thread for contemplating the serious issues raised by the Men's Rights movement

of course a feminist being shut down by MRA twitter trolls has a more thoughtful stance on how men can be disproportionately victimized by domestic violence and abuse than probably 100% of self-identified MRAs

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/03/killallmen-feminist-liberation-satire

Men, as well as young boys, are absolutely victims of domestic violence. No serious advocate would try and tell you otherwise. Men in both heterosexual and homosexual relationships can experience physical abuse at the hands of a partner. Male children are also vulnerable to abuse from mothers and not just fathers. However, there’s a difficulty in assessing whether they are more likely because of the stigma around reporting. Women are simply more likely to report intimate physical abuse. It is my own personal opinion that men and boys have a much harder time coming to grips with physical and sexual abuse and might very well need more support in the short term.

I am just genuinely puzzled by this one, which argument I see in various forms

https://i.redd.it/b2cvp29ills31.jpg

Are there men out there who feel cheated out of the chance to be a single dad by a woman's right to choose? I really don't want to just outright mock this because, who knows, maybe those guys are out there, but I find it hard to believe.

jesus h christ

Can women choose to have free access to appropriate birth control in America yet? When I was there the system seemed designed to make it as much of a headache as possible. At least the wannabe single dads benefit I guess.

I mean obviously the ONLY real point here is "it's unfair to make me pay child support (because hypothetically I didn't have the choice to do a bunch of other stuff I never in a million years would have done)." But in these guys minds do they really think they were somehow deprived of those other choices?

the point is "anything that i don't want or that i think is bad that could happen to me makes me a victim"

Can women choose to have free access to appropriate birth control in America yet?
No

They can also CHOOSE to exercise boner control when it comes to having the sex that produces the baby.

Are there men out there who feel cheated out of the chance to be a single dad by a woman's right to choose?

i think there actually are? (no i cannot explain it)

Are there men out there who feel cheated out of the chance to be a single dad by a woman's right to choose? I really don't want to just outright mock this because, who knows, maybe those guys are out there, but I find it hard to believe.

by "not the most stable" I mean the dude was a very sweet guy, but also a total alcoholic. not that he was violent or abusive or anything.