2008 Primaries Thread

here comes hillz

Peggy Noonan still dreaming of writing another Boys of Pointe du Hoc speech.

If Romney wins CA and splits the rest of the western states with McCain the night ends with McCain 300 / Romney 250 / Huckabee 150, but if Romney doesn't win CA he's tied with Huck and McCain's up by 250. (Totals.) Which mostly closes the race.

whoa -- Obama wiping Clinton in Idaho.

thanks to great micing, Hillary sounds like a robot fo realz

Funny: HRC is a better debater than a stump speaker; Obama is a better stump speaker than a debater. Or maybe HRC's speech is just a bit lackluster tonight.

is the daily show going live tonight?

Weird tornado reference. HRC WILL STOP TORNADOS.

GO MITT F---G ROMNEY IN CALIFORNIA.

whoa -- Obama wiping Clinton in Idaho.

Yikes! Maybe she should concede?

Maybe.

It would be nice if Mittens took Ca.

77% to 22%, according to NBC.

(xxpost)

NBC calls Minnesota for Obama.

current drudge breakdown:

CLINTON: AR, MA, MO, NY, NJ, OK, TN
OBAMA: AL, CT, DE, GA, ID, IL, KS, MN, ND, UT

HUCKABEE: AL, AR, GA, MO, TN, WV
MCCAIN: AZ, CT, DE, IL, NJ, NY, OK
ROMNEY: MA, MN, MT, ND, UT

hell yeah, stay in huckabee, out of spite for romney if nothing else.

NONONONONONONONONONONO.

WE WANT MITTENS TO WIN

Did Harold Ford campaign for Hillary in TN? Dude _was_ put into command of the DLC last year.

yeah, but mccain & huck hate the FUCK out of romney, so really we have benefits all round.

Besides, there's still California to call.

I kind of like Hillary, she reminds me of some of my relatives

ND & ME to Romneybot 8000

So the theory is that Mitt appeals to CA conservatives who don't like McCain's moderate aura but also don't like Huck's evangelicalism?

The OC is a strange place.

He'd fit in perfectly in Newport Beach, for sure.

I mean I can't conceive of a fully-functioning human being liking Mitt Romney, so maybe I'm biased...

xpost They'd like his pro-biz schtick?

I like him a lot! As a figure of fun, anyway... xp

I live around here, Eppy, I can! They appear in local magazines called OC Metro and congratulate each other at big beefy meals.

It seems to be that one pattern that is holding up tonight is that Obama beats Clinton in all of the caucus states. Is it just a coincidence that the caucuses happen to be in states where Obama's support is strong, or is there something about the caucus format that favors Obama?

my brother today: "I'm not voting for Clinton, she reminds me of my HS friend's mean mom"

xpost I guess he just seems like such a rube! Has anyone read that Transmetropolitan series where there's an election going on and one candidate is referred to as "the Smiler"? Looks exactly like Romney.

from the msnbc frontpage right now:

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/ArtAndPhoto-Fronts/COVER/080205/g-cvr-080205-hillary-804p.grid-4x2.jpg

http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/ArtAndPhoto-Fronts/COVER/080205/g-cvr-080205-romney-620p.thumb-m.jpg

I guess he just seems like such a rube!

And this is undercutting the general perception of him how...?

in mn, the 'caucus' is no different than a primary really, you mark your preference, there's no second round stuff like in ia

i think 'caucus' means that other party business can be attended to at those meetings

MO to Clinton

I caucused tonight (KS) and the room was huuuuugely for Obama (like 4 to 1, 800ish people there), but I don't think it was the caucus format that engendered it. Clinton is a very hard sell huge; tonight it was just old ladies going for her. Whereas the Obama part of the room was packed and rockin (college town).

xpost here it was a "stand with the people who support your candidate and we'll count you by hand". We had two rounds of voting, like Iowa.

I sometimes have nightmares where Lou Dobbs is the cruel ringmaster in an evil circus of terror and fright

xpost gff is exactly right about caucusing in MN; if you stay to do the actual "caucusing," you can offer resolutions to the party platform. I have never done it, though.

i can't remember where i read this but an iowan said somewhere that what can happen is a couple goes together to the caucus, she wants to vote hillary, he's leaning obama (or edwards), and then they realize they've got to go stand in their caucus groups separately and who wants to do that, so she goes with him

Drudge & MSNBC have Romney in the lead in CO.

in MO, the diff is currently 50-47 Hill, but with only 83% reporting.

xp: more fun with Lou Dobbs

I sometimes have nightmares where Lou Dobbs is the cruel ringmaster in an evil circus of terror and fright, botw

Meanwhile, here in Oregon, our primary isn't until May 20th, whereas at least Washington gets their's on Saturday...

tracer that anecdote is buried in the nomination thread.

tracer i bet that happens exactly never

bitches be votin how their hubbies tell em

noooooo. not MO to clinton. argh. that's the Predictor State.

superstition

cnn calling GA for huckabee

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