven.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 4 June 2018 23:10 (five years ago) link

Please also establish schools and ask for voucher money for your Thug faith. The $ would of course just cover non-Thug teaching

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link

this hadn't occurred to me, but is kind of compelling

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/06/04/donald-trump-travel-ban-supreme-court-218590

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

At issue in Hawaii v. Trump is whether the entry ban order results from anti-Muslim animus—that is, a kind of religious prejudice. Much of the fight is about whether courts should ignore President Trump’s Islamophobic statements when reasoning about the purpose of the entry ban. In Monday’s decision, Justice Kennedy made plain that it is appropriate to consider the prejudice in things government officials say when analyzing claims that those officials’ actions are unconstitutionally discriminatory: The key to the Masterpiece Cakeshop decision, for Kennedy, was a series of statements by two members of the Colorado Civil Rights Commission that displayed, or might have suggested, a prejudicial attitude toward the baker’s religious beliefs.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link


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