This is the thread where we talk about great Beach Boys+BW unreleased/demo/semi-released songs

realllly wasn't gonna listen to the mike love albums, but I guess I have to now

I take it back, Daybreak is pretty much terrible by the end. Not really sure if Carl is on it, hard to tell.

"Tricia" is a pretty good little rocker (saved the best for last, I guess). Definitely hear Carl on this, has a nice little driving beat and hook. Weird slide guitar solo.

... and now, on to the country album...

I like 'you're looking better'

"Today I Started Loving You" cover sounds like any other countrypolitan 70s production but Mike's flat vocal delivery doesn't really do the song any favors.

"Dallas" is about how rockers should stay away and he'll never play there again (even though now he "lives in a palace/and drinks from a chalice"...? lolz now picturing Mike Love pimp cup)

this isn't nearly as bad as I imagined it would be.

yeah a lot of it isn't awful per se, its just kinda lifeless

'wrinkles' = lollllllllll

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lolz "Beth on the Mesa" lyrics about preserving trees

omg yeah Wrinkles is like some Jeanie Teasdale shit

I am listening to it on repeat nonetheless

seriously rofling at the digital drumpad hits in "Brand New Start"

These lyrics really need to be typed up:

She once had a doggie named Wrinkles
Who went with her pigtails and freckles.
Just like a tisket and a tasket
He came one Christmas in a basket

He'd jump on her lap and would kiss her
When she'd go away he would miss her
He used to tag along beside her
A furry flop haired easy rider

Wrinkles , I'll see you on the other side
I couldn't believe it when they said you'd died
I couldn't keep myself from crying
I even almost felt like dying

Wrinkles, I know I'll get to see you again
I don't know exactly where or how or when
Such a good dog, I'm believing
You're happy up in doggy heaven

Wrinkles, though you're gone away
I feel sure that we will play some day
Just like in the good ole days
Just you and me (togetherrrrrr)

this whole album is WAY more wtf than the other one (and not really all that "country" either...?)

odd marijuana reference in "baby I'm a Changed Man"

I think the only song off this I am gonna ever listen to again is 'wrinkles'

More Brian Wilson:

'Black Widow' - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QJZQA2ZR

I only searched out this'un cause this guy http://www.earcandymag.com/rrcase-jazzwilson.htm hyped it up. It's actually pretty interesting.

More Paley sessions:

Soul Searchin' - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CLS0SP5K

Re-worked for one of his last solo albums, this version is better. Great song.

I wonder if that's the Andy Paley-sung version of "Soul Searchin'." It could be Carl. But it sure as hell isn't Brian.

I thought it was carl, I didn't even know there was an andy paley version?

The opening track of First Love sounds like "Black Cow" by Steely Dan without the irony.

Oh and thank god: http://www.addmoremusic.net/blog/2009/01/looking-back-with-love-mike-lo.html

http://www.addmoremusic.net/blog/img/3812392131850117704847960544312033d1.jpg

haha, Mike LOLve
in other news: http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2009/05/unreleasedish_beach_boys_song.html

whoah

was looking for a copy of Landlocked and found this - Cocaine Sessions is pretty out there

yeah imo cocaine sessions is interesting only as historical document, but as far as whoa-wilsons-are-crazy-documents go, it's up there

sweeet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcMptujdlb4&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogqae2wnVrs&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPJ2TjPHkgw

really amazing how much of this stuff there is. I guess we'll have to wait til they're all dead (esp. Mike Love) to see most of it get an official release

big fan of that one

is that version different from the one on the box set? cuz it seems better to me somehow

I don't believe so?

yeah afaik there's only one version

also wikipedia says

'The song was written in 1970 as a veiled comment on the alleged suppression of the NY Times by the US government. Originally intended for the 1971 Surf's Up album, it was pulled by Dennis after an argument with brother Carl over sequencing the album.'

my alternate reality version of Surf's Up:

Long Promised Road
Feel Flows
A Day in the Life of a Tree
Til I Die
Surf's Up
Big Sur (alt version)
4th of July
Lady
Loop de Loop

does anyone have any recommendations on where I can get MP3s for some of the stuff on this thread...? a lot of the BB blogs out there seem to focus on, like, instrumental/alternate mixes of their 60s material, when mostly I'm interested in unreleased stuff from the late 60s on ...

http://linear-zap-music.blogspot.com/

this dude has a lot, there are some similar blogs out there

I found a lot of stuff off soulseek some years ago, my bb mp3 collection is pretty messy though. if you know what you're looking for you can find it on some mp3 blog or on soulseek. looking for anything in particular?

http://beachboysboots.blogspot.com/

some of the dl links are dead here, some aren't

looking for anything in particular?

I'm not really sure - primarily I'm just curious about 70s outtakes, stuff that was left off albums for whatever reason. I already have Landlocked (which is great) and the Brian Wilson "Adult Child" stuff - but judging from these youtube clips and various blogs there's more out there. I just dunno if it's ever been collected under one title or if there's just bits here and there or what. I do not, for example, have a decent MP3 of 4th of July (which appears to have only been released on the BB's box set? I ain't dl'ing that whole thing just for one song)

there def isn't one title, just a ton of random amateur collections of 20 songs. see: http://bwfan0.tripod.com/id3.html - super frustrating.

4th of july is pretty easily soulseekable...can just get the album track from someone who has the box set. (I'd send it to you but I don't have it on this computer...)

http://www.btinternet.com/~bellagio/unreleased.html

I linked this upthread, but it's imo the best source of info on that era of beach boys unreleased material. if something there looks interesting, look for a bootleg (or ask me) that has it. but just downloading a random one (even 'landlocked' - which as that page explains, doesn't really mean anything) is probably just gonna result in a bunch of unassorted songs. I wish somebody had streamlined this by now.

yeah, I mean I have a bunch of this stuff but its all so disorganized and quality varies highly...

There's a torrent file out there with a huge amount of unreleased/alternative Beach Boys files, and with utorrent or whatever you can pick whatever individual files you want to download. But, yeah, there's no organization really.

yeahhh that's the way it is

I mean the bbs have a really complex history (and one that nobody seems to agree on) and who knows how some of this bootleg material ever saw the day of light (and how much hasn't)... so a streamlined collection w/ all of the songs is sorta unrealistic. but yeah, one day?

hmm, would be interested in that torrent myself

v curious about the Fred Vail country album and Dennis "Poops/Hubba-Bubba" entries

x-posts

pretty sure those have not yet surfaced shakey :(

xxpost I can't remember exactly where it was but I'll check later and let you know.

I've been listening to this era a bunch as I have been playing a Smile boot and the 2nd and 3rd disc of the GV set in my car for my daughters as I drive them around to various softball events this summer. They adore "Good Vibrations" and most of the sessions (they prefer the Hum-de-daa section) -- and the older one actually complained when I turned off the cantina version of "Heroes and Villains"! Also, with a bit of perspective in a post-Smile Sessions era, it is straight up hilarious in retrospect how much Smile material made it out in drips and drabs over the years ... the woodshop stuff at the end of "Do It Again" being among the most WTF.

I am honestly probably too excited about what the Wild Honey-era "Surf's Up" will turn out to be. Is it another Brian solo rendition? A "back to basics" take similar to what they were doing in late-'67? Something else?

so is that another take of this smile sessions version, or just a longer edit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3TRns_zssM

It sounds like the same thing except with some aborted takes/practice lines at the start.

I am so bummed this site: http://www.btinternet.com/~bellagio/unreleased.html is dead. now how am I going to tag all of the rarities from iatee's mix with the right year argggh

archive.org to the rescue

https://web.archive.org/web/20121020054242/http://www.btinternet.com/~bellagio/unreleased.html

the wayback machine is your friend.

lol xp

heyo!

many thx

Listened to some of Sunshine Tomorrow on Spotify the last few days ... I have sort of a weird reaction at this point to the dog's breakfast comps the Beach Boys release (Hawthorne, Endless Harmony), which often feature a handful of tracks I adore but a bunch of live takes I'm less interested in.

That said, I do like that they are digging into presenting this post-Smile, quiet piano and organ era of the band, which is an underrated period in the band's history (but appreciated by Xgau, who gave Wild Honey an A+ IIRC) and texturally off the charts. As a result, I love the shit out of things like alternate takes of "Can't Wait Too Long" which I could probably put on loop for an hour and not get bored of. Most of the alternate takes are actually pretty great, just a bit leaner than the (already lean) versions that were previously released.

Another highlight: the rehearsal take of "Heroes and Villains" live in Honolulu (not on Lei'd in Hawaii IIRC, or in the bgd while Mike trashes the shit out of it in a "humorous" monologue). As a rule, I love the hell out of that organ and bass sound on LiH -- and the arrangement of H&V is fabulous.

One other thing that occurred to me this past weekend: has there been any interest in someone taking a whack at remixing some of the material from this era? By which I don't mean remixing in the sense of adding beats but along the lines of what Stephen Desper did with "Til I Die" on the version released on Endless Harmony -- cutting and pasting parts to repeat sections and emphasize vocal backgrounds and the like. Feel like this would be an awesome undertaking.