Israel to World: "Suck It."

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three weeks pass...

This is a remarkable statement by an Israeli general, translated by @ShunraCat, that the IDF's snipers shoot children not as a personal choice but as policy approved at the highest level https://t.co/LnnZOTgygZ pic.twitter.com/xiIx8VcbCh

— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) April 23, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 April 2018 21:03 (six years ago) link

i'd eat it

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Monday, 7 May 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link

As a follow-up to the atrocities this week. On Israel's shoot to maim policy:

as we're all struggling to digest the unconscionable images and numbers coming out of Palestine over the last few days and weeks, it is worth amplifying the fact that the policy of the Israeli state is to shoot to maim, injure, or disable rather than kill.

— kai a. bosworth (@kaibosworth) May 15, 2018

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 09:32 (five years ago) link

Is that post intended to convey information

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 12:39 (five years ago) link

Just emphasizing the failure of the policy

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link

I'm just amazed anybody thinks "shoot to hurt" is a believable line, much less a policy that a standing army would comply with - cops don't even bother with such pretense

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link

this post on LGM - by an israeli commenter - is really depressing

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/05/problem-voters-dont-want-another-path

also a good reminder of why splintering your left wing into various fronts is a terrible idea

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link

we have the trail of tears and such. not to be inflammatory for real but genuinely curious what the israelis call the 1940s/50s relocation of the palestinians

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link

I'm just amazed anybody thinks "shoot to hurt" is a believable line

There are many things to be amazed by - use your imagination.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 May 2018 11:10 (five years ago) link

This was good, published yesterday and written before this week's attrocities:

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v40/n10/henry-siegman/the-two-state-solution-an-autopsy-

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 May 2018 11:11 (five years ago) link

Really powerful piece:

https://forward.com/opinion/401486/the-racism-of-blaming-palestinians-for-their-own-deaths/

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 May 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link

we have the trail of tears and such. not to be inflammatory for real but genuinely curious what the israelis call the 1940s/50s relocation of the palestinians

― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:08 AM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A common version you hear is "They left volunarily" or "The Arab powers told them to leave and promised them Israel would be destroyed and that they could return after." I usually try to point out that people who flee warzones are called refugees, and that it's pretty understandable to not want to hang out in your house in the middle of a battle, and that fleeing does not evince an intent to give up your home.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 21 May 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link

And of course some people did flee "voluntarily," but others were quite literally forced out at gunpoint.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 21 May 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

It's like a script from Mel Brooks. Netanyahu says to an Arab member of the Knesset: "How dare you talk this way about the only democracy in the Middle East?" https://t.co/Hh9oxpmsHL

— corey robin (@CoreyRobin) July 19, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link

pull your pants up, dude in the photo

the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Friday, 20 July 2018 02:02 (five years ago) link

If you've ever wondered how today's media would cover openly segregationist laws, you have your answer. From this morning's @nytimes: pic.twitter.com/b7vjjXb6yB

— Alex Emmons (@AlexEmmons) July 20, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 July 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link

#Breaking: Following reports of continued attacks against IDF soldiers near Karni crossing, IDF is bombing area. reports of 2 Palestinians dead.

— Noga Tarnopolsky (@NTarnopolsky) July 20, 2018

too many war kites must have been launched from gaza. surely hamas is responsible and will be put down like the animals they are. /sarcasm

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 20 July 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Israel is not Nazi Germany. And this kind of rhetoric is often used by hard-right governments that don't end up committing genocide. But this worldview can be called fascist without exaggeration, and hearing it from Netanyahu is alarming and disturbing. pic.twitter.com/RfXOFUeb4Z

— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) August 30, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 August 2018 23:52 (five years ago) link

Is anyone labouring under the illusion that the current Israeli goverment isn't hard right?

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Friday, 31 August 2018 00:09 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/benjamin-netanyahu-predicted-rise-authoritarianism/578374/

But Bibi took the opposite bet: that ethnic and cultural change would lead to an anti-liberal backlash making Orbán, not Obama, the model for European leaders. Rather than populism being a hiccup on the road to a grander, woke tomorrow, Bibi bet that it was the tomorrow. Deep, fierce attachment to nation and state was not going to fade away. It was going to fight back and win. And systematically, Bibi began courting the illiberals, authoritarians, and strongmen who, instead of fading, just kept on multiplying.

[...]

What I hadn’t realized, especially at the time, was that the Obama theory of history was only about the West. Not only did it have nothing to say about China, it also dismissed Vladimir Putin as some kind of throwback—a “19th-century” phenomenon, to quote Obama’s secretary of state, John Kerry—destined to swift irrelevance. It still has nothing to say about the bloodbath that followed the Arab revolutions, or about the strongmen, not the democrats, consolidating power across the Middle East. There was not supposed to be any future for authoritarian capitalism.

Maybe it was the fierce pessimism of Bibi’s father, the historian Benzion Netanyahu, that shaped his views (an influence brilliantly explored by Bibi’s biographer, Anshel Pfeffer). Or perhaps it was the belief, inherent in Zionism itself, in the inevitability of nationalism and ethnic struggle. But instead of aligning himself with John Kerry and Cathy Ashton, Bibi positioned Israel to work with the emerging demagogues. And now we are living in the world that Bibi expected.

Only watching from Jerusalem, keeping a tab on his visits and his visitors, can you see just how successful Bibi has been. Never before have the leaders of Russia, Brazil, India, Saudi Arabia, the Philippines, and now Italy had such strong ties with Israel. Never before have they seen the leader that sits in Jerusalem as indispensable to their objectives. And this, not John Kerry’s “solutions,” has earned the respect of the strongmen who now rule from Cairo to Ankara to Pakistan.

things always change tho. right-wing seems ascendent today but maybe 2 or 6 years from now the left will seem ascendent again. but def anyone who thought that Obamaism was the guaranteed future was substituting hope for pragmatism.

Mordy, Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

Attorney General: Israeli PM Netanyahu To Be Indicted On Fraud, Bribery Charges https://t.co/VKKVXG9x8E via @TPM

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) February 28, 2019

[insert ron paul "it's happening" meme]

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:14 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

new trumpian territory... from four years ago?

Trumpism is a state of mind.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:10 (four years ago) link

goddammit

well at least he was there first

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link

So there were a bunch of rockets fired at Israel and Israeli airstrikes in Gaza then a ceasefire and there's almost no coverage of it?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

a forever story

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

It was covered over here fwiw.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

ffs

pomenitul, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

can the golan heights trump hotel, resort and casino be far behind

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

This is even worse than it seems.

A national suicide of the Palestinians’ current political and cultural ethos is precisely what is needed for peace, writes Israel's ambassador to the United Nations https://t.co/cDS6DwOTBt

— New York Times Opinion (@nytopinion) June 24, 2019

Frederik B, Monday, 24 June 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

new york times op ed page is a sewer

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 24 June 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

jfc

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 24 June 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

OMFG

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 24 June 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link

"accepting the olive branch"

lol is this now a euphemism

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 24 June 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link

I’m happy for any newspaper to give the Israeli government a megaphone to broadcast how horrific it is tbh.

ShariVari, Monday, 24 June 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

Top-notch ambassadorial skills.

pomenitul, Monday, 24 June 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

He always seemed like such a nice guy previously.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/9287715/Israeli-anti-immigration-riots-hit-African-neighbourhood-of-Tel-Aviv.html

The predominately black neighbourhood of Hatikva was ransacked by groups of nationalist protesters who had attended a demonstration on Wednesday night against illegal African migrants.

The protesters claim the Africans are responsible for a rise in crime, bearing signs saying "This is not Africa" and "Stop talking, start expelling".

"Blacks out!" shouted demonstrators in the crowd....

Peace Now, an Israeli human rights organisation, is calling for an investigation into whether the speakers at Wednesday night's rally, including Knesset ministers Miri Regev, Danny Danon, Yari Levin and Michael Ben-Ari, are guilty of incitement.

During her address, Ms Regev described illegal immigrants as a "cancer in our society".

Danny Danon, a member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party, wrote in a Facebook status later the same evening: "Israel is at war. An enemy state of infiltrators was established in Israel, and its capital is south Tel Aviv."

ShariVari, Monday, 24 June 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

ethnostates gonna ethnostate

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 24 June 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link

yeah, see, that's *exactly* the sort of thing that only happens in israel!

the late great, Monday, 24 June 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

who could imagine such scenes in western europe or even america

the late great, Monday, 24 June 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

Why, yes, of course. We all know if you can find racism in other countries, it excuses it in your own.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 24 June 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link

well wait he said it was an ethnostate though

the late great, Monday, 24 June 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link

is that different from ordinary racism?

the late great, Monday, 24 June 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link

Late Great is otm. Remember, the Swedish ambassador to the UN killed Oluf Palme.

Frederik B, Monday, 24 June 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link

tbf our conservative pols in government in the uk are a bit more circumspect in their being racist and evil. no fomenting racial pogroms, more deporting british residents because they're black

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 24 June 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link


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