U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Nino Edition

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Yeah, that was mentioned itt yesterday and totally fucking inevitable.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Friday, 19 January 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link

Sorry, mentioned in the US gov thread.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Friday, 19 January 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link

I enjoyed having dinner tonight at the home of Senator John Cornyn and his wife Sandy with our newest Supreme Court Justice, Neil Gorsuch, Transportation Secretary Chao and a few of my other Senate colleagues to talk about important issues facing our country.

— Sen. Lamar Alexander (@SenAlexander) January 23, 2018

Frederik B, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link

i just... i know it's a waste of time but can you EVEN IMAGINE one of the lib just-- ah fuck it. nothing matters.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link

barf

Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link

I am very self-satisfied and love to drop names.

— Sen. Lamar Alexander (@SenAlexander) January 23, 2018

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

Fuck these fuckers:

The Supreme Court’s conservative bloc may be preparing an attack on state sovereignty in order to maintain a Republican gerrymander through the 2018 midterms.

Last week, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court invalidated the state’s current congressional map, ruling that it favored the GOP in violation of the state constitution and ordering a new, nonpartisan map. Republican legislative leaders asked Justice Samuel Alito, who reviews emergency appeals out of Pennsylvania, to block the decision. Because the Pennsylvania Supreme Court decision involved only state law, Alito should’ve denied the request outright. Instead, he has ordered voting rights advocates to respond, raising the real possibility that a majority of the justices will vote to halt the ruling. If they do, the intervention will mark an extraordinary expansion of the court’s power to prevent states from protecting their residents’ voting rights

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 February 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link

what the fuck

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 February 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link

On Monday, the Supreme Court rejected an effort by Republican leaders in Pennsylvania to restore a Republican gerrymander that has allowed Republicans to dominate the state’s congressional delegation even in years when Democrats won the statewide popular vote.

Last month, the state supreme court ordered new maps drawn for the 2018 election. Now that the Supreme Court of the United States has officially stayed its hand, the state’s gerrymandered congressional districts are all but certain to become a relic of the past.

https://thinkprogress.org/breaking-pennsylvania-gerrymander-dead-d148d15b3710/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 February 2018 18:15 (six years ago) link

Alito?!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 February 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

Huh. I had heard the PA GOP was refusing the state court's ruling to redistrict or whatever. Wonder if this will make a difference or if they'll be charged with contempt.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2018 18:18 (six years ago) link

probably would have set dangerous precedent for all the other times republicans invoke states rights

, Monday, 5 February 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link

Josh I suspect they thought SCOTUS was going to side with them so until the SCOTUS ruling, they could posture however they liked

Hi diddley dee, hen fapper's life for me (Neanderthal), Monday, 5 February 2018 18:27 (six years ago) link

More ethical issues re PA case (not that Gorsuch would see a problem though)--

Last week, after the Pennsylvania state Supreme Court invalidated the state’s GOP-friendly congressional map, top Republicans in the state Legislature asked the state Supreme Court to throw out the decision. One of the Democratic justices, they argued, should have recused himself from the case because of comments he made in 2015 opposing gerrymandering.

But one of these Republicans, Senate President Pro Tempore Joseph Scarnati, did not disclose a more serious conflict of interest: Scarnati donated $25,000 to a different state Supreme Court justice, Republican Sallie Mundy, in April 2017. The donation came through his political action committee.

State Supreme Court justices in Pennsylvania are elected in partisan campaigns, and according to campaign finance disclosures, last year Mundy received donations from Scarnati as well as two Republican members of the US Congress from Pennsylvania. Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick donated $1,000 to Mundy’s campaign on July 27, 2017, after the gerrymandering case was filed in state court, according to Mundy’s filing. On November 1, 2017, after voting rights groups had asked the state Supreme Court to take the case, GOP Rep. Charlie Dent donated $1,000 to Mundy. Both Fitzpatrick’s and Dent’s congressional districts were at stake in the case. Both congressman also gave through their political action committees.

...The vote was 5-2, with Mundy one of the two dissenters. The court ordered new maps to be drawn in time for the 2018 midterm elections.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/02/republicans-fighting-to-protect-gerrymandering-in-pennsylvania-have-an-ethics-problem/

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link

Looks like that Mother Jones article re the ethics issues was written before latest SCOTUS ruling

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Courthouse News reports:

Offering no mention of the Florida school shooting, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas complained Tuesday about the growing stack of Second Amendment cases that are denied high court review.

“The right to keep and bear arms is apparently this court’s constitutional orphan,” Thomas wrote. “And the lower courts seem to have gotten the message.” Thomas penned the dissent this morning after his colleagues rejected a challenge to California’s 10-day waiting period for firearms.

Quoting the court’s last Second Amendment case, the 2010 ruling McDonald v. Chicago, Thomas noted that the Second Amendment is not a “second-class right, subject to an entirely different body of rules than the other Bill of Rights guarantees.”

https://www.courthousenews.com/thomas-balks-as-court-denies-review-to-california-guns-case/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link

Thomas must be referring to the different body of rules that allows him to sexually harass scores of women and remain on the bench

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 17:41 (six years ago) link

reexamination of the evidence against Thomas by author Jill Abramson

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/02/the-case-for-impeaching-clarence-thomas.html

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link

Abramson's book is the best about him.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:13 (six years ago) link

http://inthesetimes.com/features/janus_supreme_court_unions_investigation.html

Janus case gets argued Monday. Conservative Justices will use it to kill public sector unions

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 February 2018 03:43 (six years ago) link

PLEASE don't revive this thread on a Sunday night

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 February 2018 03:53 (six years ago) link

on a totally unrelated note, i wonder how i'd feel if i don't know, say, neil gorsuch died right now

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 February 2018 04:04 (six years ago) link

ambivalent. gorsuch was the number one choice of the Federalist Society. they'd just swap in the number two choice and roll on, Columbia.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 26 February 2018 05:51 (six years ago) link

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that immigrants, even those with permanent legal status and asylum seekers, do not have the right to periodic bond hearings.

It's a profound loss for those immigrants appealing what are sometimes indefinite detentions by the government. Many are held for long periods of time — on average, 13 months — after being picked up for things as minor as joyriding. Some are held even longer.

The case, Jennings v. Rodriguez, has implications for legal permanent residents the government wants to deport, because they committed crimes and asylum seekers who are awaiting a court date after turning themselves in at the border. Immigrant advocates contend that many of these immigrants have a right to be free on bail until their case is heard.

But the court wrote in its 5-3 opinion Tuesday, "Immigration officials are authorized to detain certain aliens in the course of immigration proceedings while they determine whether those aliens may be lawfully present in the country."

The majority opinion was penned by Justice Alito and joined by the court's conservatives. (Justice Kagan did not participate. She recused herself, stemming from work she had done as President Obama's solicitor general.)

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

ICE detentions are our incipient Holocaust moment and I don’t know what to do about it

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link

It's incredible disheartening and upsetting to me.
Where are these people being held? Private detention centers.
What are they doing there? Slave labor and miserable living conditions.

ian, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link

Alito's ugly arrogance in his majority decision :

Alito called the dissent an “utterly implausible” reading of the statute.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

i'm shocked by this

Court decides 5-4, with Gorsuch joining 4 liberal justices, that part of federal immigration law too vague to be enforced: https://t.co/t5iHfMtjb4

— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) April 17, 2018

bhad bhabie...you gon' hurt your bhack (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link

Seems less so when diving into the details -- his objection is in line with Scalia-like complaints about vague language in the law, etc. But as a practical effect, definitely of interest.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link

Yeah, the "unconstitutionally vague" argument is tailor-made for Scalia-alikes and should be pushed at Gorsuch as often as possible by those seeking to overturn an unjust law.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:18 (six years ago) link

Can't wait for the Trump tweets about this

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link

Breitbart ran an op-ed in support of the decision. Comment section, predictably, is not having it:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/17/pollak-gorsuchs-ruling-immigration-case-solid-conservative-originalism/

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link

This one does interest me because it really does hinge entirely on legal formalism -- you could easily make the case that it's silly to distinguish "burglary" from "crime of violence" for purposes of whether the person was "on notice" that he could be deported. Like "I only broke into someone's house" doesn't sound that compelling. Which is not to say I think he should be deported, but trying to look at this from the conservative perspective. So Gorsuch is formalistic enough to really go against what seems like a no-brainer for conservatives. Or at least wants to give the impression that he is with one of his early rulings.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:25 (six years ago) link

I thought someone had revived this thread because of (a) Sotomayor's shoulder injury (b) The Most Important Man in America had announced his retirement.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:26 (six years ago) link

love this exchange:

Larry Sparks • 12 minutes ago
Gorsuch sides with the liberals on the court. Claims burglary is not a crime of violence. Guess breaking into someone's home is not a violent act.

CLS Larry Sparks • 8 minutes ago
breaking in to my home will be responded to with a violent act that will likely make the coroner puke

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:28 (six years ago) link

Joel B. Pollak is Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart News. He was named to Forward’s 50 “most influential” Jews in 2017.

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:33 (six years ago) link

nice scare quotes

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:33 (six years ago) link

lol

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:36 (six years ago) link

It is a source of continuous bafflement to me that so many "conservatives" believe that the rights outlined in the Constitution apply only to citizens and not to persons, despite the plain language of the document itself.

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:36 (six years ago) link

but, see, it was obvious who belonged and who didn't in 1878.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

and 1787

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

who belonged and who uh belonged

valorous wokelord (silby), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link

white men with property?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link

nice one, silby

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link

but it is absolutely correct that even an originalist reading of the constitution shows that rights not specifically assigned to citizens were meant to include immigrants and even travelers present in the U.S.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 19:14 (six years ago) link

Ian Millhiser with a sharp analysis:

Broadly speaking, there are two different approaches to the law on the Supreme Court’s right flank.

Justice Samuel Alito is the consummate partisan. Unlike his other conservative colleagues, Alito has never cast the key fifth vote to throw a decision to the Court’s liberals. He’s also far more inclined to manipulate existing doctrines than to overrule them — claiming that longstanding doctrines actually require progressive laws to be read narrowly, even when such claims are the opposite of the truth. Alito tends to view each case in isolation. And, whenever possible, he presents the best arguments he can muster to gain a conservative result in each particular case.

At the other end of the spectrum is Justice Clarence Thomas. Less partisan and more ideological, Thomas is willing to push much further than Alito, and he has no compunctions about explicitly overruling major precedents. For example, under Thomas’ theory of the Constitution, child labor laws and the federal ban on whites-only lunch counters are unconstitutional. Unlike Alito, however, Thomas thinks in terms of broad principles rather than in terms of isolated efforts to move the law to the right. On rare occasions, this broader approach to the law places Thomas to the left of his fellow justices.

Which brings us to Tuesday’s decision in Sessions v. Dimaya, a 5-4 decision where Neil Gorsuch sided with the four liberals in favor of an immigrant convicted of burglary. Gorsuch’s vote, and his separate opinion in Dimaya, confirms that he is much more a Thomas than he is an Alito. He is willing to hand liberals a small victory on the path to a much larger effort to shift legal doctrines to the right

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Our contemporary elite polarization means that the center-right Courts of the last four decades will be a thing of the past as soon as Justice Kennedy leaves: The median vote of the Court will be either a conservative like John Roberts or Sam Alito, or a liberal in the mold of Elena Kagan or Ruth Bader Ginsburg. That the Court will be strongly aligned with one political faction during a time of close partisan competition is tinder that could easily fuel a constitutional crisis.

Er... seems odd not to mention the possibility of a Democratic president deliberately selecting an "inoffensive"/"uncontroversial" choice to get through a slim Democratic majority Senate. Someone like, I don't know.... Merrick Garland. Seems odd not to mention that.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:11 (six years ago) link

oops posted the last bit twice

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:11 (six years ago) link

RUTH BADER GINSBERG IS NOT VERY FAR LEFT

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:15 (six years ago) link


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