Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

“Devil In A New Dress”, really. I’d always thought that one had a pretty unimpeachable reputation among Kanye fans.

IDK, it might. I had completely forgotten about it.

This one gets all the accolades as his best album but graduation and late registration have the best songs.

oh yeah this album

the ranking kanye albums meme has made me instinctively tired just thinking about comparing them

also alfred otm

10 years ago Kanye interrupted Taylor Swift at the 2009 VMA awards. Since then we’ve known that as much of a foolish and rude way to express it, he was right, that Beyonce video is an all time best. The American tabloid vultures are the real monsters regarding this event, it’s bullshit how overblown they fueled the outrage against Kanye. However, it led to Kanye creating what is considered his magnum opus and one of the best albums this decade.

lol

Cool anecdotes of Rick Ross working with Kanye on this record :

https://www.thefader.com/2019/09/11/rick-ross-on-recording-devil-in-a-new-dress-the-best-verse-of-his-career/amp

There’s also this “making of” video of this album on youtube which is pretty cool and and I recommend giving it a watch:

https://youtu.be/6t0nipO6Rcw

I mean considered because I don’t think it’s one of the best albums this decade, I don’t even think it’s his best album, but it’s not a wild guess that it will come on top as a consensus top 3 album of the decade when the EOD lists starts pouring in.

i'm just glad that it seems like Kendrick will probably beat it out for #1 when it would have been the favourite for most of the decade

it won't even make the top 30

are we talking ILM EOD top 30? Cuz yeah I don't think it will make the cut either.

it's certainly not going to here and never would have, but i mean everywhere else

oh yeah this album

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, April 22, 2018

I mean it did just come in at third or something in that list from the guardian for the best records of the 21st century. It's very canonized, if not on ILX

gonna go out on a limb here and guess that yeezus will do somewhat well in any decade poll that ILX holds though.

Sometimes I think about listening to this but it feels exhausting

It's not even a top 3 Kanye album

it's a really frustrating listens because there are moments of brilliance but half the tracks drag on way longer than there's any reason for them to because no one was around to tell kanye "no". like off the top of my head, cut a verses from "gorgeous", "so appalled" and "hell of a life", edit down "runaway" significantly, and cut the chris rock sketch on "blame game" and then maybe there's a pretty good album?

there's also it having the worst mastering job of any album ever

Yes! For the ridiculous amount of people that worked on this record the mastering is pretty shoddy. It also most definitely mistakes ambition and progressive art with 5+ minute songs and crammed features. I don't care how many people praise it as a genius song, Runaway is just an ok song in heavy need of an edit, those last two minutes are honestly so fucking stupid, the ideas and hook in there are worth 4 minutes at most. The only track that deserves its length and excessive features is Monster.

The more I think about it the more this record feels like it only felt important in context and that context makes the whole thing feel way more important than what it really is, it's a self-mythifying record where the process of getting there seems more interesting than what we actually got. I like reading about this album more than the album itself. Good thing Kendrick took its crown since he actually has the ambitious albums to earn the GOAT accolades that GKMC and TPAB get.

That self-myth does seem to fool a great deal of people though. Take a walk to the garbage dump that are the music or hiphopheads subreddits and they're particularly defensive with this album, downvotes are had to anyone who dares say a negative thing about it.

It would have been a pretty shit decade if this was truly the best hip hop album in it.

the "runaway" outro is cool at first but then quickly overstays its welcome and it's just not that great of a song

i agree that "monster" is the only track that really justifies its length, and even then jay-z's verse isn't that good but it's at least endearingly goofy so it's a keeper

So appalled
Spaulding
Ball

Head of the class and she just want a swallowship

RIP kl0pper

I like this album tho

when you guys gang up on me i'm always right though

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:05 AM bookmarkflaglink

amateur hour. someone hit the fucking gong already on this clown.