Ought I to go straight to rogue nation and see how well it sits with me before sampling the others?
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link
First one is a good starting point then three to five in order if it lands imo
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link
imo you could start with any of them as long as you grasp the basic premise
― mh, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link
imo the thing that's the most wild about the second one, other than it being a misfire in tone, is that Dougray Scott was stuck on the set because the production went long, and was replaced by Hugh Jackman in the X-Men film
― mh, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:34 (six years ago) link
lots of opinions today, sorry lads
i tend to think of the first three as standalone films in a way, they all present vv different Ethan Hunts and they're each in service to the style of the director (DePalma's more Hitchcockian flair, Woo's OTT doves and duality thing, JJ Abrams' expensive TV pilot trademark) whereas 4 and 5 feel a bit more in line w/each other and 6 feels like the first direct sequel to the previous installment.
i would start w/4 tbh (not a judgement on the first three, not completely, i just prefer the last couple.)
― omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link
Dougray Scott i actually think was extremely good in MI2, he made for a vv good despicable villain. he'd probably have rather ended up with Hugh Jackman's career obv.
― omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link
most definitely
ironically, of the three, Tom Cruise is the only one with the right height to play Wolverine as envisioned in comics
― mh, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:44 (six years ago) link
as long as you grasp the basic premise
my sense of the basic M:I premise is that it aligns with the usual premise of spy/cloak and dagger entertainments, which is that the viewer has entered a fantastic world that superficially resembles current reality, but where no rules apply, the villains have limitless ambitions and resources, and the heroes have almost as few constraints as the villains do, because as ever, the world hangs in the balance. the good guys always win, but the outcome is in doubt to the final moments.
that about right?
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link
there's an agency called the IMF
they do impossible missions
this message will self-destruct in ten seconds
― mh, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link
oh, right. no worries. I saw dozens of the original series on a b&w cathode ray tube TV back when it was new, and the opening the theme music is still burned into my synapses.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link
wow the new one looks gorgeous
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 22:03 (six years ago) link
ok, I just watched the trailer
McQuarrie truly understands that what we want to see is Cruise running into things at high speed. Finally, someone who gets it
― mh, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link
I also just discovered that there is an Imagine Dragons song that has an opening riff that sounds a lot like the Mission Impossible theme that they interpolated into the theme in the trailer, which... is about perfect for 2018 imo
― mh, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 22:25 (six years ago) link
Could def treat 4 as a reset and start there alright
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?151=&v=XiHiW4N7-bo
― omar little, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiHiW4N7-bo&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiHiW4N7-bo&t=
― omar little, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link
ugh anyway new trailer!
I'm still waiting for one of these movies to fulfill the promise of its title, with Cruise just resignedly sighing mid-mission and saying, 'sorry, guys, this one just isn't possible.'
― The lovely and talented Loretta Switt and the irascible Jamie Farr (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link
guys never ever forget
― under a mand'rin tsar (darraghmac), Friday, 29 June 2018 09:01 (five years ago) link
ethan hunt is
the living manifestation
of destiny
the greatest line, delivery, theme and foreshadowing of a future end-of-days fantasy that has ever been
― under a mand'rin tsar (darraghmac), Friday, 29 June 2018 09:02 (five years ago) link
otm
― stoker (Ross), Friday, 29 June 2018 09:02 (five years ago) link
I haven’t been more excited for an action film since Mad Max Fury Road.
― omar little, Monday, 23 July 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link
same. i’ve rewatched the first four over the past few weeks
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 23 July 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link
if i contributed to 2’s bad rep in the past i apologize
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 23 July 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link
Mega stoked for this
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 July 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
loved two first time round but every subsequent watch it got more and more a parody of everything that made john woo quite awful
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 23 July 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link
two is ok but it's from some alternate universe where the series was going to be about experiments in tone by different directors and not a spy caper/chase scene rollercoaster
― mh, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link
dmac otm, hollywood never really seemed to know what to do with him (the immortal face/off excepted obv)
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:10 (five years ago) link
I was looking forward to this but some of the reviews (incl some of the positive ones) make it sound pretty tiresome tbh
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link
2 is just bad, guys. It's just bad. The rest pretty much own.
― Hi My father very Rusted Root with me what can I do? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link
fuckin' dougray scott ruins everything, the prick
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:24 (five years ago) link
two is a freaking gun and motorbike opera. it’s great. who gives a shit if it’s tonally dissonant with the rest of the series
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link
mind you his appearance in mi2 saved us from the horrifying prospect of a dougray scott wolverine so it's not all bad
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link
it’s got its problems but imo not as many as mi:iii
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link
I'm less concerned with 2's tonal dissonance than I am with the fact that it's real bad.
― Hi My father very Rusted Root with me what can I do? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link
never mind it's bad and i'm wrong
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link
It's not an easy thing to admit, but I salute you.
― Hi My father very Rusted Root with me what can I do? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link
It's kind of the Halloween 3 of the franchise. It probably should've just been its own thing, in which case I would be less likely to harshly judge it alongside an array of movies that rule.
― Hi My father very Rusted Root with me what can I do? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link
Jeffrey Wells loves this one, so run for your lives
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link
I thought "Rogue Nation" was a big letdown after Brad Bird's take. Just felt TV movie-like and mechanical. So I'm surprised same director, etc on this one getting raves.
― An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link
rogue nation is
by some distance
the best MI
iii is what you said. but for some reason it was hugely overrated
in order of good:
v rogue nationi just mivi ghost protocoliii just iii2 why a number
havent seen new one but bet its in top 2
also unofficial mi movies knight and day and jack reacher would slot in above iii in that ranking
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
bg correct about face/off which is bigger than mere ranking, it is the actual tetsuofication of an entire genre
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
I wasn't talking iii -- Brad Bird's was "Ghost Protocol" which is infinitely more fun and stylish than "Rogue Nation". By some distance.
― An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link
Knight and Day is awful
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link
otm, ghost protocol is rad af, brad bird should be forced into live-action directing forever imo xp
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link
all wrong god help me all wrong and what a mess
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link
ghost protocol is fine, but it has all kind of inverted emphasis.typically the weird stunts and physical stuff are supposed to be in service of the caper part, and the most memorable action scenes to me are the cars falling at the end, cruise doing all kinds of acrobatics to get out of jail. neither of which is directly caper-related!
the actual caper parts are like trying to distract the indian businessman and slowly rolling a decoy rig through a hallway
― mh, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link