thanks Ned, I think I forgot the Necromancer connection there.
the best part of BOTFA was the opening sequence w/Smaug's attack, though the Master and Alfrid are terrible characters who feature in too large a portion of it (and characters of that exact type almost always are terrible.)
i think one reason this film felt longer than even the extended cut of Return of the King was just the pacing, and how little actually occurred in the story. you could really sense the story being stretched out here. i mean Legolas was basically the main character in the third act, or so it felt. He was involved w/every character.
― omar little, Thursday, 12 April 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
The various fan edits floating around help to a great degree -- there's one especially good one that reduces all three films to a three hour effort and follows the plotline of the original as closely as they can possibly manage it. You can sense the joins here and there but it really helps.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link
Sooooo, as I've mentioned in other threads, in two weeks' time our podcast on Tolkien will finally get around to talking about these films in front of an audience:
https://www.megaphonic.fm/live-2023
Rewatched them all this week for the first time since 2015. That was a slog.
Lindsey Ellis's video series was mentioned a little earlier in the thread but let's link them all, shall we:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTRUQ-RKfUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElPJr_tKkO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi7t_g5QObs
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 April 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link
And our podcast is live! We had thoughts, we did.
https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/50
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 May 2023 15:25 (one year ago) link
Congrats on making it to the big 5-0! (Enjoyed the last one on the animated RoTK, btw.)
― got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Monday, 1 May 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link
Hahah thanks. I'm glad that we're kinda through a lot of the 'uhhh' adaptations woods after these last few months -- we need to get back to the actual work itself! Which we are, per Jared's choice of the next topic.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 May 2023 16:05 (one year ago) link
It's all part of the rich tapestry, imo!
― got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Monday, 1 May 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link
I think these movies are worse than the Star Wars prequels. By a lot.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 25 January 2024 01:44 (three months ago) link
Oh yes
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 January 2024 03:46 (three months ago) link
As far as characterization goes, Alfrid Lickspittle makes Jar Jar Binks look like Harry Lime.
― omar little, Thursday, 25 January 2024 03:51 (three months ago) link
They're better than Rings of Power by, like, a lot.
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 January 2024 04:55 (three months ago) link
Rings Of Power has the big advantage of not being 48fps
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 January 2024 09:42 (three months ago) link
Yeah, as bad as Rings was it was less ugly and tedious than the Hobbit films.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 25 January 2024 11:08 (three months ago) link
48fps is fabulous, it literally looked like you could walk in to the screen. It will be shame if it never catches on because the film designed to champion it was a steaming turd.
― organ doner (ledge), Thursday, 25 January 2024 11:14 (three months ago) link
no it looked like a bad soap opera sped up
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 January 2024 11:15 (three months ago) link
Like watching someone else play a video game all evening.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 25 January 2024 14:04 (three months ago) link
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR)
Unwelcome flashback to the barrel sequence. Hard to believe I watched all three of these in the cinema.
― chap, Sunday, 10 March 2024 19:44 (two months ago) link
Haha. I did the same. I'd complety forgotten about the barrel scene. In fact, I think I must have totally blanked them all out as the only thing I vaguely remember is the fucking atrocious Radagast sleigh bit
― groovypanda, Sunday, 10 March 2024 20:03 (two months ago) link
That was the lulz and best thing in the films, I wouldn't go so far as to say befitting the original conception of this children's book but nothing like the travesty of the barrel sequence, or the rollercoaster in the golbin caves.
― gene besserit (ledge), Sunday, 10 March 2024 20:57 (two months ago) link