Steven Spielberg - classic or dud

It's remarkable how well he's done considering a main theme is I wanna fuck my Mom

― i, grey, Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:18 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

worked for sophocles

ILX really hated Hitchcock in 1965

well he'd just made marnie, which was a very divisive picture

i'm sure S.S. will make something really fluffy w/ Julia Roberts & Steve Martin if only Surmounter asks him.

"ILX really hated Hitchcock in 1965"

Yeah they're really similar directors except for Stephen Spielberg consistently sucking and Hitchcock being consistently great.

i'm sure S.S. will make something really fluffy w/ Julia Roberts & Steve Martin if only Surmounter asks him.

that would be too unpretentious

i mean hes only made two good movies since but

wtf is the 2nd one????

― Lamp, Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:30 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i am legend

wtf is the 1st one?

bad boys 2

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lol i tht u were going 2 say hitch

xp really?

Yeah they're really similar directors except for Stephen Spielberg consistently sucking and Hitchcock being consistently great

Nice poll idea. I can think of at least 10 Hitchcock films that totally suck, though.

More talk of sucking and cock plz.

haha no i pulled "two" out of my ass and then just named the first 2 i could remember

aka i did what ive been doing on ILX for 3 years now

Part of being a commercial filmmaker is that you're going to mistake the public mood and make terrible movies on occasion. I don't hold Spielberg or Hitchcock's failures against them.

bad boys 2 is pretty good if not the masterpiece that some other ilc mod claims but yah

u know whats a good movie is minority report

mistaking the public mood seems to be an excuse for a film that flops rather than a bad film

It's both too.

how would it result in a bad film?

minority report is good but has a kind of dum ending

"Nice poll idea. I can think of at least 10 Hitchcock films that totally suck, though."

Guy made like 50 though. He's entitled to a few stinkers. 10 seems high though.

There's plenty of bad films that flop!

Hitch's: Torn Curtain, Topaz -- bad films and totally out of step with their respective release year's big films.

Okay that's two.

He made nearly 20 movies before arriving at the original Man Who Knew Too Much and The 39 Steps, and most of them are no Rear Windows.

i guess what i'm asking is why a film that misreads a commercial audience would = a bad film, unless you're saying certain hackish tendencies of both filmmakers (in angling for box office) ruin the film

i guess what i'm asking is why a film that misreads a commercial audience would = a bad film, unless you're saying certain hackish tendencies of both filmmakers (in angling for box office) ruin the film

I never suggested a causal relationship, and sorry if I didn't make myself clear.

xxp Sure sure and a lot of them are really dated, but sucks still seems harsh. There are some early gems there too.

i forgive you. this time!

sucks still seems harsh

Unless you're talking about Spielberg, natch.

even tho i love Marnie, i still think it kind of sucks

Nothing is too harsh when applied to Spielberg.

Marnie and Torn Curtain goofy, but entertaining enough to avoid being completely useless. Topaz and Family Plot suck. I've not seen all (or even most of) the pre-39 Steps flicks, but I recall Blackmail and Sabotage being worthwhile.

Add Jamaica Inn, The Paradine Case, Rope, I Confess, The Wrong Man to the suck list.

I'm sure most of the silent films are pretty lame, but they are silent films so I have little expectation of greatness. It seems lame to count that against him.

I haven't seen Jamaica Inn, but the other four are all very watchable.

they are silent films so I have little expectation of greatness.

Um, subtract The Wrong Man and I Confess from the suck list.

Also, Spielberg.

Anyway I'm sure I've said this on other threads, but the main reason I dislike Spielberg so much is that he takes film subjects I'm ostensibly interested in and then proceeds to make movies I find immensely disappointing. If he just stuck to making crap I didn't care about at all, I might not be so harsh.

I understand your pain, being that there is a filmmaker in my life called Ang Lee.

Yeah he's another one who irritates me to no end.

Eastwood too.

ugh Ang Lee, I feel you on that one

Eastwood at least made some pretty great stuff pre-90s (none of which he directed, of course)

high plains drifter

Yeah I'm talking about as a director.

"minority report is good but has a kind of dum ending"

wha? this movie is not a movie; it is bad AT&T informercial about the future. In the future, your cereal will talk to you and The Gap will figure out what you want to wear before you do.

In its defense, the book ending is courageously bad, in that it would take amazing hero balls to film as written.

I never saw that Gary Sinise Imposter movie. Is it as crappy as it looked?

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