last week a friend i'd gone to college in japan with emailed me a link to a post on clickopera - the 'i hate japan' april fools one from yearssss back (i do not think they noticed, that it was an april fool)
and so i wrote 'oh momuspaws' and hit send
and then thought: wait.
― la belle dame sans serif (c sharp major), Sunday, 24 May 2009 09:14 (fourteen years ago) link
This as the most otm thing ever posted about Momus...That said, I like reading his blog ...I just wish I liked his music more
If Momus wasn't sexually attracted to Japanese girls two decades younger than him, I doubt if he'd have bothered to work up his latter-day orientalist theorising. If it had been, say, black Americans he was into, no doubt we'd have been bombarded with posts about white American protestant work ethic vs the exotic Other of African American culture bla bla bla.― Iggy Fop, Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:17 PM (4 years ago)
― Bob Six, Sunday, 24 May 2009 10:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah but that's every white dude with an asian girl fetish that didn't study IT.
― "too worldly to compete on /b/" (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 24 May 2009 10:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Wait, you mean Momus wrote about things that mattered to him? omg etc
xpost
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 24 May 2009 10:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Have said it before and will say it again: everyone gets the Momus they deserve.
― don't fear the freeper (suzy), Sunday, 24 May 2009 10:36 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm almost sort of impressed dude has managed to blag living like a really "wacky" self-regarding art-foundation course fresher for the last 30-odd years without starving/being beaten to death.
― max arrrrrgh, Sunday, 24 May 2009 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Unfortunately, Wendy Carlos couldn't quite manage to cut his balls off. Which was a surprising turn of events.
― "too worldly to compete on /b/" (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 24 May 2009 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link
The three O records he made in Berlin ("Oskar Tennis Champion", "Otto Spooky", "Ocky Milk") are pretty damn weird and beautiful because of that. He has a real talent for taking found sound/concrete audio collages and arranging them under a nice classically pleasing melody. First time I heard "The Artist Overwhelmed" I was awestruck.
If his old records are like "A Clockwork Orange" his new ones are like the end of "2001".
― Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 24 May 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
I'll stan for this record anytime. http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/03fb57ee6e40d8df0531d59e88d7dfe7/8201.jpg
― leavethecapital, Sunday, 24 May 2009 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
He's one of those people who says outrageous things in order to force one to confront one's own prejudices and one's own thought patterns and beliefs.
Sadly, many of those who are good at this trick get stuck in a holding pattern, because they stop at the point of discovering the errors of other people's ways and do not continue on to construct a coherent set of ideas and values that are any better than those they spend their lives challenging. As a result, they are totally lacking in humility, when humility is precisely what they need most.
― Aimless, Sunday, 24 May 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
theorizing a sexual fetish might matter to you, but it's also stupid. luv the etc btw
― macaulay culkin's bukkake shocker (bug), Sunday, 24 May 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
It just seems like a strange criticism. Should he be writing about things he has no experience with? I disagree with a lot of things Momus says but I like that he says them. Even when he's wrong wrong wrong it's like Oliver Wendell Holmes said about friends with strong opinions, they're like rough tree bark you can scratch yourself against.
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 24 May 2009 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link
― Aimless, Sunday, May 24, 2009 4:34 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark
But sometimes the point is precisely to make people think about, to challenge the validity of "A" rather than to make a case for an alternative "B", which will inevitably have it's own flaws and contradictions.
― touch my bum / this is life (daavid), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 08:13 (fourteen years ago) link
I agree with Masonic Boom, Momus may be nothing more than a troll, but at least he's an intelligent and charming one.
― touch my bum / this is life (daavid), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 08:18 (fourteen years ago) link
More lurker than troll these days. This very thread gets a mention on his blog.
― Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 08:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Posting merely to report that I misread this thread title as "Regarding Moms"
― giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 10:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Even when he's wrong wrong wrong it's like Oliver Wendell Holmes said about friends with strong opinions, they're like rough tree bark you can scratch yourself against.
What is this quote? I like the sentiment, but can't track it down.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 11:42 (fourteen years ago) link
It's in his short book, "The Poet at the Breakfast Table"
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 11:47 (fourteen years ago) link
He does a good deal of the talking at our table, and, to tell the truth, I rather like to hear him. He stirs me up, and finds me occupation in various ways, and especially, because he has good solid prejudices, that one can rub against, and so get up and let off a superficial intellectual irritation, just as the cattle rub their backs against a rail (you remember Sydney Smith's contrivance in his pasture) or their sides against an apple-tree (I don't know why they take to these so particularly, but you will often find the trunk of an apple-tree as brown and smooth as an old saddle at the height of a cow's ribs).
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 11:49 (fourteen years ago) link
That's actually as good a description of a "benevolent troll" as I've ever read
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 11:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Awesome. thanks.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 11:56 (fourteen years ago) link
What are you people doing trying to be a Captain Save-A-Mo(mus)?
― "too worldly to compete on /b/" (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link
What are you doing giving a shit?
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link
oh come on this guy is a cunt you numbfucks
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
didn't want to say
― U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
oh man my prejudices are being so shaken by how much of a sleazy shitbag this guy is!!!
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Ibid.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
is it wrong to wish that with all his intelligence and sensitivity momus would try to think or at least communicate in less programmatic and essentializing and oversimplifying and ungenerous ways? his MO always seemed to be to place things in categories and then argue up a storm trying not to refine those categories but to rationalize them in ever more tortured ways. frustrating.
maybe it's just because i'm so far away from college radio now (going on a decade) but does his music just seem amazingly irrelevant, even more than before? i mean i sort of get pangs of sympathy when i read about him playing to disappointingly small audiences. i hope he has a little nest egg for the next few decades.
― amateurist, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
he's pretty easy to avoid, folks!
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
He was great. Miss that dude.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
he didn't use to be! although i enjoyed sparring with him. sometimes.
― amateurist, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
unless you're an asian girl!!
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe momus will get shot in a liquor store robbery and re-emerge as a simple, caring ilxor who starts posting on all the surmounter and bimble threads
― blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
I really don't get the Momus hate around here. A "cunt"? Really? Based on what?
― touch my bum / this is life (daavid), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe based on his wearing an eyepatch? But man if losing an eye doesn't entitle you to wear an eyepatch, then this is truly some harsh crowd!
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link
lol omar i was gonna request a photoshop of that poster because everytime i see this thread i am reminded of that awful movie
― velko, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
read thread title as "Rereading Momus", revision style
― bear, bear, bear, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
i haven't posted here long enough to have a lasting impression of Momus as a poster, let alone a positive impression. If anything, he came across as a blowhard -- but there are plenty of ilxors who share that distinction.
― roman knockwell (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah but they don't do it for a living
― iatee, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit at the number of threads with "momus" in the title
― velko, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link
always thought this guy was a contrarian jerk
― Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I recall him remarking on the lack of cheese shops in Brooklyn?
― roman knockwell (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Momus and the Jews
^^lots of quality nonsense here
― Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
So sue him for not going to Park Slope ever? xpost
I think it's pretty generous to serve as a strawman for five years to a bunch of underachievers dissembling their own sexism and racism by going lol dude likes Japanese girls. I'm sure working on a handful of columns, two books, various art projects, LPs and a blog is much more satisfying than having to wade through douchey, reductive challenges just to have a decent exchange of opinions with the couple of dozen people he actually respects here.
― don't fear the freeper (suzy), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Can I sidetrack the thread to ask who was the sadistic asshat who came up with the idea of the hairshirt?― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:50 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinksame guy who invented the sadistic asshat― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:57 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:50 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
same guy who invented the sadistic asshat
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:57 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
respect
― Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
MomoM vs. suMus : fite!
http://i44.tinypic.com/167ms7c.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/ll6dz.jpg
― StanM, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
(um sorry, carry on)
― StanM, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
zomg how can I get hired to be a blowhard for a living?
otoh not sure I'd meet the job reqs.
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
I liked Momus and always wished I cld live his life, which looks pretty fun!
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, the "you're just jealous" retort. didn't think people actually did that anymore.
xpost: zomg how can I get hired to be a blowhard for a living?
blow. hard!
― brian krakow has a posse (bug), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link