Rolling Metal Thread 2009

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review seems to boil down to, "this black metal band plays black metal too much on these records."

original bgm, Friday, 22 May 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I was actually slightly disappointed by Black Cascade, mainly because I don't think it followed through on the most promising aspects of Malevolent Grain that I really liked. But still, no way either of them deserved that kind of trashing.

homage is parody gone sour (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 May 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

it just means BM isnt hip in pitchforkland now. troo elitists will be rejoicing that their music isnt being tainted by hipsters anymore.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 22 May 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

it's confusing because the same dude wrote both this review and the two hunters review. i don't get one guy feeling so differently about those records.

anyway, show last night: john was right, it was pretty amazing. krallice was very good, played all new stuff. they were held back a little bit by sound issues (mick barr couldn't figure out why his guitar was like twice as loud as the other guy's) and the fact that they played pretty early and didn't get cool lighting or anything. new songs sound great though.

then we chilled in the back during a storm of light because they are a pretty boring doom-lite band.

wolves in the throne room was incredible. i think it's easy to underestimate them as musicians on their albums, but no chance you could do so live. they are really really good, a special band imo. everything was balanced perfectly and sounded amazing. great setlist too, some new stuff plus "vastness and sorrow" (still my favorite song of theirs) and the first song from diadem as a crowd-pleasing encore. i'll repeat the message: go see them if you get a chance.

yeah, black cascade is single-minded in a way that malevolent grain isn't. and I was initially disappointed for the same reasons.

but is it really that much of a departure from the rest of their catalog? I don't think so. it's just probably their most METAL record. not a bad thing, imo.

I have to see wittr live sometime. just missed em.

original bgm, Friday, 22 May 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

well theres been rumours about bone awl for a while. So fuck knows. I have an lp and tape of theirs so id be gutted if they really were into it

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 17:39 (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Coming in late to this but yeah are you sure you're not thinking of someone else? I do love me the fuck out of some Bone Awl I must say

S-Ban Hour Best Hit Parade (DJ Mencap), Friday, 22 May 2009 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I just kind of expect it when it comes to BM. It's not really going to influence me liking it either way, I mean I like Burzum and Mayhem and shit so whatevs.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Friday, 22 May 2009 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

review seems to boil down to, "this black metal band plays black metal too much on these records."

Seems to me like if anything he's saying the opposite?

S-Ban Hour Best Hit Parade (DJ Mencap), Friday, 22 May 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link

New Ahkmed is really good. Anyone else heard it?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 22 May 2009 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Seems to me like if anything he's saying the opposite?

oh yeah? I just skimmed at work and don't feel like re-reading, but it seemed like the dude kept saying that two hunters was way more varied/pulled in more disparate influences/etc. which is true to some extent but I feel like this is such a common non-metal guy complaint! and it always makes me wonder, "well, why are you even listening to metal records if what really floats your boat are the non-metal bits?"

original bgm, Friday, 22 May 2009 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah truth... I guess you can substitute 'metal' for a whole load of other genres and there's an example, like ppl whose favourite punk band ever is Refused or who think it's wildly exciting that an indie-rap producer listens to Stereolab or something

S-Ban Hour Best Hit Parade (DJ Mencap), Friday, 22 May 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't have a problem with it per se though, I don't think most people's tastes are worked out via spreadsheet... you end up liking and disliking stuff for all manner of arbitary reasons. Anyway, the review had that bit about sounding like Enya which I was going on partly, so I guess he's not saying the opposite so much as "this has relatively trad BM bits and non-trad BM bit and non-BM at all bits and none of them are very good"

S-Ban Hour Best Hit Parade (DJ Mencap), Friday, 22 May 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, I generally don't care either. just a little frustrating coming from a critic trashing a record.

original bgm, Friday, 22 May 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

haha

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 22 May 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Scott how could you embarrass yourself like that ;)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 22 May 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

that's not me, it's chris farley back from the dead!

scott seward, Friday, 22 May 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

wow

slugbaiting (rockapads), Friday, 22 May 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't see the problem. Art-metal fans can't be trusted with sharp objects now?

unperson, Friday, 22 May 2009 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

well, if someone gets stabbed or killed with it imagine the bad publicity the label and band will get. The customs will also have a field day if anyone outside the usa tries to order it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 22 May 2009 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link

kind of tempted to buy it though tbh.

slugbaiting (rockapads), Friday, 22 May 2009 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link

i dig it. that blue collar distro place is cool. they'll put your name on anything. the harvey milk stadium cups are cool too:

http://www.bluecollardistro.com/bcd/images/hhi-sc-159-02.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 22 May 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link

isis pint glass is sweet

http://www.bluecollardistro.com/bcd/images/isi-pg-001-01.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 22 May 2009 23:51 (fourteen years ago) link

ok i think i need that pint glass

unattainable panini (jjjusten), Saturday, 23 May 2009 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm loving the new "acoustic" Eluveitie album. I was kind of worried it was going to be noodly and gutless, just to prove some sort of cultural point, but it's not. It's basically a metal album performed on acoustic instruments (including drums). And a really good one.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 23 May 2009 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, the Eluveitie was a really pleasant surprise. Pretty darn heavy for an acoustic record, too.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 23 May 2009 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Acoustic metal sounds EXACTLY what I've been looking for. Thanks for the tip :)

Mordy, Saturday, 23 May 2009 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I liked that Eluveitie disc too.

unperson, Saturday, 23 May 2009 01:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Some of the songs were a little weird. Can't remember which off the top of my head, though.

don't cry, emo hamster (J3ff T.), Saturday, 23 May 2009 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i almost hit everyone in Opeth with my car on friday

phil ochsymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 24 May 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

also, akerfeldt was wearing a gingham red/white shirt at that time

phil ochsymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 24 May 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

nothing else to report

phil ochsymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 24 May 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

you hated his shirt that much?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 24 May 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

it was cute actually, and i didnt see him until it was almost too late, the drummer guy pointed at me like "look at this crazy girl driver" and akerfeldt skipped up the bus stairs with some astounding agility

all this was to chase grutle and ice dale who tbh i passed earlier on the street carrying to-go containers from old city java and grutle gave me possibly the gruffest "HI." i've ever received.

had a great weekend with opeth/enslaved on my birthday and then day 2 of deathfest the following day. BOLT THROWER! <3

phil ochsymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 24 May 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

it was my favorite time seeing opeth, despite incongruous theater setting -- actually kinda made it more awesome. it was definitely a crowd there to see opeth, which was odd because in my head enslaved were the main event, but then it was obviously a different thing altogether when i got there. grutle did this great, hissing intro to "ruun" where he mimed the shape of the "daeg" rune with his hands and I looked around and everyone in the audience was kinda blank. :/ when opeth came out the place practically went up in flames, and i understood what was up. akerfeldt's banter is great. heart were playing across the street at the tennessee theater, and he said "i am very sad tonight because heart playing. i think i want to fuck them both." haw!

phil ochsymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 24 May 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I was shocked at how much more exciting Opeth were than Enslaved this year.

But tell us more about Bolt Thrower!

Nate Carson, Monday, 25 May 2009 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I will tell more later, but for right now I'll just call it blissful and wild. My first headbang of the season!

The whole scenario (kids eavesdropping from the overpass, group headbanging, amazing band, etc) made me proud to be a metalhead.

phil ochsymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 25 May 2009 00:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Opeth always delivers...sure wish Enslaved's headlining tour wasn't nixed.

heart were playing across the street at the tennessee theater, and he said "i am very sad tonight because heart playing. i think i want to fuck them both."

Further proof we need a book of the collected stage banter of Mikael Akerfeldt. There was a thread on the BW&BK board that was just hilarious.

A. Begrand, Monday, 25 May 2009 02:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey, it was nice meeting you at Deathfest, Adrian. Though I don't know that you know that was me.

the starring role in tostitos way (roxymuzak), Monday, 25 May 2009 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey, it was nice meeting you at Deathfest, Adrian. Though I don't know that you know that was me.

I'm afraid I actually spent the weekend 1500 miles from Baltimore. Did my evil twin escape or something?

A. Begrand, Monday, 25 May 2009 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I think someone made me the victim of a ruse!!!!!!!!!!

the starring role in tostitos way (roxymuzak), Monday, 25 May 2009 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha, wait! False alarm, I was thinking that you were Al Mudrian. I smoked a little weed this weekend tbh. :/

I am embarassed!

the starring role in tostitos way (roxymuzak), Monday, 25 May 2009 05:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha. No biggie!

A. Begrand, Monday, 25 May 2009 05:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha, actually I had you both confused with Anthony Bartkewicz!?

Anyway, how about that metal

the starring role in tostitos way (roxymuzak), Monday, 25 May 2009 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Decibel does own the record for hiring the most writers with the initials AB, that's for sure.

A. Begrand, Monday, 25 May 2009 05:50 (fourteen years ago) link

The Decibel table at Deathfest was a beacon of calm in a sea of insanity btw

the starring role in tostitos way (roxymuzak), Monday, 25 May 2009 05:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Grabbed a drink with Albert a few weeks ago when he was in Los Angeles for Murderfest, he seemed a bit stressed out but he was a nice guy. I know this because he didn't fire me when I revealed my love for Roxette.

Meanwhile, saw Gojira put on a seriously star making performance at the Key Club last night. I've seen them open for bands a couple times, but the sound always sucked. Last night, the sound was great, the crowd was there for them, and my God, I had forgotten how transcendent concerts could be. They seriously made the club shake.

don't cry, emo hamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 25 May 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link


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